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		By: FOAF		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are right neo that it is early, we will know more in a few months, not to mention unforeseen events.  DeSantis does not seem quite as sure-footed campaigning as he has governing FL.  But it is a very tough row to hoe, opposing Trump without alienating his base.  Maybe impossible.  The rest of the candidates are in the easier space of just promoting themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right neo that it is early, we will know more in a few months, not to mention unforeseen events.  DeSantis does not seem quite as sure-footed campaigning as he has governing FL.  But it is a very tough row to hoe, opposing Trump without alienating his base.  Maybe impossible.  The rest of the candidates are in the easier space of just promoting themselves.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2023 19:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FOAF:

I&#039;ve listed some of the other things I think are going on with DeSantis.  The first is of course the Trump loyalists, who  constitute about half the party or even more.  As for the rest, I think it&#039;s a combination of these things:

(1) Propaganda from the press and from Trump loyalists about DeSantis being some sort of back-stabbing RINO.
(2) Many people are just not paying attention yet, and not really familiar with the other candidates.  I&#039;ve seen polls with a rather high &quot;undecided&quot; or &quot;don&#039;t know&quot; counts.
(3) Speaking of polls, most show Trump at around 58% or so and DeSantis at around 15%.  There are outliers, but that&#039;s the general trend on average. Everyone else is at 6% or below, with &quot;undecideds&quot; at about 8%.  So DeSantis is getting a large percentage of the non-Trump votes, and a lot of people are undecided, but Trump&#039;s lead is and always has been enormous, and it grows with every indictment. The Democrats know that and are playing on it and counting on it.
(4) People have gotten used to the excitement of Trump, and DeSantis seems dull in comparison. DeSantis is in government, and people now seem to like outsiders as well.

I really think that in a couple of months things will be more clear. But I also think that Trump is the inevitable nominee, and I believe that will guarantee Biden&#039;s re-election (or the election of whatever Democrat replaces Biden).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOAF:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve listed some of the other things I think are going on with DeSantis.  The first is of course the Trump loyalists, who  constitute about half the party or even more.  As for the rest, I think it&#8217;s a combination of these things:</p>
<p>(1) Propaganda from the press and from Trump loyalists about DeSantis being some sort of back-stabbing RINO.<br />
(2) Many people are just not paying attention yet, and not really familiar with the other candidates.  I&#8217;ve seen polls with a rather high &#8220;undecided&#8221; or &#8220;don&#8217;t know&#8221; counts.<br />
(3) Speaking of polls, most show Trump at around 58% or so and DeSantis at around 15%.  There are outliers, but that&#8217;s the general trend on average. Everyone else is at 6% or below, with &#8220;undecideds&#8221; at about 8%.  So DeSantis is getting a large percentage of the non-Trump votes, and a lot of people are undecided, but Trump&#8217;s lead is and always has been enormous, and it grows with every indictment. The Democrats know that and are playing on it and counting on it.<br />
(4) People have gotten used to the excitement of Trump, and DeSantis seems dull in comparison. DeSantis is in government, and people now seem to like outsiders as well.</p>
<p>I really think that in a couple of months things will be more clear. But I also think that Trump is the inevitable nominee, and I believe that will guarantee Biden&#8217;s re-election (or the election of whatever Democrat replaces Biden).</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2023 18:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree much with neo about Trump&#039;s efforts to belittle DeSantis.  However IF the polls are correct - a very big &quot;IF&quot; certainly - then I think RD&#039;s failure to gain traction is not due only to Trump.  While there is obviously a significant number of &quot;everTrump&quot; Republicans they never would have supported DeSantis anyway and he should have been able to make more headway with the rest.  He is certainly not lacking name recognition at this point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree much with neo about Trump&#8217;s efforts to belittle DeSantis.  However IF the polls are correct &#8211; a very big &#8220;IF&#8221; certainly &#8211; then I think RD&#8217;s failure to gain traction is not due only to Trump.  While there is obviously a significant number of &#8220;everTrump&#8221; Republicans they never would have supported DeSantis anyway and he should have been able to make more headway with the rest.  He is certainly not lacking name recognition at this point.</p>
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		By: that guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 17:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Neo

• Let&#039;s see if we can agree that you believing the headline is unfair, is not necessarily the same thing as DeSantis believing the headline is unfair ^^.

 ^^ = &quot;...have not found any examples of DeSantis claiming his Aug 7 comments about the 2020 election have been presented unfairly (e.g., his campaign site, social media).&quot;

Hope this helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neo</p>
<p>• Let&#8217;s see if we can agree that you believing the headline is unfair, is not necessarily the same thing as DeSantis believing the headline is unfair ^^.</p>
<p> ^^ = &#8220;&#8230;have not found any examples of DeSantis claiming his Aug 7 comments about the 2020 election have been presented unfairly (e.g., his campaign site, social media).&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rob:

Actually, in Florida as governor, DeSantis was especially good with hostile media.  I agree, however, that in this case his response left himself open to criticism.  He should have called her on a &quot;gotcha&quot; question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob:</p>
<p>Actually, in Florida as governor, DeSantis was especially good with hostile media.  I agree, however, that in this case his response left himself open to criticism.  He should have called her on a &#8220;gotcha&#8221; question.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that guy:

No, it is not reasonable to conclude that.  That was MY key point.  There are plenty of other explanations, which I offered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that guy:</p>
<p>No, it is not reasonable to conclude that.  That was MY key point.  There are plenty of other explanations, which I offered.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 14:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[he never said that, lets be honest about things, shall we,

instead of instructing children about reading writing and rithmetic, the borg that is the education wants to turn out baizuo &#039;snowflake&#039; zombies, I don&#039;t call them &#039;woke&#039; you have to be aware to be woke

likewise there is a straightline between what happened at charlottesville and what happened to chamberlain in boston, and lincoln&#039;s church in dc, three years later,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he never said that, lets be honest about things, shall we,</p>
<p>instead of instructing children about reading writing and rithmetic, the borg that is the education wants to turn out baizuo &#8216;snowflake&#8217; zombies, I don&#8217;t call them &#8216;woke&#8217; you have to be aware to be woke</p>
<p>likewise there is a straightline between what happened at charlottesville and what happened to chamberlain in boston, and lincoln&#8217;s church in dc, three years later,</p>
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		By: that guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I doubt that DeSantis is reading many blog comments or all the blogs on the right and then answering every distortion.&quot;

• 100% agree.

&quot;...but to say “I didn’t say that!” ends up calling more attention to the misrepresentations, not less, and opens the candidate up to accusations of flip-flopping and the like.&quot;

• 100% agree.

• It is true that Trump had done that many times - e.g., &#039;Fine People&#039; - with the result being some citizens know the truth beyond the MSM headline and some citizens do not.

• It is also true that DeSantis has done that many times - e.g., &#039;Don&#039;t Say Gay&#039; - with the same results that Trump has had.

• It is also true that Trump is widely seen as the first Republican office holder in generations to demonstrate the importance &#038; value of pushing back on the MSM headlines &#038; narrative.

&quot;DeSantis’ remarks were actually quite clear and he said exactly what he wanted to say,...&quot;

• 100% agree.

• It is true that none of the headlines generated from DeSantis&#039; recent national interview &#038; local town hall ^^ generated positive Trump headlines - even though DeSantis provided material that could have generated a positive Trump headline.

^^ = provided material in the local town hall that was 100% disingenuous and was used to generate negative Trump headlines - locally &#038; nationally.

• It is also true that DeSantis is no stranger to how the MSM &quot;reports the news&quot; (e.g., headlines generated).

• To be fair, if DeSantis did not pushback on the recent headlines it is reasonable for citizens to conclude that DeSantis is getting the headlines that he wants - which was my key point.

Hope this helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I doubt that DeSantis is reading many blog comments or all the blogs on the right and then answering every distortion.&#8221;</p>
<p>• 100% agree.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;but to say “I didn’t say that!” ends up calling more attention to the misrepresentations, not less, and opens the candidate up to accusations of flip-flopping and the like.&#8221;</p>
<p>• 100% agree.</p>
<p>• It is true that Trump had done that many times &#8211; e.g., &#8216;Fine People&#8217; &#8211; with the result being some citizens know the truth beyond the MSM headline and some citizens do not.</p>
<p>• It is also true that DeSantis has done that many times &#8211; e.g., &#8216;Don&#8217;t Say Gay&#8217; &#8211; with the same results that Trump has had.</p>
<p>• It is also true that Trump is widely seen as the first Republican office holder in generations to demonstrate the importance &amp; value of pushing back on the MSM headlines &amp; narrative.</p>
<p>&#8220;DeSantis’ remarks were actually quite clear and he said exactly what he wanted to say,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>• 100% agree.</p>
<p>• It is true that none of the headlines generated from DeSantis&#8217; recent national interview &amp; local town hall ^^ generated positive Trump headlines &#8211; even though DeSantis provided material that could have generated a positive Trump headline.</p>
<p>^^ = provided material in the local town hall that was 100% disingenuous and was used to generate negative Trump headlines &#8211; locally &amp; nationally.</p>
<p>• It is also true that DeSantis is no stranger to how the MSM &#8220;reports the news&#8221; (e.g., headlines generated).</p>
<p>• To be fair, if DeSantis did not pushback on the recent headlines it is reasonable for citizens to conclude that DeSantis is getting the headlines that he wants &#8211; which was my key point.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[desantis has had a good learning curve, but it took him a while to see through the tripwire that fauci and the tech companies had rigged, all the parties involved in that 2019 wargame, along with outside players like ftx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>desantis has had a good learning curve, but it took him a while to see through the tripwire that fauci and the tech companies had rigged, all the parties involved in that 2019 wargame, along with outside players like ftx</p>
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		By: Wendy Bar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy Bar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2023 12:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;My Other Brother, who believes the narrative about Jan 6. Yet he is fairly conservative and hates Biden, but will not vote for Trump again.&quot;

He deserves Joe Biden as President...especially since he believes all the propaganda the left and the GOPe put out about January 6th.  Watch the Tucker interview with ex Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund.  It will blow your mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My Other Brother, who believes the narrative about Jan 6. Yet he is fairly conservative and hates Biden, but will not vote for Trump again.&#8221;</p>
<p>He deserves Joe Biden as President&#8230;especially since he believes all the propaganda the left and the GOPe put out about January 6th.  Watch the Tucker interview with ex Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund.  It will blow your mind.</p>
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