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	Comments on: Melanie Phillips writes about what&#8217;s going on in Israel with Ehud Barak	</title>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And perhaps Barak was just looking for funding for his liberal, political party from Epstein. Or repaying a debt to help out Epstein.&lt;/i&gt;
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Barak formed the Israel Democratic Party just two weeks before Epstein was clapped in jail for the last time.  That wasn&#039;t the reason.
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If Barak did meet with Epstein 20x, that is ... inneresting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And perhaps Barak was just looking for funding for his liberal, political party from Epstein. Or repaying a debt to help out Epstein.</i><br />
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Barak formed the Israel Democratic Party just two weeks before Epstein was clapped in jail for the last time.  That wasn&#8217;t the reason.<br />
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If Barak did meet with Epstein 20x, that is &#8230; inneresting.</p>
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		By: CultivatingMan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2023 16:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing that is interesting is that such deep societal divisions have opened up in 3 stalwarts of the West. 
Whose next and what is the reason for such &quot;coincidental&quot; timing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is interesting is that such deep societal divisions have opened up in 3 stalwarts of the West.<br />
Whose next and what is the reason for such &#8220;coincidental&#8221; timing?</p>
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		By: Eeyore		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 09:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ on July 31, 2023 at 11:30 pm said:
Personal bravery and military aptitude don’t necessarily translate to conservative or even moderate politics. The myth of an egalitarian society can be believed by heroes and villains alike.
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Exactly. It&#039;s an error to think that if someone is admirable in some way(s), it follows that he is in others. I think this has something to do with the desire to stick up for artists and athletes.

I have a friend who likes to point out that, had Benedict Arnold died of his wounds at Saratoga, there&#039;d be high schools all over America named after him. And had Petain died in 1939, the same would be true in France.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ on July 31, 2023 at 11:30 pm said:<br />
Personal bravery and military aptitude don’t necessarily translate to conservative or even moderate politics. The myth of an egalitarian society can be believed by heroes and villains alike.<br />
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<p>Exactly. It&#8217;s an error to think that if someone is admirable in some way(s), it follows that he is in others. I think this has something to do with the desire to stick up for artists and athletes.</p>
<p>I have a friend who likes to point out that, had Benedict Arnold died of his wounds at Saratoga, there&#8217;d be high schools all over America named after him. And had Petain died in 1939, the same would be true in France.</p>
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		By: Ray SoCa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray SoCa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 05:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo - My gut feeling is Epstein’s foibles with an underage harem were used as a honey pot for at least one Intel agency. The recording, and how those have disappeared, are very suspicious.

The innocent explanation is Epstein just had a kinky habits of recording powerful guests, and the FBI protected innocent blackmailed parties by slow walking warrants to get the recordings.

And perhaps Barak was just looking for funding for his liberal, political party from Epstein. Or repaying a debt to help out Epstein.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo &#8211; My gut feeling is Epstein’s foibles with an underage harem were used as a honey pot for at least one Intel agency. The recording, and how those have disappeared, are very suspicious.</p>
<p>The innocent explanation is Epstein just had a kinky habits of recording powerful guests, and the FBI protected innocent blackmailed parties by slow walking warrants to get the recordings.</p>
<p>And perhaps Barak was just looking for funding for his liberal, political party from Epstein. Or repaying a debt to help out Epstein.</p>
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		By: Paul Nachman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Nachman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 04:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can attest that Netanyahu&#039;s superb autobiography &lt;b&gt;Bibi&lt;/b&gt; contains some poison pen for Barak.  Here&#039;s how Andrew Roberts characterized it in the &lt;b&gt;Claremont Review of Books&lt;/b&gt;, https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-churchill-of-the-middle-east/:

&lt;i&gt;Although there are excellent pen portraits of Yitzhak Rabin, Ariel Sharon, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Shamir, and several other Israeli politicians, Ehud Barak will not be happy with the way he is portrayed in relation to the Sabena operation at Lod Airport, as “a bystander. His only role in storming the plane was standing on the tarmac and blowing a whistle. Four of his decorations were given not for leadership under fire but for intelligence gathering operations.” Ouch!&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can attest that Netanyahu&#8217;s superb autobiography <b>Bibi</b> contains some poison pen for Barak.  Here&#8217;s how Andrew Roberts characterized it in the <b>Claremont Review of Books</b>, <a href="https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-churchill-of-the-middle-east/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-churchill-of-the-middle-east/</a>:</p>
<p><i>Although there are excellent pen portraits of Yitzhak Rabin, Ariel Sharon, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Shamir, and several other Israeli politicians, Ehud Barak will not be happy with the way he is portrayed in relation to the Sabena operation at Lod Airport, as “a bystander. His only role in storming the plane was standing on the tarmac and blowing a whistle. Four of his decorations were given not for leadership under fire but for intelligence gathering operations.” Ouch!</i></p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 03:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personal bravery and military aptitude don&#039;t necessarily translate to conservative or even moderate politics.  The myth of an egalitarian society can be believed by heroes and villains alike. 

Bibi certainly seems to draw the hatred of lefties. Much like Trump does here.  It&#039;s a terrible thing for both countries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal bravery and military aptitude don&#8217;t necessarily translate to conservative or even moderate politics.  The myth of an egalitarian society can be believed by heroes and villains alike. </p>
<p>Bibi certainly seems to draw the hatred of lefties. Much like Trump does here.  It&#8217;s a terrible thing for both countries.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 01:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Barak, Barack, Barack, Barak
Let&#039;s call the whole thing off!

--apologies to George Gershwin&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Barak, Barack, Barack, Barak<br />
Let&#8217;s call the whole thing off!</p>
<p>&#8211;apologies to George Gershwin</i></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 00:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ray SoCa:

One thing it&#039;s important to understand - whether about Barak or tons of other people left of center - is that Epstein was a rich guy who donated a lot of money to liberal and leftist causes.  Many people who met with him had relationships with him that had to do with that.  As for the sex stuff, we certainly know Epstein was guilty, and a few other people have been implicated (falsely or correctly) by some of the women, but it is almost certainly the case that a great many people connected with Epstein were not part of that.  What the percentages are is anyone&#039;s guess.  The rumor mill flies. But I see no particular reason to think that the majority were doing the sex stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray SoCa:</p>
<p>One thing it&#8217;s important to understand &#8211; whether about Barak or tons of other people left of center &#8211; is that Epstein was a rich guy who donated a lot of money to liberal and leftist causes.  Many people who met with him had relationships with him that had to do with that.  As for the sex stuff, we certainly know Epstein was guilty, and a few other people have been implicated (falsely or correctly) by some of the women, but it is almost certainly the case that a great many people connected with Epstein were not part of that.  What the percentages are is anyone&#8217;s guess.  The rumor mill flies. But I see no particular reason to think that the majority were doing the sex stuff.</p>
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		By: Ray SoCa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray SoCa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 23:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow - Barak met Epstein 30 times.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; Barak met Epstein 30 times.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.timesofisrael.com/ehud-barak-met-with-jeffrey-epstein-dozens-of-times-flew-on-private-plane-report/</a></p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2023 22:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[if memory serves, he was bibi&#039;s boss at sayaret metkal, the israeli special forces unit, he was also strongly tied to epstein in the last few years,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if memory serves, he was bibi&#8217;s boss at sayaret metkal, the israeli special forces unit, he was also strongly tied to epstein in the last few years,</p>
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