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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690729</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690726</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aggie...&quot;The answer will always be money. Only one money-man has been willing to pony up so far, and that’s Elon Musk. And he did it in the name of Free Speech, not politics&quot;

Which is why everyone who believes in free speech needs to sign up for twitter, if they haven&#039;t already.  Yeah, one account doesn&#039;t matter much in the scheme of things, but neither does one vote or one $50 political contribution.

A lot of people seem reluctant to joint Twitter...not sure what they&#039;re afraid of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aggie&#8230;&#8221;The answer will always be money. Only one money-man has been willing to pony up so far, and that’s Elon Musk. And he did it in the name of Free Speech, not politics&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is why everyone who believes in free speech needs to sign up for twitter, if they haven&#8217;t already.  Yeah, one account doesn&#8217;t matter much in the scheme of things, but neither does one vote or one $50 political contribution.</p>
<p>A lot of people seem reluctant to joint Twitter&#8230;not sure what they&#8217;re afraid of.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 13:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[cully stimson is someone I don&#039;t have a jaundiced view of, they literally tried to disbar him for handling those innocent shepherds at gitmo, yes hes the grandson of that stimson, whose career went back to the rough riders,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cully stimson is someone I don&#8217;t have a jaundiced view of, they literally tried to disbar him for handling those innocent shepherds at gitmo, yes hes the grandson of that stimson, whose career went back to the rough riders,</p>
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		By: Cavendish		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cavendish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 12:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Impeachment - specifically, of Biden - is important because it could demonstrate, first, that standards exist and second, that adherence to those standards is crucial to maintaining a functioning Constitutionally-based Republic. As in, &quot;do the citizens control the government, as the Constitution specifies, or does the government control the citizens, in defiance of Constitutional restrictions.&quot;

The alternative is destructon of a functional republic and, probably, some degree of armed civil conflict. (As to when such confict might arise I have no idea whatsoever, nor any idea of its scope should it occur, but circumstances would raise the possibility from &quot;nearly zero&quot; to &quot;probably, at some point.&quot; It would seem reasonable to take measures to avoid that.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeachment &#8211; specifically, of Biden &#8211; is important because it could demonstrate, first, that standards exist and second, that adherence to those standards is crucial to maintaining a functioning Constitutionally-based Republic. As in, &#8220;do the citizens control the government, as the Constitution specifies, or does the government control the citizens, in defiance of Constitutional restrictions.&#8221;</p>
<p>The alternative is destructon of a functional republic and, probably, some degree of armed civil conflict. (As to when such confict might arise I have no idea whatsoever, nor any idea of its scope should it occur, but circumstances would raise the possibility from &#8220;nearly zero&#8221; to &#8220;probably, at some point.&#8221; It would seem reasonable to take measures to avoid that.)</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690663</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 03:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dick Illyes on July 26, 2023 at 7:09 am said:
Surely there must be experienced prosecutors in the GOP who can handle this.

Good point.  Perhaps Chris Christie, Trey Gowdy, or Cully Stimson (see  this Heritage interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRt6HuX9TAg   ) ??

Although now I see that miguel cervantes on July 26, 2023 at 9:38 am 
has a much lower opinion of Growdy.  Any other candidates? Perhaps someone with a lower national exposure??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Illyes on July 26, 2023 at 7:09 am said:<br />
Surely there must be experienced prosecutors in the GOP who can handle this.</p>
<p>Good point.  Perhaps Chris Christie, Trey Gowdy, or Cully Stimson (see  this Heritage interview: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRt6HuX9TAg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRt6HuX9TAg</a>   ) ??</p>
<p>Although now I see that miguel cervantes on July 26, 2023 at 9:38 am<br />
has a much lower opinion of Growdy.  Any other candidates? Perhaps someone with a lower national exposure??</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690654</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Impeachment = Dems way forward?  &quot;Is There a Turtle-Race Existing For Joe Biden To Be Impeached?&quot;

http://ripleyporch.blogspot.com/2023/07/is-there-turtle-race-existing-for-joe.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeachment = Dems way forward?  &#8220;Is There a Turtle-Race Existing For Joe Biden To Be Impeached?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://ripleyporch.blogspot.com/2023/07/is-there-turtle-race-existing-for-joe.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ripleyporch.blogspot.com/2023/07/is-there-turtle-race-existing-for-joe.html</a></p>
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		By: AMartel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690624</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AMartel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would certainly be great for cable news ratings and giving legislators and candidates an opportunity to claim they&#039;re &quot;doing something&quot; (even though they&#039;re not)!  And it would relieve the Dems of a massive embarrassment/political liability and allow them to replace that with some less well known failure/disaster they can all get behind, all while blaming the Republicans for &quot;interfering,&quot; &quot;seizing,&quot; &quot;pouncing,&quot; &quot;lying,&quot; etc.  AND (bonus points), it would &quot;justify&quot; and/or at least nominally balance the shenanigans against Trump since &quot;everyone does it.&quot;  Basically, it would take up time and focus so everyone can pay less attention to the broken election system and pretend to be all outraged when another Dem gets elected with more people voting than currently exist on the planet.
So, no thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would certainly be great for cable news ratings and giving legislators and candidates an opportunity to claim they&#8217;re &#8220;doing something&#8221; (even though they&#8217;re not)!  And it would relieve the Dems of a massive embarrassment/political liability and allow them to replace that with some less well known failure/disaster they can all get behind, all while blaming the Republicans for &#8220;interfering,&#8221; &#8220;seizing,&#8221; &#8220;pouncing,&#8221; &#8220;lying,&#8221; etc.  AND (bonus points), it would &#8220;justify&#8221; and/or at least nominally balance the shenanigans against Trump since &#8220;everyone does it.&#8221;  Basically, it would take up time and focus so everyone can pay less attention to the broken election system and pretend to be all outraged when another Dem gets elected with more people voting than currently exist on the planet.<br />
So, no thanks!</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690589</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re Insufficiently sensitive - Maybe.

But consider the alternatives. It could get worse.

For example, the fairly brilliant Video-blogger 22 year old Rudyard Lynch argues that an American version of the French Revolution is inevitable.
https://youtu.be/2yuZp5JX2mI]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Insufficiently sensitive &#8211; Maybe.</p>
<p>But consider the alternatives. It could get worse.</p>
<p>For example, the fairly brilliant Video-blogger 22 year old Rudyard Lynch argues that an American version of the French Revolution is inevitable.<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/2yuZp5JX2mI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/2yuZp5JX2mI</a></p>
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		By: Insufficiently Sensitive		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Insufficiently Sensitive]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 17:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I FAVOR SUMMARY CITIZEN TRIALS of the lying and corrupt for treason and violating their Oaths of Office, followed by gallows on the National Mall,&lt;/i&gt;

Great definition of a lynch mob, but to achieve &#039;governance&#039; requires a lot more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I FAVOR SUMMARY CITIZEN TRIALS of the lying and corrupt for treason and violating their Oaths of Office, followed by gallows on the National Mall,</i></p>
<p>Great definition of a lynch mob, but to achieve &#8216;governance&#8217; requires a lot more.</p>
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		By: Cornflour		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/25/the-case-for-a-biden-impeachment/#comment-2690558</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornflour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Claude&quot; (https://claude.ai/login) is a new LLM (large language model) AI (artificial intelligence) assistant.  A free beta version is currently available.  I&#039;ve just started testing it; but, so far, I like it better than ChatGPT.

For me, two features have made it worth a look:

1.  It&#039;s open to the internet, so it can write responses based on recent information.

2.  Users can attach large files and ask for a response to them.

As an example, I saved Margot Cleveland&#039;s article as a file, then attached it to Claude. 
_________________________________________________________

Here&#039;s the first request that I made:

Write a brief response to the attached file. Response should be from the point of view of a Trump supporter.

And here&#039;s the response from Claude:

Here is a potential response from the perspective of a Trump supporter:

This article lays out exactly why President Trump was right all along about the Biden crime family. The evidence of Joe Biden&#039;s corruption is overwhelming and undeniable. He clearly leveraged his position as Vice President to enrich his family through shady deals with Ukraine. The fact that the DOJ and FBI covered this up shows they are just deep state cronies trying to protect Biden.
 
Now we have brave whistleblowers coming forward to expose the truth that real patriots at the FBI tried to investigate Biden but were blocked at every turn. Trump was unjustly persecuted over fake Russia collusion lies while the FBI gives Biden a free pass on actual high crimes. It&#039;s a disgraceful double standard.

The time has come for Biden to be impeached to hold him accountable. But we can&#039;t trust the corrupt DOJ and FBI to handle any part of this investigation. Anything short of a full impeachment inquiry led by Republicans in Congress will be just another Deep State whitewash.

President Trump endured endless investigations over nothing. Now it&#039;s Biden&#039;s turn to face the music over his obvious Ukraine bribery scheme and the government cover-up. Justice demands we impeach Biden now before the truth is buried again. Trump supporters will accept nothing less.
___________________________________________________________

Here&#039;s the second request that I made:

Write a brief rational response to the attached file.

And here&#039;s the response from Claude:

I do not have enough information to determine if the claims in the article warrant starting impeachment proceedings against President Biden. However, I can make a few points:

The article alleges corruption and impropriety by President Biden based on some whistleblower accounts and reporting around Hunter Biden&#039;s business dealings. However, the details are still emerging and need to be fully investigated before conclusions can be drawn.

Impeachment is an extremely serious process that should have bipartisan support and clear evidence of &quot;high crimes and misdemeanors.&quot; It should not be undertaken lightly based only on partisan accusations.

Oversight and investigation by Congress is reasonable and appropriate. However, launching a full impeachment inquiry is premature without solid evidence of impeachable offenses by President Biden himself.

Trust in institutions like the DOJ and FBI is important, but they should also be held accountable. If evidence emerges of impropriety, it should be addressed. But that has not been clearly established yet.

More fact-finding is needed before such serious steps as impeachment are considered. This should be done in a non-partisan way focusing on the truth, not political motives.

In summary, these are serious allegations but they require serious, careful investigation before jumping to impeachment. Oversight is reasonable but a measured, bipartisan approach based on facts is vital.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Claude&#8221; (<a href="https://claude.ai/login" rel="nofollow ugc">https://claude.ai/login</a>) is a new LLM (large language model) AI (artificial intelligence) assistant.  A free beta version is currently available.  I&#8217;ve just started testing it; but, so far, I like it better than ChatGPT.</p>
<p>For me, two features have made it worth a look:</p>
<p>1.  It&#8217;s open to the internet, so it can write responses based on recent information.</p>
<p>2.  Users can attach large files and ask for a response to them.</p>
<p>As an example, I saved Margot Cleveland&#8217;s article as a file, then attached it to Claude.<br />
_________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the first request that I made:</p>
<p>Write a brief response to the attached file. Response should be from the point of view of a Trump supporter.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the response from Claude:</p>
<p>Here is a potential response from the perspective of a Trump supporter:</p>
<p>This article lays out exactly why President Trump was right all along about the Biden crime family. The evidence of Joe Biden&#8217;s corruption is overwhelming and undeniable. He clearly leveraged his position as Vice President to enrich his family through shady deals with Ukraine. The fact that the DOJ and FBI covered this up shows they are just deep state cronies trying to protect Biden.</p>
<p>Now we have brave whistleblowers coming forward to expose the truth that real patriots at the FBI tried to investigate Biden but were blocked at every turn. Trump was unjustly persecuted over fake Russia collusion lies while the FBI gives Biden a free pass on actual high crimes. It&#8217;s a disgraceful double standard.</p>
<p>The time has come for Biden to be impeached to hold him accountable. But we can&#8217;t trust the corrupt DOJ and FBI to handle any part of this investigation. Anything short of a full impeachment inquiry led by Republicans in Congress will be just another Deep State whitewash.</p>
<p>President Trump endured endless investigations over nothing. Now it&#8217;s Biden&#8217;s turn to face the music over his obvious Ukraine bribery scheme and the government cover-up. Justice demands we impeach Biden now before the truth is buried again. Trump supporters will accept nothing less.<br />
___________________________________________________________</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the second request that I made:</p>
<p>Write a brief rational response to the attached file.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the response from Claude:</p>
<p>I do not have enough information to determine if the claims in the article warrant starting impeachment proceedings against President Biden. However, I can make a few points:</p>
<p>The article alleges corruption and impropriety by President Biden based on some whistleblower accounts and reporting around Hunter Biden&#8217;s business dealings. However, the details are still emerging and need to be fully investigated before conclusions can be drawn.</p>
<p>Impeachment is an extremely serious process that should have bipartisan support and clear evidence of &#8220;high crimes and misdemeanors.&#8221; It should not be undertaken lightly based only on partisan accusations.</p>
<p>Oversight and investigation by Congress is reasonable and appropriate. However, launching a full impeachment inquiry is premature without solid evidence of impeachable offenses by President Biden himself.</p>
<p>Trust in institutions like the DOJ and FBI is important, but they should also be held accountable. If evidence emerges of impropriety, it should be addressed. But that has not been clearly established yet.</p>
<p>More fact-finding is needed before such serious steps as impeachment are considered. This should be done in a non-partisan way focusing on the truth, not political motives.</p>
<p>In summary, these are serious allegations but they require serious, careful investigation before jumping to impeachment. Oversight is reasonable but a measured, bipartisan approach based on facts is vital.</p>
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