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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[he is foremost an islamist, his influence is largely do his schoolmate blinken, 

btw victoria nuland is moving up to replace wendy sherman,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he is foremost an islamist, his influence is largely do his schoolmate blinken, </p>
<p>btw victoria nuland is moving up to replace wendy sherman,</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2023 22:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael Garfinkel:

Why do you care whether Malley is Jewish?  Why not instead write: &quot;Robert Malley is an &#039;elite&#039; &lt;i&gt;leftist&lt;/i&gt;, marinated since birth in the Marxist class struggle.&quot;

Malley was raised by activist leftists, especially his father. I doubt very much he had much if any exposure to Judaism, the religion.  Why harp on his &lt;i&gt;Jewishness&lt;/i&gt;, then?  &lt;a href=&quot;https://jewishcurrents.org/an-anti-imperialist-father-and-his-american-diplomat-son&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s more about&lt;/a&gt; Malley&#039;s father, part of a speech delivered by Robert Malley himself in 2008. The author of the intro to the speech seems to be a Robert Malley fan, by the way:

&lt;blockquote&gt;THE ONE THING we know for sure is that he was born in Cairo. He left us with few other certainties. His parents appear to have originally hailed from Aleppo, moving to Egypt at the turn of the last century. There is good reason to believe he was born in the 1920s, though as for the precise year or day, one could trust either one’s imagination or his word—the former often proving more reliable than the latter. His old Egyptian passport indicates a birth date of May 25th, 1923, but he had more than one—passports as well as birthdays. 

He also was Jewish, though the principal effect of his Judaism seems to have been that it provided him added reason to be an Arab nationalist of the fiercely secular, anti-Zionist sort. His life choices were dictated, one senses, by restrictions he faced as a Jew born in an Arab land. He embraced a strong Arab nationalistic worldview and I can’t recall him ever evincing much understanding for or even desire to understand Israelis and their state. He moved to America, but had no patience for the US either, whose foreign policy he denounced with relish and sometimes abandon. Once he’d had enough, he moved his entire family to France; his writings managed to so offend its then-president that, some 11 years later, he was forcefully expelled and put on a plane back to the US, from where he flew directly to Geneva, never even stepping out of Kennedy airport. In the interim, he had turned his back on his homeland as well, breaking his emotional ties with Egypt the moment Egypt had forged its political ties with Israel...

...[M]y father—for, if you had not already guessed, that’s who this is about—felt overly cramped and confined in the life he was given. And so, he just gave himself another, and another, and yet another. During the course of his eight decades, he took on at a minimum three different names...

And he acquired no less than nine different citizenships—including Egyptian, American, Algerian, Tunisian, Angolan, Mozambican, French and an honorary Palestinian one...

My father was, dare I say, an awakened Arab or one who, at a minimum, awoke in me an interest in his part of the world. He’s not the only one who shaped me, my approach to the Middle East and my early encounter with the Arab world, of course. But both in terms of where I started out and the distance I have since traveled, my father looms largest. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So if Malley got any Jewish education, it was an education in hating Israel. His father clearly identified strongly with Israel&#039;s enemies, and as an Arab.  Robert Malley apparently was indeed Jewish by birth, but the atmosphere in which he was raised had virtually nothing Jewish about it.  The entire talk of Robert Malley&#039;s is very interesting; I suggest reading it.  As awful as he has been in connection with the negotiations with Iran in the years after that speech, he seems practically an American patriot compared to his father.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Garfinkel:</p>
<p>Why do you care whether Malley is Jewish?  Why not instead write: &#8220;Robert Malley is an &#8216;elite&#8217; <i>leftist</i>, marinated since birth in the Marxist class struggle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Malley was raised by activist leftists, especially his father. I doubt very much he had much if any exposure to Judaism, the religion.  Why harp on his <i>Jewishness</i>, then?  <a href="https://jewishcurrents.org/an-anti-imperialist-father-and-his-american-diplomat-son" rel="nofollow ugc">Here&#8217;s more about</a> Malley&#8217;s father, part of a speech delivered by Robert Malley himself in 2008. The author of the intro to the speech seems to be a Robert Malley fan, by the way:</p>
<blockquote><p>THE ONE THING we know for sure is that he was born in Cairo. He left us with few other certainties. His parents appear to have originally hailed from Aleppo, moving to Egypt at the turn of the last century. There is good reason to believe he was born in the 1920s, though as for the precise year or day, one could trust either one’s imagination or his word—the former often proving more reliable than the latter. His old Egyptian passport indicates a birth date of May 25th, 1923, but he had more than one—passports as well as birthdays. </p>
<p>He also was Jewish, though the principal effect of his Judaism seems to have been that it provided him added reason to be an Arab nationalist of the fiercely secular, anti-Zionist sort. His life choices were dictated, one senses, by restrictions he faced as a Jew born in an Arab land. He embraced a strong Arab nationalistic worldview and I can’t recall him ever evincing much understanding for or even desire to understand Israelis and their state. He moved to America, but had no patience for the US either, whose foreign policy he denounced with relish and sometimes abandon. Once he’d had enough, he moved his entire family to France; his writings managed to so offend its then-president that, some 11 years later, he was forcefully expelled and put on a plane back to the US, from where he flew directly to Geneva, never even stepping out of Kennedy airport. In the interim, he had turned his back on his homeland as well, breaking his emotional ties with Egypt the moment Egypt had forged its political ties with Israel&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;[M]y father—for, if you had not already guessed, that’s who this is about—felt overly cramped and confined in the life he was given. And so, he just gave himself another, and another, and yet another. During the course of his eight decades, he took on at a minimum three different names&#8230;</p>
<p>And he acquired no less than nine different citizenships—including Egyptian, American, Algerian, Tunisian, Angolan, Mozambican, French and an honorary Palestinian one&#8230;</p>
<p>My father was, dare I say, an awakened Arab or one who, at a minimum, awoke in me an interest in his part of the world. He’s not the only one who shaped me, my approach to the Middle East and my early encounter with the Arab world, of course. But both in terms of where I started out and the distance I have since traveled, my father looms largest. </p></blockquote>
<p>So if Malley got any Jewish education, it was an education in hating Israel. His father clearly identified strongly with Israel&#8217;s enemies, and as an Arab.  Robert Malley apparently was indeed Jewish by birth, but the atmosphere in which he was raised had virtually nothing Jewish about it.  The entire talk of Robert Malley&#8217;s is very interesting; I suggest reading it.  As awful as he has been in connection with the negotiations with Iran in the years after that speech, he seems practically an American patriot compared to his father.</p>
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		By: Michael Garfinkel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Garfinkel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2023 20:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert Malley is an &quot;elite&quot; Jew, marinated since birth in the Marxist class struggle.

As such, he was the perfect diplomatic instrument for Obama, who used him to cozy up to the Mullahs and fashion the 2015 Iran nuclear &quot;deal.&quot;

Brought back by Biden and surrounded by Iranian colleagues, it appears that someone has finally taken notice of Malley&#039;s methods.

The term &quot;treason&quot; has been used, hesitantly - but everything about Malley suggests just that.

Which begs the question - how deep does the rot go?

That is the same question, incidentally, that is being asked about the entire Biden enterprise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Malley is an &#8220;elite&#8221; Jew, marinated since birth in the Marxist class struggle.</p>
<p>As such, he was the perfect diplomatic instrument for Obama, who used him to cozy up to the Mullahs and fashion the 2015 Iran nuclear &#8220;deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brought back by Biden and surrounded by Iranian colleagues, it appears that someone has finally taken notice of Malley&#8217;s methods.</p>
<p>The term &#8220;treason&#8221; has been used, hesitantly &#8211; but everything about Malley suggests just that.</p>
<p>Which begs the question &#8211; how deep does the rot go?</p>
<p>That is the same question, incidentally, that is being asked about the entire Biden enterprise.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Malley Mali Milley, lets call the whole thing off]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malley Mali Milley, lets call the whole thing off</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Barry &#062; &quot;You say “to Mali”, I say “to Malley”.&quot;

Curiously, Mali made it to the news, in connection with national security.
Or insecurity, as seems more common these days.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/us-defence-emails-with-mil-suffix-going-to-mali/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barry &gt; &#8220;You say “to Mali”, I say “to Malley”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Curiously, Mali made it to the news, in connection with national security.<br />
Or insecurity, as seems more common these days.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/us-defence-emails-with-mil-suffix-going-to-mali/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/us-defence-emails-with-mil-suffix-going-to-mali/</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 07:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You say &quot;to Mali&quot;, I say &quot;to Malley&quot;. 
Let&#039;s call the whole thing off...

This idea of Malley being put out to pasture is nothing other than a red herring, camouflage, a coverup---probably to distract us from any upcoming Iran &quot;Deal&quot; (or Iran &quot;Non-Deal&quot;---there can&#039;t be any REAL difference between the two...since Iran has been given the TIME and the MONEY, by you know who, to do essentially what it wants...with Putin riding shotgun and providing &quot;Biden&quot; with an &quot;invisibility cloak&quot;).

Malley has done his work---haven been given the time and the authority to do it---and he&#039;s done it exceeding well.
IOW, Malley is &quot;Biden&quot;, i.e., one of &quot;his&quot; many destructive persona, facets, AGENTS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;to Mali&#8221;, I say &#8220;to Malley&#8221;.<br />
Let&#8217;s call the whole thing off&#8230;</p>
<p>This idea of Malley being put out to pasture is nothing other than a red herring, camouflage, a coverup&#8212;probably to distract us from any upcoming Iran &#8220;Deal&#8221; (or Iran &#8220;Non-Deal&#8221;&#8212;there can&#8217;t be any REAL difference between the two&#8230;since Iran has been given the TIME and the MONEY, by you know who, to do essentially what it wants&#8230;with Putin riding shotgun and providing &#8220;Biden&#8221; with an &#8220;invisibility cloak&#8221;).</p>
<p>Malley has done his work&#8212;haven been given the time and the authority to do it&#8212;and he&#8217;s done it exceeding well.<br />
IOW, Malley is &#8220;Biden&#8221;, i.e., one of &#8220;his&#8221; many destructive persona, facets, AGENTS.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 22:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[how can this not be enemy action,

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/us-defence-emails-with-mil-suffix-going-to-mali/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can this not be enemy action,</p>
<p><a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/us-defence-emails-with-mil-suffix-going-to-mali/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/07/17/us-defence-emails-with-mil-suffix-going-to-mali/</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick:

I&#039;m well aware of that. But that&#039;s obviously not what I&#039;m asking here.  I&#039;m asking about what Fullmoon wrote on the specific subject of Malley.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m well aware of that. But that&#8217;s obviously not what I&#8217;m asking here.  I&#8217;m asking about what Fullmoon wrote on the specific subject of Malley.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 22:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not just the House either. McConnell nuked the Republican filibuster on the debt ceiling in 2021, again with the help of Democrats.

It&#039;s not enough to have people who have &quot;R&quot; as their party label, they actually have to be people willing to use the power they have to do the right thing, or we&#039;re just going to continue to get rolled. I don&#039;t know, maybe after another 50 years of it we can catch on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just the House either. McConnell nuked the Republican filibuster on the debt ceiling in 2021, again with the help of Democrats.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough to have people who have &#8220;R&#8221; as their party label, they actually have to be people willing to use the power they have to do the right thing, or we&#8217;re just going to continue to get rolled. I don&#8217;t know, maybe after another 50 years of it we can catch on.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 21:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@neo:&lt;i&gt;Do you actually believe they have the power to do more?&lt;/i&gt;

They did with the debt ceiling, $200 billion per week&#039;s worth of leverage, which they gave up for nothing. The debt limit is in effect a House veto on all additional spending, which McCarthy recruited lots and lots of Democrats to renounce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neo:<i>Do you actually believe they have the power to do more?</i></p>
<p>They did with the debt ceiling, $200 billion per week&#8217;s worth of leverage, which they gave up for nothing. The debt limit is in effect a House veto on all additional spending, which McCarthy recruited lots and lots of Democrats to renounce.</p>
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