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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ronald Kessler broke both the Colombia and the skinny dipping stories.  At 79, he&#039;s probably not that active now, and his sources have probably dried up with all the personnel changes in the Secret Service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Kessler broke both the Colombia and the skinny dipping stories.  At 79, he&#8217;s probably not that active now, and his sources have probably dried up with all the personnel changes in the Secret Service.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2023 05:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Kate &#062; &quot;Is Donald Trump actually safe with these people protecting him?&quot;

Several things make this current story interesting to me:
(1) Some of the people who guarded Biden in the past were willing to reveal how obnoxious he was (the Clintons were also not favorites with the troops).
(2) Trump kept his own security guards after inauguration, although I&#039;m not sure for how long; I think he has private security now in addition to his SS detail but couldn&#039;t find a reference.
(3) Trump&#039;s SS detail liked him, at least according to a left-leaning writer.
(4) Biden replaced the head of the SS and the members of his detail shortly after taking office; not unusual, but it means there is a &quot;loyalty&quot; factor in the cocaine caper cover-up.
(5) Trump&#039;s situation now has &quot;competing&quot; SS groups in action.

I&#039;m really seeing the makings of a great political movie plot here.

References: 
BIDEN (1) from 2014
https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/female-secret-service-agents-find-joe-biden-s-skinny-dipping-habit-offensive-114080200706_1.html

(4) https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/biden-secret-service-kimberly-cheatle-00053638
&quot;President Joe Biden has appointed Kimberly Cheatle to be the next director of the Secret Service. ... Biden “came to trust her judgment and counsel” when she was on his security detail as vice president, he said in his statement. In 2021, Biden awarded her a Presidential Rank Award,&quot;

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/joe-biden-secret-service/index.html
&quot;The US Secret Service has been planning to bring back to the White House a group of agents that previously worked with President-elect Joe Biden when he was vice president to fill out his security detail, a law enforcement source confirmed to CNN....
The staffing changes, first reported by The Washington Post, also come amid concern from Biden allies about the political loyalty of some current agents to Trump, two people familiar with the situation told the newspaper....
A former Secret Service executive told the Post the staffing changes were a “smart” decision in order to “give the incoming president the comfort of the familiar.”...“You want him to be with people he knows and trusts, and who also know how he operates,” the person said.&quot;



TRUMP (2) https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/07/politics/secret-service-director-trump/index.html
US Secret Service Director Joseph Clancy wants to set the record straight about President-elect Donald Trump’s private security team and whether it’s causing conflict with his agents....he wanted to push back against suggestions that there were conflicts between the Secret Service and the private security team that’s protected Trump for years....“There is no friction at all” with Trump’s private team, insisted Clancy, who said his agency has “sole responsibility” for protecting the President and the first family. He added that there is no overlap between the private team and his agency....He explained that while Trump’s private team is there to ensure public events run smoothly and there are no disruptions from the crowd, Secret Service agents are the only ones protecting the President-elect.&quot;

(3) https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-secret-service-detail-cheered-capitol-riot-author-2022-6?op=1

(Caveat: that was written by Carol Leonnig, whose veracity is questioned in this post, which gives more context on her reporting about SS activities under Obama, Trump, and Biden; it&#039;s an account of deliberate bias in leftist reporting)
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/24/the-real-story-of-trumps-secret-service/

(5) https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-secret-service-former-presidents-1.6808177
&quot;The legal woes of Donald Trump have cast a new light on the role of those federal agents assigned to protect him and other former presidents for the rest of their lives: the U.S. Secret Service.
There they were, accompanying the 45th president as he made his way into a Manhattan courthouse earlier this month to be fingerprinted and arraigned on 34 felony counts.
Meanwhile, current and former officers assigned to Trump are part of another investigation of the former president, reportedly having to testify at a Washington, D.C., grand jury as part of the investigation into classified documents seized at Trump&#039;s Mar-a-Lago estate. 
All this, along with other potential cases, including his involvement with the Jan. 6 riots, and accusations of 2020 election interference in Georgia, at least raise the possibility that Trump could be convicted, and perhaps, incarcerated.
CBC News looks at the role of the U.S. Secret Service in protecting former presidents, the challenges of Trump, and whether they would accompany him if he were sent to prison....
Trump, says Miller, has been an outlier in the history of the Secret Service because not only is he a former president, but a current candidate for president. (Presidential candidates are also afforded protection).&quot;

Includes a history of presidential protection protocols.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kate &gt; &#8220;Is Donald Trump actually safe with these people protecting him?&#8221;</p>
<p>Several things make this current story interesting to me:<br />
(1) Some of the people who guarded Biden in the past were willing to reveal how obnoxious he was (the Clintons were also not favorites with the troops).<br />
(2) Trump kept his own security guards after inauguration, although I&#8217;m not sure for how long; I think he has private security now in addition to his SS detail but couldn&#8217;t find a reference.<br />
(3) Trump&#8217;s SS detail liked him, at least according to a left-leaning writer.<br />
(4) Biden replaced the head of the SS and the members of his detail shortly after taking office; not unusual, but it means there is a &#8220;loyalty&#8221; factor in the cocaine caper cover-up.<br />
(5) Trump&#8217;s situation now has &#8220;competing&#8221; SS groups in action.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really seeing the makings of a great political movie plot here.</p>
<p>References:<br />
BIDEN (1) from 2014<br />
<a href="https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/female-secret-service-agents-find-joe-biden-s-skinny-dipping-habit-offensive-114080200706_1.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/female-secret-service-agents-find-joe-biden-s-skinny-dipping-habit-offensive-114080200706_1.html</a></p>
<p>(4) <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/biden-secret-service-kimberly-cheatle-00053638" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/24/biden-secret-service-kimberly-cheatle-00053638</a><br />
&#8220;President Joe Biden has appointed Kimberly Cheatle to be the next director of the Secret Service. &#8230; Biden “came to trust her judgment and counsel” when she was on his security detail as vice president, he said in his statement. In 2021, Biden awarded her a Presidential Rank Award,&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/joe-biden-secret-service/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/30/politics/joe-biden-secret-service/index.html</a><br />
&#8220;The US Secret Service has been planning to bring back to the White House a group of agents that previously worked with President-elect Joe Biden when he was vice president to fill out his security detail, a law enforcement source confirmed to CNN&#8230;.<br />
The staffing changes, first reported by The Washington Post, also come amid concern from Biden allies about the political loyalty of some current agents to Trump, two people familiar with the situation told the newspaper&#8230;.<br />
A former Secret Service executive told the Post the staffing changes were a “smart” decision in order to “give the incoming president the comfort of the familiar.”&#8230;“You want him to be with people he knows and trusts, and who also know how he operates,” the person said.&#8221;</p>
<p>TRUMP (2) <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/07/politics/secret-service-director-trump/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/07/politics/secret-service-director-trump/index.html</a><br />
US Secret Service Director Joseph Clancy wants to set the record straight about President-elect Donald Trump’s private security team and whether it’s causing conflict with his agents&#8230;.he wanted to push back against suggestions that there were conflicts between the Secret Service and the private security team that’s protected Trump for years&#8230;.“There is no friction at all” with Trump’s private team, insisted Clancy, who said his agency has “sole responsibility” for protecting the President and the first family. He added that there is no overlap between the private team and his agency&#8230;.He explained that while Trump’s private team is there to ensure public events run smoothly and there are no disruptions from the crowd, Secret Service agents are the only ones protecting the President-elect.&#8221;</p>
<p>(3) <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-secret-service-detail-cheered-capitol-riot-author-2022-6?op=1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-secret-service-detail-cheered-capitol-riot-author-2022-6?op=1</a></p>
<p>(Caveat: that was written by Carol Leonnig, whose veracity is questioned in this post, which gives more context on her reporting about SS activities under Obama, Trump, and Biden; it&#8217;s an account of deliberate bias in leftist reporting)<br />
<a href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/24/the-real-story-of-trumps-secret-service/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/24/the-real-story-of-trumps-secret-service/</a></p>
<p>(5) <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-secret-service-former-presidents-1.6808177" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/donald-trump-secret-service-former-presidents-1.6808177</a><br />
&#8220;The legal woes of Donald Trump have cast a new light on the role of those federal agents assigned to protect him and other former presidents for the rest of their lives: the U.S. Secret Service.<br />
There they were, accompanying the 45th president as he made his way into a Manhattan courthouse earlier this month to be fingerprinted and arraigned on 34 felony counts.<br />
Meanwhile, current and former officers assigned to Trump are part of another investigation of the former president, reportedly having to testify at a Washington, D.C., grand jury as part of the investigation into classified documents seized at Trump&#8217;s Mar-a-Lago estate.<br />
All this, along with other potential cases, including his involvement with the Jan. 6 riots, and accusations of 2020 election interference in Georgia, at least raise the possibility that Trump could be convicted, and perhaps, incarcerated.<br />
CBC News looks at the role of the U.S. Secret Service in protecting former presidents, the challenges of Trump, and whether they would accompany him if he were sent to prison&#8230;.<br />
Trump, says Miller, has been an outlier in the history of the Secret Service because not only is he a former president, but a current candidate for president. (Presidential candidates are also afforded protection).&#8221;</p>
<p>Includes a history of presidential protection protocols.</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2023 01:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;What would happen to Hunter, if the cocaine were found out to be his?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; is the only question that needs to be asked.  And a simple drug test would provide insights into that answer.  Did he take one?  Did he volunteer?  Didn&#039;t I read that  a violation of his plea arrangements would have exposed him to prosecution on a firearms violation?

@Griffin, if this were an anthrax scare, the FBI would already have announced a suspect, whether they were guilty of anything or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;What would happen to Hunter, if the cocaine were found out to be his?&#8221;</i> is the only question that needs to be asked.  And a simple drug test would provide insights into that answer.  Did he take one?  Did he volunteer?  Didn&#8217;t I read that  a violation of his plea arrangements would have exposed him to prosecution on a firearms violation?</p>
<p>@Griffin, if this were an anthrax scare, the FBI would already have announced a suspect, whether they were guilty of anything or not.</p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2023 00:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be honest...I had &quot;pin it on Kamala&quot; on my betting slip.

So &quot;lying&quot; was never in doubt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest&#8230;I had &#8220;pin it on Kamala&#8221; on my betting slip.</p>
<p>So &#8220;lying&#8221; was never in doubt.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2023 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now that the Secret Service has just announced to the whole world that they are totally incompetent, if a Republican President were to be elected, it would seem that such demonstrable incompetence can be used as the justification for disestablishing the Secret Service, and rebuilding it from the ground up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the Secret Service has just announced to the whole world that they are totally incompetent, if a Republican President were to be elected, it would seem that such demonstrable incompetence can be used as the justification for disestablishing the Secret Service, and rebuilding it from the ground up.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2023 00:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Biden standpoint they really didn&#039;t have a choice without risking their whole world of schemes and corruption unraveling.

Not that it justifies it, of course. 

And I do believe they are paying a price, though far from what they deserve.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Biden standpoint they really didn&#8217;t have a choice without risking their whole world of schemes and corruption unraveling.</p>
<p>Not that it justifies it, of course. </p>
<p>And I do believe they are paying a price, though far from what they deserve.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m reminded of the old Robert Ringer quote describing certain dishonest business people:
_____________________________

&lt;i&gt;I didn&#039;t mean to cut off your hands, but you gave me no choice when you reached for your chips.&lt;/i&gt;
_____________________________

They didn&#039;t mean to lie to us, but we gave them no choice when we insisted on an answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the old Robert Ringer quote describing certain dishonest business people:<br />
_____________________________</p>
<p><i>I didn&#8217;t mean to cut off your hands, but you gave me no choice when you reached for your chips.</i><br />
_____________________________</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t mean to lie to us, but we gave them no choice when we insisted on an answer.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So could I, miguel, but they don&#039;t listen to me. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So could I, miguel, but they don&#8217;t listen to me. 🙂</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[mr magoo could have told you it was a coverup,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr magoo could have told you it was a coverup,</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2023 22:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Former federal agents say this is a coverup.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/13/former-federal-investigators-cry-foul-on-wh-cocaine-this-is-a-coverup/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former federal agents say this is a coverup.</p>
<p><a href="https://nypost.com/2023/07/13/former-federal-investigators-cry-foul-on-wh-cocaine-this-is-a-coverup/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2023/07/13/former-federal-investigators-cry-foul-on-wh-cocaine-this-is-a-coverup/</a></p>
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