Comments on: And then there’s Wiki

By: Cappy

Cappy — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 13:00:51 +0000

N.B. and tired old complaint: Wikipedia ongoing and aggressive denial of pages for Ashli Babbit and Eric Ciaramella.

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 00:17:19 +0000

I stand corrected. (I think Bond was a mark as well).

By: neo

neo — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 23:48:47 +0000

Julian Bond was a co-founder of the SPLC and served as its president for about its first decade.

By: miguel cervantes

miguel cervantes — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:44:44 +0000

see how accomodating wikipedia is to certain subjects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brett_Kimberlin

By: Art Deco

Art Deco — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:29:18 +0000

There is no question, based on my memory, that Julian Bond was a public face of SPLC.
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Never seen his name associated with it. Just Dees.

By: Abraxas

Abraxas — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 21:43:41 +0000

“Cultural Marxism” is a label. It’s not a priori invalid. The progressive tendency now is far from “liberalism,” but it isn’t classical Marxism either. So what to call it? “Cultural Marxism” seems like as good a place as any to start, so long as you recognize that it isn’t classical Marxism (and may not have all that much to do with culture, either).

The “conspiracy theory” is that the Frankfurt School Marxists planned today’s dominant “successor ideology” and have been working hard to put it in place. Like other conspiracy theories it recognizes real influences, but thinks of them too concretely. Adorno and Horkheimer had long careers and had a lot of ideas through the years. Much of the time they had to deal with the failure of Marxism. Some of their ideas fit in with today’s progressive thinking. Others don’t. There was a phase in their careers when they voiced ideas that sound eerily similar to today’s progressives, but it would be wrong to think of them as busy conspirators or as the fountainheads of DEI. Were they alive today, they might be skeptical of today’s progressives as they were of the radicals of the 1960s. Corporations and bureaucracies are going to create Utopia by catering to minority groups? Maybe, but maybe not. Marcuse was a supporter and inspirer of the youth revolution of the 1960s, and you can certainly see similarities between his ideas and what we have now.

“Grooming” is a metaphor. It points to a truth, but the distinction between literal and metaphorical “groomers” should be kept in mind. The left has its own conspiracy theories. The idea that the Koch brothers, or some DC think tank, or a memo written by Lewis Powell 50 years ago are to blame for the loss of what they regard as a Golden Age. Like other conspiracy theories, they are oversimplifications, and mistake influences for determining factors. So far as I know, wikipedia doesn’t label such myths “conspiracy theories.”

By: Cicero

Cicero — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 15:17:53 +0000

Paul-
I took the info about SPLC’s 3 founders from WIKI. There is no question, based on my memory, that Julian Bond was a public face of SPLC.

By: sonny wayz

sonny wayz — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 13:39:17 +0000

The “put it right in the first sentence” practice is typical on Wikipedia.

The exact opposite of ‘burying the lede’, right?

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 08:37:45 +0000

Related:
“The EU’s Mass Censorship Regime Is Almost Fully Operational. Will It Go Global?”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eus-mass-censorship-regime-almost-fully-operational-will-it-go-global
Answer: With the WTF’s gnomes, trolls and goblins gleefully working overtime, the chances are excellent…unless Musk has something totally insane (in the Jobsian sense) up his sleeve…

OTOH, the Gods have been known to work in mysterious way…(on occasion, at least…), e.g.,
“Dutch Government Collapses Amid Deadlock Over Immigration Policy”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dutch-government-collapses-amid-deadlock-over-immigration-policy
“Germany’s far-right AfD wins vote to lead district for first time”—
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germanys-far-right-afd-wins-vote-lead-district-first-time-2023-06-25/
“Spain’s Conservative PP Party Makes Gains a Month Ahead of National Vote, Poll Shows”—
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-07-01/spains-conservative-pp-party-makes-gains-a-month-ahead-of-national-vote-poll-shows
…Not forgetting what happened in the Swedish election several months back.

(And then there is France…the land of “Rien a voir ici…”?)

By: Barry Meislin

Barry Meislin — Sun, 09 Jul 2023 08:00:31 +0000

…And then there’s YouTube…
“YouTube Censors Australian Politician’s Maiden Speech To Parliament”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/youtube-censors-australian-politicians-maiden-speech-parliament
Opening grafs:
‘ “30 minutes of truth bombs” is how one Twitter user described Liberal Democrat John Ruddick’s maiden speech to the New South Wales (NSW) Parliament, last Wednesday 28 June. “Indeed, Ruddick, who left the Liberal Party in 2021 after public disagreements over the Party’s handling of the pandemic response, said out loud in parliament what many Australians have been saying for some time now…as saying the obvious becomes more socially acceptable.
‘ Nevertheless, what is socially acceptable offline is not necessarily acceptable on social media. YouTube swiftly removed Ruddick’s speech from its platform, just seven hours after it was uploaded. The NSW Liberal Democrats say this is the first time in Australian history that a politician’s maiden speech has been censored by the platform….” [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]

Not just in OZ, of course…
– – – – – – – – – – –
And some more uber-creative Constitutional abracadabra by “Biden” Constitutional Scholars (TM)
“White House Spox Defends Admissions Discrimination As ‘Important Constitutional Right’ ”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-house-spox-defends-admissions-discrimination-important-constitutional-right