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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 13:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Welp, he knows about snatch.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBInZrRx5c]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welp, he knows about snatch.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBInZrRx5c" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBInZrRx5c</a></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 14:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Prime targets for get on the ice floe.&lt;/i&gt;
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Maybe you improve the quality of life in this country by self-deporting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Prime targets for get on the ice floe.</i><br />
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Maybe you improve the quality of life in this country by self-deporting.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/01/college-loan-forgiveness-democrats-campaign-on-republicans-are-mean/#comment-2687321</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 12:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[after duke power, a college degree was deemed in lieu of skills, a credential, biut it&#039;s like the cracker jack box]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after duke power, a college degree was deemed in lieu of skills, a credential, biut it&#8217;s like the cracker jack box</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/07/01/college-loan-forgiveness-democrats-campaign-on-republicans-are-mean/#comment-2687320</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 12:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One other thing we might do is work to strip higher education of its role in sorting the labor market via  the distribution of market signals.  One is by limiting educational qualifications to work in the public sector to the fancy professions, to those dispensed by service academies, and to those for certain teaching positions.  Recruit the general run of public employees via ranked results on examinations and you recruit certain sorts through a multiplicity of tests (some written, some physical) of which some tests have ranked results and some are pass fail.  In the private sector, have the law impose a civil-service-type recruitment system on utilities, but otherwise allow commercial companies to recruit and promote according to their preference.  This implies reducing employment discrimination law to a residue wherein certain types of behavior which map to common crimes could be defined as tortious with liability falling on abusive employees in all circumstances and companies in some circumstances. You could also have co-ordinate state and federal legislation to require private employers to file audited statements wherein the demographics of their company over the preceding year are disclosed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing we might do is work to strip higher education of its role in sorting the labor market via  the distribution of market signals.  One is by limiting educational qualifications to work in the public sector to the fancy professions, to those dispensed by service academies, and to those for certain teaching positions.  Recruit the general run of public employees via ranked results on examinations and you recruit certain sorts through a multiplicity of tests (some written, some physical) of which some tests have ranked results and some are pass fail.  In the private sector, have the law impose a civil-service-type recruitment system on utilities, but otherwise allow commercial companies to recruit and promote according to their preference.  This implies reducing employment discrimination law to a residue wherein certain types of behavior which map to common crimes could be defined as tortious with liability falling on abusive employees in all circumstances and companies in some circumstances. You could also have co-ordinate state and federal legislation to require private employers to file audited statements wherein the demographics of their company over the preceding year are disclosed.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 12:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[we&#039;re at the charlton heston screaming at the statue of liberty phase

https://dailycaller.com/2023/07/02/joy-reid-harvard-affirmative-action/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re at the charlton heston screaming at the statue of liberty phase</p>
<p><a href="https://dailycaller.com/2023/07/02/joy-reid-harvard-affirmative-action/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://dailycaller.com/2023/07/02/joy-reid-harvard-affirmative-action/</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...filthy sleeves...&quot;, continued---from our despondent correspondent...
An angry Roger Kimball is hopeful but not especially convinced that a substantive investigation of the MOST CORRUPT AND VENAL POTUS in the history of the U.S of A. will ever get off the ground; or if it does occur, be in time to make any difference; or if does occur in time, be at all publicized by THE MOST CORRUPT AND VENAL MEDIA in the history of the U.S. of A.
He IS, however, prepared to be surprised.
The model on which he bases his despondency is the masterfully convoluted and multidemnsional Russiagate...but it might as well be the elaborate Covid-19 cover-up...or the resourcefully stolen elections (and the changes in voting laws and procedures that have mostly NOT wrought as a result)...or the magnificently choreographed January 6 entrapment...or etc.:
&quot;Biden Bribery Wheeze is like the Russia Collusion Delusion&quot;---
https://amgreatness.com/2023/07/02/biden-bribery-wheeze-is-like-the-russia-collusion-delusion/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;filthy sleeves&#8230;&#8221;, continued&#8212;from our despondent correspondent&#8230;<br />
An angry Roger Kimball is hopeful but not especially convinced that a substantive investigation of the MOST CORRUPT AND VENAL POTUS in the history of the U.S of A. will ever get off the ground; or if it does occur, be in time to make any difference; or if does occur in time, be at all publicized by THE MOST CORRUPT AND VENAL MEDIA in the history of the U.S. of A.<br />
He IS, however, prepared to be surprised.<br />
The model on which he bases his despondency is the masterfully convoluted and multidemnsional Russiagate&#8230;but it might as well be the elaborate Covid-19 cover-up&#8230;or the resourcefully stolen elections (and the changes in voting laws and procedures that have mostly NOT wrought as a result)&#8230;or the magnificently choreographed January 6 entrapment&#8230;or etc.:<br />
&#8220;Biden Bribery Wheeze is like the Russia Collusion Delusion&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://amgreatness.com/2023/07/02/biden-bribery-wheeze-is-like-the-russia-collusion-delusion/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://amgreatness.com/2023/07/02/biden-bribery-wheeze-is-like-the-russia-collusion-delusion/</a></p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 12:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another thing we could do is enact co-ordinate federal and state legislation which would allow youths to partake of higher education in smaller doses and remove the padding incorporated into current standards and practices.  Abolish the baccalaureate degree and the master&#039;s degree.  Put extant physical plant under the supervision of state agencies, institutional consortia, and / or private companies.  The plant operators would then host one or more institutions who would pay rent, letting out some buildings to other parties or demolishing them.  The institutions might be public or private and they might be of a standard type or an eccentric type.  
==
Standard type institutions might be as follows: 
==
1. 2d chance high schools, which would be largely vocational-technical in their orientation but have some academic options.  The constituency for these would encompass ~ 28% of the adult population.  These would replace the community and technical colleges, for the most part.  They would issue certificates which would represent varying quanta of study but the median value would be about 45 credit-hours.  The course content would be devoted to one subject bar academic, business, and technology courses necessary to complete course work in that one subject.  
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2. Preparatory institutes. These would offer primarily academic courses with some business and technology courses.  Some students would be those admitted to occupational / professional schools under advisement, told to gain background in certain subjects before matriculating.  Other students would be starting and finishing a standard certificate necessary for a given sort of occupational / professional school.  Such certificates could consist of anything from a three-week workshop to a 60-70 credit-hour  program to prepare for medical school or law school. Somewhere around 45% of each cohort might put in some time in one of these, typically six months or less.
==
3. Occupational institutes: These would issue degrees and certificates of varying length all devoted to occupational training.  The median course of study would be 48 credit-hours and would seldom if ever exceed 60 credit-hours. The institutes would be organized as federations of schools and the admissions requirements would be school specific.  Just about any occupation might be studied in such institutes except (1) teaching and research occupations requiring extended study of an academic subject; (2) the fancy professions (engineering, medicine and allied treating professions, law, clinical psychology, veterinary medicine, &#038;c); (3) training that might be profitably offered to secondary school students.  Much of the work posited is done today by baccalaureate-granting institutions with some done by community colleges.  Roughly 40% of each cohort might put in time with one of these.
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4. Universities: these would have an academic side and a professional side.  On the academic side would be &#039;college&#039;, where students would devote one, two, or three years to the study of a single subject.  They could leave at any time and the institution could also winnow, reserving more extended study for better students.  Also, on the academic side would be a research institute where research degrees could be pursued.  On the professional side, bog standard would be an engineering institute, a medical institute, and a law institute.  Professional psychology or veterinary medicine might be available as well. The medical institute would begin with a teaching hospital and medical school and might include schools for other medical treating occupations and might include a research institute.  The others might or might not include research institute.  There might also be a general research institute for people to pursue research degrees in occupational subjects for which there is no teaching component, such as the study of business or public policy.  Roughly 15% of each cohort might have time in a university or the equivalent.
==
Off center institutions might include service academies (military, naval, air, police, fire and rescue, maritime, civil aviation), agricultural schools (w/or without veterinary medicine and research centers), centers for the performing and studio arts (very like occupational institutions, but not practical), diploma programs at working institutions (e.g. hospitals, museums, archives, and libraries),  stand-alone university components, and stand-alone occupational or trade schools.  
==
In such a set up, one might posit that about 2/3 of a typical cohort would have some time in tertiary schooling, that those partaking of tertiary schooling might have one or two tours through it on average, and that a tour of the modal type would consist of roughly six months in a preparatory institute followed by a calendar year or two academic years in an occupational institute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing we could do is enact co-ordinate federal and state legislation which would allow youths to partake of higher education in smaller doses and remove the padding incorporated into current standards and practices.  Abolish the baccalaureate degree and the master&#8217;s degree.  Put extant physical plant under the supervision of state agencies, institutional consortia, and / or private companies.  The plant operators would then host one or more institutions who would pay rent, letting out some buildings to other parties or demolishing them.  The institutions might be public or private and they might be of a standard type or an eccentric type.<br />
==<br />
Standard type institutions might be as follows:<br />
==<br />
1. 2d chance high schools, which would be largely vocational-technical in their orientation but have some academic options.  The constituency for these would encompass ~ 28% of the adult population.  These would replace the community and technical colleges, for the most part.  They would issue certificates which would represent varying quanta of study but the median value would be about 45 credit-hours.  The course content would be devoted to one subject bar academic, business, and technology courses necessary to complete course work in that one subject.<br />
==<br />
2. Preparatory institutes. These would offer primarily academic courses with some business and technology courses.  Some students would be those admitted to occupational / professional schools under advisement, told to gain background in certain subjects before matriculating.  Other students would be starting and finishing a standard certificate necessary for a given sort of occupational / professional school.  Such certificates could consist of anything from a three-week workshop to a 60-70 credit-hour  program to prepare for medical school or law school. Somewhere around 45% of each cohort might put in some time in one of these, typically six months or less.<br />
==<br />
3. Occupational institutes: These would issue degrees and certificates of varying length all devoted to occupational training.  The median course of study would be 48 credit-hours and would seldom if ever exceed 60 credit-hours. The institutes would be organized as federations of schools and the admissions requirements would be school specific.  Just about any occupation might be studied in such institutes except (1) teaching and research occupations requiring extended study of an academic subject; (2) the fancy professions (engineering, medicine and allied treating professions, law, clinical psychology, veterinary medicine, &amp;c); (3) training that might be profitably offered to secondary school students.  Much of the work posited is done today by baccalaureate-granting institutions with some done by community colleges.  Roughly 40% of each cohort might put in time with one of these.<br />
==<br />
4. Universities: these would have an academic side and a professional side.  On the academic side would be &#8216;college&#8217;, where students would devote one, two, or three years to the study of a single subject.  They could leave at any time and the institution could also winnow, reserving more extended study for better students.  Also, on the academic side would be a research institute where research degrees could be pursued.  On the professional side, bog standard would be an engineering institute, a medical institute, and a law institute.  Professional psychology or veterinary medicine might be available as well. The medical institute would begin with a teaching hospital and medical school and might include schools for other medical treating occupations and might include a research institute.  The others might or might not include research institute.  There might also be a general research institute for people to pursue research degrees in occupational subjects for which there is no teaching component, such as the study of business or public policy.  Roughly 15% of each cohort might have time in a university or the equivalent.<br />
==<br />
Off center institutions might include service academies (military, naval, air, police, fire and rescue, maritime, civil aviation), agricultural schools (w/or without veterinary medicine and research centers), centers for the performing and studio arts (very like occupational institutions, but not practical), diploma programs at working institutions (e.g. hospitals, museums, archives, and libraries),  stand-alone university components, and stand-alone occupational or trade schools.<br />
==<br />
In such a set up, one might posit that about 2/3 of a typical cohort would have some time in tertiary schooling, that those partaking of tertiary schooling might have one or two tours through it on average, and that a tour of the modal type would consist of roughly six months in a preparatory institute followed by a calendar year or two academic years in an occupational institute.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 12:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Joe doesn’t realize that an awful lot of working-class Americans didn’t go to college, and that a lot of middle-class Americans didn’t rack up massive college debt.&lt;/i&gt;
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Joe doesn&#039;t realize much of anything anymore.  And his entire family consists of Bourbon grotesques.
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Even today, about 1/3 of each cohort acquires no tertiary schooling and about 55% have no contact with baccalaureate granting institutions.  The average outstanding loan balance a few years back was $45,000.  
==
There&#039;s a New York pol named Alessandra Biaggi who was complaining that her loan balance was $180,000 in 2012 and is now $206,000 due to accrued interest, even though she&#039;s been making payments over the years.  That&#039;s four years of college, three years of law school, private institutions from stem to stern, and an occupational life that has consisted of political patronage jobs.  She&#039;s the actual constituency for Biden&#039;s program.  
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One thing that might be done is to expand the circumstances under which student loan debt could be discharged in bankruptcy.  Who promoted the current rather Dickensian rules in regard to student loans, enacted in 2004?  Joseph Biden, acting as a cat&#039;s paw of the credit card companies headquartered in Delaware.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Joe doesn’t realize that an awful lot of working-class Americans didn’t go to college, and that a lot of middle-class Americans didn’t rack up massive college debt.</i><br />
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Joe doesn&#8217;t realize much of anything anymore.  And his entire family consists of Bourbon grotesques.<br />
==<br />
Even today, about 1/3 of each cohort acquires no tertiary schooling and about 55% have no contact with baccalaureate granting institutions.  The average outstanding loan balance a few years back was $45,000.<br />
==<br />
There&#8217;s a New York pol named Alessandra Biaggi who was complaining that her loan balance was $180,000 in 2012 and is now $206,000 due to accrued interest, even though she&#8217;s been making payments over the years.  That&#8217;s four years of college, three years of law school, private institutions from stem to stern, and an occupational life that has consisted of political patronage jobs.  She&#8217;s the actual constituency for Biden&#8217;s program.<br />
==<br />
One thing that might be done is to expand the circumstances under which student loan debt could be discharged in bankruptcy.  Who promoted the current rather Dickensian rules in regard to student loans, enacted in 2004?  Joseph Biden, acting as a cat&#8217;s paw of the credit card companies headquartered in Delaware.<br />
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 11:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“Disability” qualification for Social Security is very loose.&lt;/i&gt;
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It has gotten that way.  My understanding is that there are substantive and procedural problems with disability programs.  As we speak, about 1/4 of those currently collecting Social Security Disability were awarded it for &#039;anxiety disorders&#039; or &#039;mood disorders&#039;.  That amounts to about 2 million people.  
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It should be noted that SSDI is not a collecting pool of people formerly on AFDC.  The median age at which benefits are awarded is 49, only about 25% of those awarded benefits have a dependent, and about 1/2 the primary beneficiaries are male. 
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SSI is the program for people who are supposedly disabled nearly all their working lives, as well as a few oldsters who had an insufficient domestic work history to qualify for Social Security.  And, yes, quite a few of those on SSI are so due to psychiatric problems that no ordinary person would consider disabling.  We&#039;ve got a shirt-tail relation who is in this situation now.  Aside from her own deficiencies, it&#039;s a perfect storm of stupidity on the part of her father, her mother, mental health tradesmen, and hearing examiners.  She receives the average benefit, about $700 a month.  She lives with her parents (at age 31) and the benefit offsets her grocery bills, medical co-pays, &#038;c.  
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So, by all means, clean up the disability rolls.  This is a problem of a different kind than AFDC or general relief. AFDC and general relief were comprehensively inadvisable programs.  SSDI and SSI are inadvisable in certain contingencies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Disability” qualification for Social Security is very loose.</i><br />
==<br />
It has gotten that way.  My understanding is that there are substantive and procedural problems with disability programs.  As we speak, about 1/4 of those currently collecting Social Security Disability were awarded it for &#8216;anxiety disorders&#8217; or &#8216;mood disorders&#8217;.  That amounts to about 2 million people.<br />
==<br />
It should be noted that SSDI is not a collecting pool of people formerly on AFDC.  The median age at which benefits are awarded is 49, only about 25% of those awarded benefits have a dependent, and about 1/2 the primary beneficiaries are male.<br />
==<br />
SSI is the program for people who are supposedly disabled nearly all their working lives, as well as a few oldsters who had an insufficient domestic work history to qualify for Social Security.  And, yes, quite a few of those on SSI are so due to psychiatric problems that no ordinary person would consider disabling.  We&#8217;ve got a shirt-tail relation who is in this situation now.  Aside from her own deficiencies, it&#8217;s a perfect storm of stupidity on the part of her father, her mother, mental health tradesmen, and hearing examiners.  She receives the average benefit, about $700 a month.  She lives with her parents (at age 31) and the benefit offsets her grocery bills, medical co-pays, &amp;c.<br />
==<br />
So, by all means, clean up the disability rolls.  This is a problem of a different kind than AFDC or general relief. AFDC and general relief were comprehensively inadvisable programs.  SSDI and SSI are inadvisable in certain contingencies.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 09:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More Mean Republicans(TM)....Enjoy!
&quot;Winsome Sears Nukes Ketanji Brown Jackson&#039;s Dissent...&quot;---
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/06/30/winsome-sears-nukes-ketanji-brown-jacksons-dissent-chosen-because-shes-black-n1707504
+ Bonus:
&quot;Michelle Obama Takes Time From Opulent Greek Isles Vacation to Tweet About Muh Oppression&quot;---
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2023/07/01/michelle-obama-takes-time-from-opulent-greek-isles-vacation-to-tweet-about-muh-oppression-n1707713]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Mean Republicans(TM)&#8230;.Enjoy!<br />
&#8220;Winsome Sears Nukes Ketanji Brown Jackson&#8217;s Dissent&#8230;&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/06/30/winsome-sears-nukes-ketanji-brown-jacksons-dissent-chosen-because-shes-black-n1707504" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/06/30/winsome-sears-nukes-ketanji-brown-jacksons-dissent-chosen-because-shes-black-n1707504</a><br />
+ Bonus:<br />
&#8220;Michelle Obama Takes Time From Opulent Greek Isles Vacation to Tweet About Muh Oppression&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2023/07/01/michelle-obama-takes-time-from-opulent-greek-isles-vacation-to-tweet-about-muh-oppression-n1707713" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/athena-thorne/2023/07/01/michelle-obama-takes-time-from-opulent-greek-isles-vacation-to-tweet-about-muh-oppression-n1707713</a></p>
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