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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/28/we-didnt-reallymean-were-coming-for-your-kids/#comment-2691155</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Church and the Children?

DRYDEN, Mich. (AP) — Unmarked buildings, the visiting priests arrived discreetly, day and night.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church and the Children?</p>
<p>DRYDEN, Mich. (AP) — Unmarked buildings, the visiting priests arrived discreetly, day and night.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/28/we-didnt-reallymean-were-coming-for-your-kids/#comment-2686712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure the Radical Fairies ever been formally incorporated, so I&#039;m not sure you can say they have a corporate position on anything but what you can observe of them.  Their founder, Harry Hay, was an open advocate of including NAMBLA in homosexual agitation, so there&#039;s that.    Sexually violating children was of a piece with Hay&#039;s general viewpoint, which was tended toward an end to critical assessment of &#039;sexual expression&#039; of any kind.  He said (to a respectful NPR interviewer in 1990) that he&#039;d founded the Radical Fairies because he was disappointed in regard to the evolution of the Mattachine Society after 1950 (which he helped found), because the organization wasn&#039;t interested in promoting anything bizarre above and beyond the private practice of sodomy. 
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A note on NPR.  I&#039;m remembering some bint on NPR around about 1999 arguing obstreperously with Milton Friedman on Eastern European economies.  Of course, Hay, who was disgusting as they come, did not get similar treatment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure the Radical Fairies ever been formally incorporated, so I&#8217;m not sure you can say they have a corporate position on anything but what you can observe of them.  Their founder, Harry Hay, was an open advocate of including NAMBLA in homosexual agitation, so there&#8217;s that.    Sexually violating children was of a piece with Hay&#8217;s general viewpoint, which was tended toward an end to critical assessment of &#8216;sexual expression&#8217; of any kind.  He said (to a respectful NPR interviewer in 1990) that he&#8217;d founded the Radical Fairies because he was disappointed in regard to the evolution of the Mattachine Society after 1950 (which he helped found), because the organization wasn&#8217;t interested in promoting anything bizarre above and beyond the private practice of sodomy.<br />
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A note on NPR.  I&#8217;m remembering some bint on NPR around about 1999 arguing obstreperously with Milton Friedman on Eastern European economies.  Of course, Hay, who was disgusting as they come, did not get similar treatment.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/28/we-didnt-reallymean-were-coming-for-your-kids/#comment-2686705</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looking Back: “We’re Coming For Your Children” Group, The Radical Faeries, was Founded by a “Man-Boy Loving” Marxist    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/looking-back-were-coming-your-children-group-radical/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking Back: “We’re Coming For Your Children” Group, The Radical Faeries, was Founded by a “Man-Boy Loving” Marxist    <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/looking-back-were-coming-your-children-group-radical/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/looking-back-were-coming-your-children-group-radical/</a></p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/28/we-didnt-reallymean-were-coming-for-your-kids/#comment-2686669</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;A growing number of countries, including some of the most progressive in Europe, are rejecting the U.S. “gender-affirming” model of care for transgender-identified youth. These countries have adopted a far more restrictive and cautious approach, one that prioritizes psychotherapy and reserves hormonal interventions for extreme cases.&lt;/i&gt;

Similar to abortion?  There are things to be said for our populist, individualist, rights-based society, but also drawbacks. Absolutist rights-based individualism prevails over moderate policies that give more of a role to medical professionals.  On the other hand, we are probably further away from making euthanasia a common practice than Canada or Europe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A growing number of countries, including some of the most progressive in Europe, are rejecting the U.S. “gender-affirming” model of care for transgender-identified youth. These countries have adopted a far more restrictive and cautious approach, one that prioritizes psychotherapy and reserves hormonal interventions for extreme cases.</i></p>
<p>Similar to abortion?  There are things to be said for our populist, individualist, rights-based society, but also drawbacks. Absolutist rights-based individualism prevails over moderate policies that give more of a role to medical professionals.  On the other hand, we are probably further away from making euthanasia a common practice than Canada or Europe.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was understandable that gays didn&#039;t want to be ashamed and made to feel inferior, but with all the publicity and agitation surrounding homosexuality, self-affirmation became advertisement for the lifestyle, and came to be seen as such.  It&#039;s also hard to coordinate the desire to be accepted as mature, responsible adult members of the community with the desire to act out one&#039;s feelings and attract attention by whatever means.

There&#039;s a growing division in the gay world that militants, activists, and Democrats are working hard to suppress.  There are the determined militants and proselytizers, there are the zanies (everybody&#039;s little brother, the beneficiaries of much tolerance because they aren&#039;t taken seriously), there are the sybarites and swingers, and there are the mature, responsible homosexuals trying hard to make their gay marriages work (the group we were told were, or would become, the majority).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was understandable that gays didn&#8217;t want to be ashamed and made to feel inferior, but with all the publicity and agitation surrounding homosexuality, self-affirmation became advertisement for the lifestyle, and came to be seen as such.  It&#8217;s also hard to coordinate the desire to be accepted as mature, responsible adult members of the community with the desire to act out one&#8217;s feelings and attract attention by whatever means.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a growing division in the gay world that militants, activists, and Democrats are working hard to suppress.  There are the determined militants and proselytizers, there are the zanies (everybody&#8217;s little brother, the beneficiaries of much tolerance because they aren&#8217;t taken seriously), there are the sybarites and swingers, and there are the mature, responsible homosexuals trying hard to make their gay marriages work (the group we were told were, or would become, the majority).</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related:
&quot;Why Europe and America are going in opposite directions on youth transgender medicine&quot;---
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4070174-why-europe-and-america-are-going-in-opposite-directions-on-youth-transgender-medicine/
H/T Instapundit.
Key grafs:
&#039; A growing number of countries, including some of the most progressive in Europe, are rejecting the U.S. “gender-affirming” model of care for transgender-identified youth. These countries have adopted a far more restrictive and cautious approach, one that prioritizes psychotherapy and reserves hormonal interventions for extreme cases....
&#039; If implemented in American clinics, the European approach would effectively deny puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to most adolescents who are receiving these drugs today. &lt;b&gt;Unlike in the U.S., in Europe surgeries are generally off the table before adulthood.&lt;/b&gt;  
&#039; Why...? The answer is that &lt;b&gt;Europeans are following principles of evidence-based medicine (EBM), while Americans are not.
&#039; A bedrock principle of EBM is that medical recommendations should be grounded in the best available research. EBM recognizes a hierarchy of information.&lt;/b&gt;....&#039; [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]

(Why? Some might opine, &quot;Follow the money...&quot;)

Seriously though, where are all those---who piously, plaintively and monotonously intone that the US should be so much more like Europe---when you need &#039;em?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related:<br />
&#8220;Why Europe and America are going in opposite directions on youth transgender medicine&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4070174-why-europe-and-america-are-going-in-opposite-directions-on-youth-transgender-medicine/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4070174-why-europe-and-america-are-going-in-opposite-directions-on-youth-transgender-medicine/</a><br />
H/T Instapundit.<br />
Key grafs:<br />
&#8216; A growing number of countries, including some of the most progressive in Europe, are rejecting the U.S. “gender-affirming” model of care for transgender-identified youth. These countries have adopted a far more restrictive and cautious approach, one that prioritizes psychotherapy and reserves hormonal interventions for extreme cases&#8230;.<br />
&#8216; If implemented in American clinics, the European approach would effectively deny puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to most adolescents who are receiving these drugs today. <b>Unlike in the U.S., in Europe surgeries are generally off the table before adulthood.</b><br />
&#8216; Why&#8230;? The answer is that <b>Europeans are following principles of evidence-based medicine (EBM), while Americans are not.<br />
&#8216; A bedrock principle of EBM is that medical recommendations should be grounded in the best available research. EBM recognizes a hierarchy of information.</b>&#8230;.&#8217; [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]</p>
<p>(Why? Some might opine, &#8220;Follow the money&#8230;&#8221;)</p>
<p>Seriously though, where are all those&#8212;who piously, plaintively and monotonously intone that the US should be so much more like Europe&#8212;when you need &#8217;em?</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 02:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all  good fun &lt;i&gt;épater le bourgeois&lt;/i&gt; until &lt;i&gt;le bourgeois&lt;/i&gt; notice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all  good fun <i>épater le bourgeois</i> until <i>le bourgeois</i> notice.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/28/we-didnt-reallymean-were-coming-for-your-kids/#comment-2686605</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 00:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nope, they don&#039;t &#039;really&#039; mean it ...

These people are sick. Disney has a pedo problem. This was hard to watch.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, they don&#8217;t &#8216;really&#8217; mean it &#8230;</p>
<p>These people are sick. Disney has a pedo problem. This was hard to watch.<br />
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		By: cb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 00:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More...  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12238655/Detroit-parents-slam-deceptive-teachers-seek-truth-secret-records-trans-students.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More&#8230;  <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12238655/Detroit-parents-slam-deceptive-teachers-seek-truth-secret-records-trans-students.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12238655/Detroit-parents-slam-deceptive-teachers-seek-truth-secret-records-trans-students.html</a></p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/28/we-didnt-reallymean-were-coming-for-your-kids/#comment-2686599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2023 00:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excuse me for not laughing.  

https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2023/06/28/californication-california-is-set-to-pass-laws-allowing-for-state-sanctioned-kidnapping-and-required-affirmation-of-gender-confused-kids-n768679]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me for not laughing.  </p>
<p><a href="https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2023/06/28/californication-california-is-set-to-pass-laws-allowing-for-state-sanctioned-kidnapping-and-required-affirmation-of-gender-confused-kids-n768679" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2023/06/28/californication-california-is-set-to-pass-laws-allowing-for-state-sanctioned-kidnapping-and-required-affirmation-of-gender-confused-kids-n768679</a></p>
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