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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 20:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Oldflyer:&lt;i&gt; I just don’t know what McCarthy can do to become acceptable to some people.&lt;/i&gt;

In my case, he could have chosen not to shank his own party on the debt ceiling &quot;deal&quot;. That  &quot;deal&quot; had more House Dems vote yes than Republicans, and more Republicans voted no than Democrats did.

All he had to do was nothing for total victory. Ergo, he did not want the victory. He wanted to see the cronies get paid. Mission accomplished.

&lt;i&gt;I cannot imagine another political base that derides every leader in the same the way as Republicans &lt;/i&gt;

Some of us are tired of being played for chumps, and some of us are apparently content to continue to be played. Some of us think it is high time that real effective opposition uses the power it has to effect real change instead of always making excuses for why they shouldn&#039;t even try.

The Dems knew they couldn&#039;t get impeachment through the Senate, didn&#039;t stop them... the Dems know they have to deliver for their base, and the Republicans know they don&#039;t have to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Oldflyer:<i> I just don’t know what McCarthy can do to become acceptable to some people.</i></p>
<p>In my case, he could have chosen not to shank his own party on the debt ceiling &#8220;deal&#8221;. That  &#8220;deal&#8221; had more House Dems vote yes than Republicans, and more Republicans voted no than Democrats did.</p>
<p>All he had to do was nothing for total victory. Ergo, he did not want the victory. He wanted to see the cronies get paid. Mission accomplished.</p>
<p><i>I cannot imagine another political base that derides every leader in the same the way as Republicans </i></p>
<p>Some of us are tired of being played for chumps, and some of us are apparently content to continue to be played. Some of us think it is high time that real effective opposition uses the power it has to effect real change instead of always making excuses for why they shouldn&#8217;t even try.</p>
<p>The Dems knew they couldn&#8217;t get impeachment through the Senate, didn&#8217;t stop them&#8230; the Dems know they have to deliver for their base, and the Republicans know they don&#8217;t have to.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 18:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As much as I would like to see Biden impeached, and convicted, I know it is impossible.  I believe the best course at the moment is to do every thing possible to limit how much damage  he can do; but otherwise stay  out of his way and let him implode.  That is one thing he is doing well.
If the Democrats want to run him in 24, then so much better.  I have a low opinion of the American electorate but I do not yet, emphasis on yet,  believe that a majority are blithering idiots.  (I know that is in poor taste, but I am retro and in my day that  was not an uncommon epithet.)

On another subject, I just don&#039;t know what McCarthy can do to become acceptable to some people.  I cannot imagine another political base that derides every leader in the same the way as Republicans (or is RINO a more description?); exempting Reagan of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I would like to see Biden impeached, and convicted, I know it is impossible.  I believe the best course at the moment is to do every thing possible to limit how much damage  he can do; but otherwise stay  out of his way and let him implode.  That is one thing he is doing well.<br />
If the Democrats want to run him in 24, then so much better.  I have a low opinion of the American electorate but I do not yet, emphasis on yet,  believe that a majority are blithering idiots.  (I know that is in poor taste, but I am retro and in my day that  was not an uncommon epithet.)</p>
<p>On another subject, I just don&#8217;t know what McCarthy can do to become acceptable to some people.  I cannot imagine another political base that derides every leader in the same the way as Republicans (or is RINO a more description?); exempting Reagan of course.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686227</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...Biden is a spent force politically...&quot;

Except that Biden is NOT &quot;Biden&quot; (as you imply when you say &quot;the real operators&quot;).

...The REAL problem being that if Biden is on the ballot---as he most likely will be, chortling and grinning his SH**-FACED grin while slandering and sliming half the country and babbling about UNITY---AND IF the election laws and the SUPERVISION of those elections will NOT be fundamentally changed by November 2024, then Biden---i.e., &quot;BIDEN&quot;---&quot;wins&quot; &quot;again&quot;.

File under: &quot;OUR DEMOCRACY&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Biden is a spent force politically&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Except that Biden is NOT &#8220;Biden&#8221; (as you imply when you say &#8220;the real operators&#8221;).</p>
<p>&#8230;The REAL problem being that if Biden is on the ballot&#8212;as he most likely will be, chortling and grinning his SH**-FACED grin while slandering and sliming half the country and babbling about UNITY&#8212;AND IF the election laws and the SUPERVISION of those elections will NOT be fundamentally changed by November 2024, then Biden&#8212;i.e., &#8220;BIDEN&#8221;&#8212;&#8220;wins&#8221; &#8220;again&#8221;.</p>
<p>File under: &#8220;OUR DEMOCRACY&#8221;!</p>
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		By: buddhaha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686219</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 07:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m against impeaching Biden now as well. Three words: President Kamela Harris. 

Start lower. Garland and Majorkas are ripe. They&#039;ve both committed more than one impeachable  offences. The real problem is getting rid of Harris first. There&#039;s no obvious criminal behavior (now) and it&#039;s hard to argue incompetence when there&#039;s no actual vice-presidential duties to be competent at. (And, fie on the dangling participle rule.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m against impeaching Biden now as well. Three words: President Kamela Harris. </p>
<p>Start lower. Garland and Majorkas are ripe. They&#8217;ve both committed more than one impeachable  offences. The real problem is getting rid of Harris first. There&#8217;s no obvious criminal behavior (now) and it&#8217;s hard to argue incompetence when there&#8217;s no actual vice-presidential duties to be competent at. (And, fie on the dangling participle rule.)</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686212</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 04:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course most Republicans won&#039;t impeach Biden for his family business deals:

a) He&#039;s a long-time Washington insider,
b) Kevin McCarthy is only interested in the theater of opposition,
c) Too many Congressmen and Senators also have done what Biden has done.

The talk of expunging the Trump impeachments is just to toss the Republican base a bone. Even if it were done it changes nothing and inconveniences no one, and it&#039;s as convincing as the new Bud Light campaigns.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course most Republicans won&#8217;t impeach Biden for his family business deals:</p>
<p>a) He&#8217;s a long-time Washington insider,<br />
b) Kevin McCarthy is only interested in the theater of opposition,<br />
c) Too many Congressmen and Senators also have done what Biden has done.</p>
<p>The talk of expunging the Trump impeachments is just to toss the Republican base a bone. Even if it were done it changes nothing and inconveniences no one, and it&#8217;s as convincing as the new Bud Light campaigns.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686208</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another quote from &#039;Joe Bribing&#039;?

“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Biden said. (2020)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another quote from &#8216;Joe Bribing&#8217;?</p>
<p>“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Biden said. (2020)</p>
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		By: mkent		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686207</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: Thanks for the kind words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: Thanks for the kind words.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686199</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Red State posted a couple of relevant articles.

I think Duke is right about the impeachment, and the use of media by the GOP, which desperately needs to up its game in that department.

https://redstate.com/tladuke/2023/06/26/lets-slow-the-roll-on-impeachment-of-anyone-before-the-gop-does-this-first-n767378

More on the CNN &quot;exclusive&quot; -- IMO, no provenance, no credibility.
And if it was leaked by Smith, then it&#039;s time to close down the DOJ from top to bottom.

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/06/26/breaking-cnn-obtains-trump-audio-critical-to-classified-documents-case-n767782

Certainly looks like that&#039;s what Biden said.
Whether that is what he meant, or if he even knew what he was talking about, is debatable.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/06/26/joe-biden-proclaims-that-he-sold-a-lot-of-state-secrets-during-white-house-meeting-n767645]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red State posted a couple of relevant articles.</p>
<p>I think Duke is right about the impeachment, and the use of media by the GOP, which desperately needs to up its game in that department.</p>
<p><a href="https://redstate.com/tladuke/2023/06/26/lets-slow-the-roll-on-impeachment-of-anyone-before-the-gop-does-this-first-n767378" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/tladuke/2023/06/26/lets-slow-the-roll-on-impeachment-of-anyone-before-the-gop-does-this-first-n767378</a></p>
<p>More on the CNN &#8220;exclusive&#8221; &#8212; IMO, no provenance, no credibility.<br />
And if it was leaked by Smith, then it&#8217;s time to close down the DOJ from top to bottom.</p>
<p><a href="https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/06/26/breaking-cnn-obtains-trump-audio-critical-to-classified-documents-case-n767782" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/06/26/breaking-cnn-obtains-trump-audio-critical-to-classified-documents-case-n767782</a></p>
<p>Certainly looks like that&#8217;s what Biden said.<br />
Whether that is what he meant, or if he even knew what he was talking about, is debatable.</p>
<p><a href="https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/06/26/joe-biden-proclaims-that-he-sold-a-lot-of-state-secrets-during-white-house-meeting-n767645" rel="nofollow ugc">https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/06/26/joe-biden-proclaims-that-he-sold-a-lot-of-state-secrets-during-white-house-meeting-n767645</a></p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/26/roundup-80/#comment-2686197</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jack Smith and DOJ just leaked the Trump audio tape to CNN. https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1673498704681250816    ///// to distract from //////
BIDEN (last week): &quot;I sold a lot of state secrets and a lot of very important things...&quot;   https://twitter.com/rncresearch/status/1673436267634388992]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Smith and DOJ just leaked the Trump audio tape to CNN. <a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1673498704681250816" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1673498704681250816</a>    ///// to distract from //////<br />
BIDEN (last week): &#8220;I sold a lot of state secrets and a lot of very important things&#8230;&#8221;   <a href="https://twitter.com/rncresearch/status/1673436267634388992" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/rncresearch/status/1673436267634388992</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peter Zeihan on Russian coup:
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;As the saying goes, Russia is a mystery wrapped in an enigma inside a tuna salad sandwich that&#039;s gone off.&lt;/b&gt;

Apparently the guy who launched the coup, &lt;b&gt;Yevgeny Prigozin&lt;/b&gt;, the leader of the Russian paramilitary group Wagner, &lt;b&gt;was only kidding. Whether his effort was a political stunt or negotiation tactic, it&#039;s all over. It was fun while it lasted.&lt;/b&gt;

More at:

--Peter Zeihan, &quot;The Russia Coup Part 4: Psych!&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYnzWPUZ04&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Zeihan on Russian coup:<br />
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<p><i><b>As the saying goes, Russia is a mystery wrapped in an enigma inside a tuna salad sandwich that&#8217;s gone off.</b></p>
<p>Apparently the guy who launched the coup, <b>Yevgeny Prigozin</b>, the leader of the Russian paramilitary group Wagner, <b>was only kidding. Whether his effort was a political stunt or negotiation tactic, it&#8217;s all over. It was fun while it lasted.</b></p>
<p>More at:</p>
<p>&#8211;Peter Zeihan, &#8220;The Russia Coup Part 4: Psych!&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYnzWPUZ04" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYnzWPUZ04</a></i></p>
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