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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 19:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oligonicella:

I sometimes do the &quot;two sleeps&quot; thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oligonicella:</p>
<p>I sometimes do the &#8220;two sleeps&#8221; thing.</p>
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		By: Oligonicella		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oligonicella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sleep:

One habit which has not quite died out is the &#039;two sleeps&#039;.  If you awaken during the night, get up and do something.  I usually go to my writing.  It usually needs editing but it also many times produces interesting twists.  

This used to be common, but that was when people went to bed around dusk.  

@Cov:  If it was indeed a bio-weapon, it backfired.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sleep:</p>
<p>One habit which has not quite died out is the &#8216;two sleeps&#8217;.  If you awaken during the night, get up and do something.  I usually go to my writing.  It usually needs editing but it also many times produces interesting twists.  </p>
<p>This used to be common, but that was when people went to bed around dusk.  </p>
<p>@Cov:  If it was indeed a bio-weapon, it backfired.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that it is very important for as many people as possible to see this recent, short, but very hard-hitting presentation on the origins of COVID by Dr. David Martin, Ph.D. presented at the European Union’s Third International Covid Summit, in which he presents a lot of information–all of which he says he has documented–that I had never heard before, and in which he contends that, “Covid-19 was an act of biological warfare perpetrated on the human race.” *

Apparently lots of controversy about him, judging from a cursory search for his name coupled with Covid, with lots of mainstream sources alleging that he is, FWIW, spreading “misinformation” about Covid.

Seems to me that in the intense propaganda war over COVID, a lot of people who were charged with and who were often penalized in various ways by various authorities and MSM outlets, because they were supposedly “spreading misinformation about Covid” turned out to have been right about it.

* See https://rumble.com/v2m0enk-dr-david-martin-european-parliament-international-covid-summit-iii-5-3-23.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is very important for as many people as possible to see this recent, short, but very hard-hitting presentation on the origins of COVID by Dr. David Martin, Ph.D. presented at the European Union’s Third International Covid Summit, in which he presents a lot of information–all of which he says he has documented–that I had never heard before, and in which he contends that, “Covid-19 was an act of biological warfare perpetrated on the human race.” *</p>
<p>Apparently lots of controversy about him, judging from a cursory search for his name coupled with Covid, with lots of mainstream sources alleging that he is, FWIW, spreading “misinformation” about Covid.</p>
<p>Seems to me that in the intense propaganda war over COVID, a lot of people who were charged with and who were often penalized in various ways by various authorities and MSM outlets, because they were supposedly “spreading misinformation about Covid” turned out to have been right about it.</p>
<p>* See <a href="https://rumble.com/v2m0enk-dr-david-martin-european-parliament-international-covid-summit-iii-5-3-23.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://rumble.com/v2m0enk-dr-david-martin-european-parliament-international-covid-summit-iii-5-3-23.html</a></p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tried the 4-7-8 breathing last night, and was unable to continue it. So I switched to 4-8 (4 in, 8 out) and that was a more comfortable rate for me. And, as usual, when I wake up in the middle of the night the most effective thing for me is to adjust my sleeping temperature (add or remove covers).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the 4-7-8 breathing last night, and was unable to continue it. So I switched to 4-8 (4 in, 8 out) and that was a more comfortable rate for me. And, as usual, when I wake up in the middle of the night the most effective thing for me is to adjust my sleeping temperature (add or remove covers).</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 03:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you are counting all of these 4-7-8 seconds, how is that really any different from counting sheep? 
And this cycle is a nominal 19 seconds, or approx. 3 respirations per minute. A lot slower than &quot;normal&quot;, even granting you want to lower your heart rate as well.

&quot;A normal respiratory rate for adults is between 12 to 18 breaths per minute.&quot;
My medical notes say I have a resting rate of 16 bpm, or about 4 seconds per breath, or maybe 2 sec. in and 2 sec. out. And I gather that is normal to low, but seemingly lower than my wife&#039;s rate.

I went looking for something to show what the relative rates for men and women are,  and could not quickly find anything useful for a non-medical laymen. Lot of discussion on male vs. female lung development and relative sizes of airways, etc., but nothing simple or explicit about breathing rates.
Anybody know/find a better source of info on this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are counting all of these 4-7-8 seconds, how is that really any different from counting sheep?<br />
And this cycle is a nominal 19 seconds, or approx. 3 respirations per minute. A lot slower than &#8220;normal&#8221;, even granting you want to lower your heart rate as well.</p>
<p>&#8220;A normal respiratory rate for adults is between 12 to 18 breaths per minute.&#8221;<br />
My medical notes say I have a resting rate of 16 bpm, or about 4 seconds per breath, or maybe 2 sec. in and 2 sec. out. And I gather that is normal to low, but seemingly lower than my wife&#8217;s rate.</p>
<p>I went looking for something to show what the relative rates for men and women are,  and could not quickly find anything useful for a non-medical laymen. Lot of discussion on male vs. female lung development and relative sizes of airways, etc., but nothing simple or explicit about breathing rates.<br />
Anybody know/find a better source of info on this?</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 01:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Huxley: Are you serious about the benadryl?&lt;/i&gt;

Watt:

Sure. I don&#039;t notice much effect aside from reducing allergies and causing drowsiness. Sometimes I take a melatonin instead. 

People seem to have different reactions. I had a friend who claimed benadryl got him mildly high.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Huxley: Are you serious about the benadryl?</i></p>
<p>Watt:</p>
<p>Sure. I don&#8217;t notice much effect aside from reducing allergies and causing drowsiness. Sometimes I take a melatonin instead. </p>
<p>People seem to have different reactions. I had a friend who claimed benadryl got him mildly high.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685688</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 01:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BRAND NEW THREAD up on Russia posted by Neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAND NEW THREAD up on Russia posted by Neo.</p>
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		By: Cornflour		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornflour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 00:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know next to nothing about Russian history and politics, but since the invasian of Ukraine, I&#039;ve been a regular reader of Kamil Galeev&#039;s Twitter feed.  He always has something interesting to say.

Here&#039;s his prediction:

&quot;What is happening in Russia?  The mutiny is real. It is also unlikely to succeed. Most probable outcome is:

1. The mutiny fails
2. The regime stands (for a few months)
3. Upon its suppression, regime becomes increasingly dysfunctional -&#062; falls&quot;

https://tinyurl.com/2ejhcwrd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know next to nothing about Russian history and politics, but since the invasian of Ukraine, I&#8217;ve been a regular reader of Kamil Galeev&#8217;s Twitter feed.  He always has something interesting to say.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s his prediction:</p>
<p>&#8220;What is happening in Russia?  The mutiny is real. It is also unlikely to succeed. Most probable outcome is:</p>
<p>1. The mutiny fails<br />
2. The regime stands (for a few months)<br />
3. Upon its suppression, regime becomes increasingly dysfunctional -&gt; falls&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/2ejhcwrd" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tinyurl.com/2ejhcwrd</a></p>
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		By: Watt		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685683</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Watt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 00:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a useful open thread.

Kate: I am also going to try the 478 technique.

Huxley: Are you serious about the benadryl? That ruins my day more than lack of sleep - even if I take it at bedtime and not at 2-3 am. Doxylamine succinate (sominex or generic) is somewhat better in terms of hangover.

He only touched on it in passing, but I would think you should avoid turning on a light. I can find my way to the bathroom in the dark OK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a useful open thread.</p>
<p>Kate: I am also going to try the 478 technique.</p>
<p>Huxley: Are you serious about the benadryl? That ruins my day more than lack of sleep &#8211; even if I take it at bedtime and not at 2-3 am. Doxylamine succinate (sominex or generic) is somewhat better in terms of hangover.</p>
<p>He only touched on it in passing, but I would think you should avoid turning on a light. I can find my way to the bathroom in the dark OK.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/23/open-thread-6-23-23/#comment-2685682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2023 00:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Military vehicles on the streets of Moscow, not a lone T-34/85?  Oh, that was on May 9, 2023 commemorating the Soviet victory in The Great Patriotic War, not a Special Military Operation (SMO).  The SMO has been particularly foggy for not being a war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Military vehicles on the streets of Moscow, not a lone T-34/85?  Oh, that was on May 9, 2023 commemorating the Soviet victory in The Great Patriotic War, not a Special Military Operation (SMO).  The SMO has been particularly foggy for not being a war.</p>
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