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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan—Avi Loeb, I expect, is a pretty shrewd and savvy guy, someone who knows that whoever donated the funds for this expedition would like to see some results justifying his donation.

Thus, it looks to me as if there is a little hype going on here.

So, they’ve found a small, couple of inches long, flat piece of metal, which may be anomalous, and are teasing that this might possibly be of extraterrestrial origin—stay tuned for more test results.

I’m hoping that—if there is something to be found—they are going to find something a lot more substantial than this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan—Avi Loeb, I expect, is a pretty shrewd and savvy guy, someone who knows that whoever donated the funds for this expedition would like to see some results justifying his donation.</p>
<p>Thus, it looks to me as if there is a little hype going on here.</p>
<p>So, they’ve found a small, couple of inches long, flat piece of metal, which may be anomalous, and are teasing that this might possibly be of extraterrestrial origin—stay tuned for more test results.</p>
<p>I’m hoping that—if there is something to be found—they are going to find something a lot more substantial than this.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 05:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For Snow on Pine: 
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/06/20/did-the-galileo-project-just-find-the-remains-of-an-interstellar-craft-n559344]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Snow on Pine:<br />
<a href="https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/06/20/did-the-galileo-project-just-find-the-remains-of-an-interstellar-craft-n559344" rel="nofollow ugc">https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/06/20/did-the-galileo-project-just-find-the-remains-of-an-interstellar-craft-n559344</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685335</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Post from Ace on the Durham hearing. 
https://ace.mu.nu/archives/404994.php
&lt;blockquote&gt;Durham: James Comey Hid the Fact That the RussiaGate Allegations Were a Political Op Concocted by Hillary Clinton From the Agents He Assigned to Investigate The Lies
Via Hot Air.
&lt;blockquote&gt;JORDAN: Can you tell the committee what happened when you took that referral memo, and shared it with one of those agents?
DURHAM: We interviewed the first supervisor on the Crossfire investigation, the operational person. We showed him the intelligence information. He indicated he had never seen it before. He immediately became emotional, and got up and left the room with his lawyer, spent some time in the hallway, came back.

JORDAN: He was ticked off, wasn&#039;t he? He was ticked off because this was something he should have had as an agent on the case. This was important information that the director of the FBI kept from the people doing the investigation.

DURHAM: The information was kept from them.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Democrats are defending all of this, and smearing Durham&#039;s reputation. It&#039;s literally their one move.

More of that at the link.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/06/21/durham-you-better-believe-obama-biden-and-comey-knew-that-this-was-a-hillary-dirty-trick-n559527]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post from Ace on the Durham hearing.<br />
<a href="https://ace.mu.nu/archives/404994.php" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ace.mu.nu/archives/404994.php</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Durham: James Comey Hid the Fact That the RussiaGate Allegations Were a Political Op Concocted by Hillary Clinton From the Agents He Assigned to Investigate The Lies<br />
Via Hot Air.</p>
<blockquote><p>JORDAN: Can you tell the committee what happened when you took that referral memo, and shared it with one of those agents?<br />
DURHAM: We interviewed the first supervisor on the Crossfire investigation, the operational person. We showed him the intelligence information. He indicated he had never seen it before. He immediately became emotional, and got up and left the room with his lawyer, spent some time in the hallway, came back.</p>
<p>JORDAN: He was ticked off, wasn&#8217;t he? He was ticked off because this was something he should have had as an agent on the case. This was important information that the director of the FBI kept from the people doing the investigation.</p>
<p>DURHAM: The information was kept from them.
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<p>Democrats are defending all of this, and smearing Durham&#8217;s reputation. It&#8217;s literally their one move.</p>
<p>More of that at the link.
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<p><a href="https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/06/21/durham-you-better-believe-obama-biden-and-comey-knew-that-this-was-a-hillary-dirty-trick-n559527" rel="nofollow ugc">https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/06/21/durham-you-better-believe-obama-biden-and-comey-knew-that-this-was-a-hillary-dirty-trick-n559527</a></p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685333</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ever closer to Sodom &#038; Gomorrah: 

South Boston drag party featured &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/19/four-kids-found-hidden-in-filthy-south-boston-apartment-where-a-man-died/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Kids, drugs, sex toys, dead man&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

No bestiality? Or would that crowd the headline? Having kids present has become a must. Nice touch with the dead guy - like a sprig of parsley.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever closer to Sodom &amp; Gomorrah: </p>
<p>South Boston drag party featured <a href="https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/06/19/four-kids-found-hidden-in-filthy-south-boston-apartment-where-a-man-died/" rel="nofollow ugc"><b>Kids, drugs, sex toys, dead man</b></a></p>
<p>No bestiality? Or would that crowd the headline? Having kids present has become a must. Nice touch with the dead guy &#8211; like a sprig of parsley.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685327</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW the video is an abbreviated narration of the Wikipedia article, which has more information about Worth and his House of Fashion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Frederick_Worth]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW the video is an abbreviated narration of the Wikipedia article, which has more information about Worth and his House of Fashion.<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Frederick_Worth" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Frederick_Worth</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The video narrator quotes a disappointed client who saw her 300 franc dresses jump to 2200 (not Euros, as rightly noted; she probably meant to say Worth had &quot;francs valued in Euros to emphasize his poverty at the beginning).
A commenter adds:
@brucetidwell7715
1 day ago
The amounts of money being spent are just mind boggling. Twenty to thirty gowns at $10-15K a piece in today&#039;s money, while a first class trip on a trans Atlantic ocean liner could cost another $20K+ each way. With the voyage taking 5 or 6 days to get there, women didn&#039;t just pop into town for the weekend, they would stay for a month or so, in top drawer luxury hotels, diners in the best restaurants, theater and opera tickets. Shopping for clothes could end up costing upwards of half a million dollars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video narrator quotes a disappointed client who saw her 300 franc dresses jump to 2200 (not Euros, as rightly noted; she probably meant to say Worth had &#8220;francs valued in Euros to emphasize his poverty at the beginning).<br />
A commenter adds:<br />
@brucetidwell7715<br />
1 day ago<br />
The amounts of money being spent are just mind boggling. Twenty to thirty gowns at $10-15K a piece in today&#8217;s money, while a first class trip on a trans Atlantic ocean liner could cost another $20K+ each way. With the voyage taking 5 or 6 days to get there, women didn&#8217;t just pop into town for the weekend, they would stay for a month or so, in top drawer luxury hotels, diners in the best restaurants, theater and opera tickets. Shopping for clothes could end up costing upwards of half a million dollars.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 22:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin:  Wonder what Occam might say…

  Perhaps ...   &#039;They are all introverts and haven&#039;t traveled all this way to hook up with idiots like us&#039; ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin:  Wonder what Occam might say…</p>
<p>  Perhaps &#8230;   &#8216;They are all introverts and haven&#8217;t traveled all this way to hook up with idiots like us&#8217; ?</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[True enough.
(Maybe they&#039;re just shy. More likely is that they&#039;re totally principled and have vowed to uphold the Prime Directive on pain of death for their entire family/tribe/city/planet.... Or maybe their credo is &quot;Curiosity killed the cat&quot;....and/or &quot;Let sleeping dogs lie&quot;, etc.... Or maybe curiosity has been bred out of them through evolutionary development; IOW all the curious among them received Darwin Prizes...  though it&#039;s far more likely that they don&#039;t even HAVE to be curious because they simply...KNOW, INTUIT, have senses that we cannot even imagine...Or maybe they&#039;re very chauvinistic and find us, let&#039;s call it &quot;unsavory&quot;, or maybe....oh who knows? Wonder what Occam might say...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough.<br />
(Maybe they&#8217;re just shy. More likely is that they&#8217;re totally principled and have vowed to uphold the Prime Directive on pain of death for their entire family/tribe/city/planet&#8230;. Or maybe their credo is &#8220;Curiosity killed the cat&#8221;&#8230;.and/or &#8220;Let sleeping dogs lie&#8221;, etc&#8230;. Or maybe curiosity has been bred out of them through evolutionary development; IOW all the curious among them received Darwin Prizes&#8230;  though it&#8217;s far more likely that they don&#8217;t even HAVE to be curious because they simply&#8230;KNOW, INTUIT, have senses that we cannot even imagine&#8230;Or maybe they&#8217;re very chauvinistic and find us, let&#8217;s call it &#8220;unsavory&#8221;, or maybe&#8230;.oh who knows? Wonder what Occam might say&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry Meislin—That’s the fun of science fiction, all of the possibilities, it’s just that some of these possibilities are much better outcomes for us humans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Meislin—That’s the fun of science fiction, all of the possibilities, it’s just that some of these possibilities are much better outcomes for us humans.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/21/open-thread-6-21-23/#comment-2685287</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;In effect, we&#039;re jumping up and down and waving our arms...and yelling, &quot;here we are&quot;...&#039;

Ever occur to you that just maybe all those aliens out there are, at heart, Groucho Marxists...?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7313710-i-refuse-to-join-any-club-that-would-have-me]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;In effect, we&#8217;re jumping up and down and waving our arms&#8230;and yelling, &#8220;here we are&#8221;&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>Ever occur to you that just maybe all those aliens out there are, at heart, Groucho Marxists&#8230;?<br />
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7313710-i-refuse-to-join-any-club-that-would-have-me" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7313710-i-refuse-to-join-any-club-that-would-have-me</a></p>
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