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		By: Ben David		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BigD - Theodore Dalrymple stated it with less, uhhhh, vitriol, than Razorfist:

Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.
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https://heidelblog.net/2015/02/the-purpose-of-political-correctness-is-to-humiliate/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigD &#8211; Theodore Dalrymple stated it with less, uhhhh, vitriol, than Razorfist:</p>
<p>Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.<br />
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 04:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Hunter Biden&#039;s laptop contents [REDACTED]

The Hunter Biden Id is an Id which is fascinated with itself:

https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/index.php?/categories

I doubt it will scar anyone for life or even more than ten minutes, but it is truly a raw bizarre historical tour. I suspect one could reconstruct the Biden years on their basis.

These are the Trump footprints Democrats expected to find in their pursuit of the Bad Orange Man,. 

But Lo! The footprints are their own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Hunter Biden&#8217;s laptop contents [REDACTED]</p>
<p>The Hunter Biden Id is an Id which is fascinated with itself:</p>
<p><a href="https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/index.php?/categories" rel="nofollow ugc">https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/index.php?/categories</a></p>
<p>I doubt it will scar anyone for life or even more than ten minutes, but it is truly a raw bizarre historical tour. I suspect one could reconstruct the Biden years on their basis.</p>
<p>These are the Trump footprints Democrats expected to find in their pursuit of the Bad Orange Man,. </p>
<p>But Lo! The footprints are their own.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684198</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 03:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Reverse-engineering UFOs

Snow on Pine:

&quot;The Day After Roswell&quot; (1997) by United States Army Lt. Colonel Philip J. Corso was a tell-all memoir of exactly that. It made the NY Times bestseller list for several weeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell

Corso really was a Lt. Col who worked for the people he said he did. He was part of an official effort to reengineer tech from the Russians and other foreign sources. Though not UFO-foreign.

Who knows? Plenty of people make such claims. Something IMO is going on, but I can&#039;t tell what. I was excited for years that The Story Was About To Bust Wide Open.

It hasn&#039;t ... yet. Maybe it will. 

But I&#039;m not waiting up nights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Reverse-engineering UFOs</p>
<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Day After Roswell&#8221; (1997) by United States Army Lt. Colonel Philip J. Corso was a tell-all memoir of exactly that. It made the NY Times bestseller list for several weeks.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After_Roswell</a></p>
<p>Corso really was a Lt. Col who worked for the people he said he did. He was part of an official effort to reengineer tech from the Russians and other foreign sources. Though not UFO-foreign.</p>
<p>Who knows? Plenty of people make such claims. Something IMO is going on, but I can&#8217;t tell what. I was excited for years that The Story Was About To Bust Wide Open.</p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t &#8230; yet. Maybe it will. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not waiting up nights.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684196</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 02:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Carlotta Zambelli

Maybe it&#039;s the French, but I find myself so moved by beauty these days.

The last time I saw my hippie uncle, who once went by the name Peter Pan, he lent me his collection of family photographs so I could scan them for digital posterity.

Which I did. Among them were some professional photographs of my grandmother as a young 20s flapper. Those photographs reminded me of the stills of Zambelli.

I  strongly recommend the SilverFast software for scanning photographs, especially old photographs. It made a big difference in speed and quality from generic scanning software.

I wonder what unblocked pointe shoes are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Carlotta Zambelli</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s the French, but I find myself so moved by beauty these days.</p>
<p>The last time I saw my hippie uncle, who once went by the name Peter Pan, he lent me his collection of family photographs so I could scan them for digital posterity.</p>
<p>Which I did. Among them were some professional photographs of my grandmother as a young 20s flapper. Those photographs reminded me of the stills of Zambelli.</p>
<p>I  strongly recommend the SilverFast software for scanning photographs, especially old photographs. It made a big difference in speed and quality from generic scanning software.</p>
<p>I wonder what unblocked pointe shoes are.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684189</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2023 01:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A recent news story--admittedly in the English newspaper, The Daily Mail, which tends to run sensational stories--talks about a downed UFO that our military tried to investigate.

They hooked a recovery vehicle to the outside of the craft, and when they pulled on it a wedge shaped portion of the UFO where the attachment was made was pulled out, and it looked as if this UFO was meant to come apart in this fashion.

Moreover, when someone entered the small, wedge shaped part of the craft he discovered that the inside was as big as several football fields i.e. that the inside of this small volume was far larger than it&#039;s outside dimensions.

Then, the investigator started to get dizzy, and after he exited the craft he found that, while subjectively he experienced being inside of the craft for only a only few minutes, he found that outside four hours had passed.*

I am not a scientist, but it does seem to me that these two pieces of information are very useful clues about the forces involved in how this UFO operates. 

P.S.  Somewhere along the line I&#039;ve read science fiction stories which had alien spaceships which had these two characteristics, particularly a couple of stories in which the interior dimensions of a spaceship were gigantic, while the outside dimensions were much smaller.

So, could these ideas be some other nuggets of truth which have leaked out of these crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs, or, could they perhaps even be some nuggets of the truth deliberately released as part of the overall rogue government/contractor organization&#039;s disinformation operation?  

*  See  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent news story&#8211;admittedly in the English newspaper, The Daily Mail, which tends to run sensational stories&#8211;talks about a downed UFO that our military tried to investigate.</p>
<p>They hooked a recovery vehicle to the outside of the craft, and when they pulled on it a wedge shaped portion of the UFO where the attachment was made was pulled out, and it looked as if this UFO was meant to come apart in this fashion.</p>
<p>Moreover, when someone entered the small, wedge shaped part of the craft he discovered that the inside was as big as several football fields i.e. that the inside of this small volume was far larger than it&#8217;s outside dimensions.</p>
<p>Then, the investigator started to get dizzy, and after he exited the craft he found that, while subjectively he experienced being inside of the craft for only a only few minutes, he found that outside four hours had passed.*</p>
<p>I am not a scientist, but it does seem to me that these two pieces of information are very useful clues about the forces involved in how this UFO operates. </p>
<p>P.S.  Somewhere along the line I&#8217;ve read science fiction stories which had alien spaceships which had these two characteristics, particularly a couple of stories in which the interior dimensions of a spaceship were gigantic, while the outside dimensions were much smaller.</p>
<p>So, could these ideas be some other nuggets of truth which have leaked out of these crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs, or, could they perhaps even be some nuggets of the truth deliberately released as part of the overall rogue government/contractor organization&#8217;s disinformation operation?  </p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html</a></p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes the only actual evidence from a dominion whistleblower, was discounted, instead opinions by people who had no inside knowledge was taken as gospel]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes the only actual evidence from a dominion whistleblower, was discounted, instead opinions by people who had no inside knowledge was taken as gospel</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684177</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Om, the Gregoire cheat was in 2004. Mail balloting was passed in 2011. Some WA counties use Dominion machines to count the mail in ballots. The certification was done by the only Republican in state-wide office who just happen to pull out an overnight win in the last election. Now she works in DC for the Biden Admin on election integrity. I don&#039;t know if her Army husband was posted to DC or retired or what. I read the Dominion certification documents. They are crap. I wouldn&#039;t have accepted them from an intern.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om, the Gregoire cheat was in 2004. Mail balloting was passed in 2011. Some WA counties use Dominion machines to count the mail in ballots. The certification was done by the only Republican in state-wide office who just happen to pull out an overnight win in the last election. Now she works in DC for the Biden Admin on election integrity. I don&#8217;t know if her Army husband was posted to DC or retired or what. I read the Dominion certification documents. They are crap. I wouldn&#8217;t have accepted them from an intern.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684174</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 23:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Florida can always use more cops... and they&#039;ll like the FL winters.

The Boston City Council narrowly passed a $4.2 billion operating budget that cuts roughly $31 million from the police department. The spending plan was approved Wednesday via a 7-5 vote, and will now be submitted to Mayor Michelle Wu, who can choose to veto or accept the amendments the Council made]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida can always use more cops&#8230; and they&#8217;ll like the FL winters.</p>
<p>The Boston City Council narrowly passed a $4.2 billion operating budget that cuts roughly $31 million from the police department. The spending plan was approved Wednesday via a 7-5 vote, and will now be submitted to Mayor Michelle Wu, who can choose to veto or accept the amendments the Council made</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684173</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 22:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Concerning &quot;Why does propaganda work?&quot;

 OUR government is now ALLOWED to CREATE PROPAGANDA tailored specifically for U.S. public consumption, using ANY media as it sees fit, while remaining ANONYMOUS as to the source of the material being reported.  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Smith-Mundt+modernization+act+2012&#038;va=b&#038;t=hr&#038;ia=web]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning &#8220;Why does propaganda work?&#8221;</p>
<p> OUR government is now ALLOWED to CREATE PROPAGANDA tailored specifically for U.S. public consumption, using ANY media as it sees fit, while remaining ANONYMOUS as to the source of the material being reported.  <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Smith-Mundt+modernization+act+2012&#038;va=b&#038;t=hr&#038;ia=web" rel="nofollow ugc">https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Smith-Mundt+modernization+act+2012&#038;va=b&#038;t=hr&#038;ia=web</a></p>
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		By: BigD		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/14/open-thread-6-14-23/#comment-2684163</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 22:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
About two and a half-years ago, Neo took a stab asking “Why does propaganda work?” https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/01/14/why-does-propaganda-work/
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Personally &lt;a href=&quot;https://youtu.be/Z3GV65jLUFg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; I prefer Razorfist&#039;s explanation of it better&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
About two and a half-years ago, Neo took a stab asking “Why does propaganda work?” <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/01/14/why-does-propaganda-work/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/01/14/why-does-propaganda-work/</a>
</p></blockquote>
<p>Personally <a href="https://youtu.be/Z3GV65jLUFg" rel="nofollow ugc"> I prefer Razorfist&#8217;s explanation of it better</a></p>
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