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		By: Xylourgos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 04:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks AF. I hadn&#039;t seen that. But it does get one to thinking....what would they be doing differently if they want to exterminate our civilization in the long run?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks AF. I hadn&#8217;t seen that. But it does get one to thinking&#8230;.what would they be doing differently if they want to exterminate our civilization in the long run?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/09/open-thread-6-9-23/#comment-2683466</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 04:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Xylourgos on June 9, 2023 at 12:38 pm said:
&quot;Perhaps, as some say, that extraterrestrials are here and living among us that they have taken over the body of Joe Biden and his advisors. This would be a plausible explanation for the purposeful destruction of every aspect of the USA.&quot;

Are you channeling Sarah Hoyt today?
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2023/06/09/the-war-on-humans/
&lt;blockquote&gt;If our current “elites” were Lizard Aliens, bent on destroying us before we move off planet, what would they be doing differently?

Go on. Think about it. I’ll wait.

Bet you that you didn’t come up with anything. Or at least anything that doesn’t go “But then again.”

Oh, you might have come up with some reason they’re not lizards. The lizard is there for funsies. They seem very upset about a warming world, so perhaps they’re ice moles or something. All the same —

It is not my point to argue that our self-proclaimed better are aliens. I mean, sometimes I look at it and go “Whoa, what are the chances they wouldn’t do something beneficial to humans at least once, by accident?” But then again, you know? That’s like Biden never hires anyone who doesn’t turn out to be — literally — some form of criminal loon. Not on purpose (probably) but because of the water he swims in and what he is. So, it’s entirely possible the “elites” are just human haters without being aliens. Which is far less fun. But more likely. Though I think the time for “far fetched conspiracy theory” to become “Absolutely reality” is now three days or less.

Anyvay…. moving right along, the place where “they’re aliens and trying to exterminate us” is most obvious is the proliferation of genders.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Long discussion follows, mostly what one would expect from Sarah &#038; commenters, but I likes this observation:

James the lesser says: June 9, 2023 at 7:24 pm
&quot;I suppose Uncle Screwtape can look like a lizard if he wants to.&quot;

Even C. S. Lewis would have trouble writing an updated version of &quot;The Screwtape Letters&quot; today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Xylourgos on June 9, 2023 at 12:38 pm said:<br />
&#8220;Perhaps, as some say, that extraterrestrials are here and living among us that they have taken over the body of Joe Biden and his advisors. This would be a plausible explanation for the purposeful destruction of every aspect of the USA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you channeling Sarah Hoyt today?<br />
<a href="https://accordingtohoyt.com/2023/06/09/the-war-on-humans/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://accordingtohoyt.com/2023/06/09/the-war-on-humans/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>If our current “elites” were Lizard Aliens, bent on destroying us before we move off planet, what would they be doing differently?</p>
<p>Go on. Think about it. I’ll wait.</p>
<p>Bet you that you didn’t come up with anything. Or at least anything that doesn’t go “But then again.”</p>
<p>Oh, you might have come up with some reason they’re not lizards. The lizard is there for funsies. They seem very upset about a warming world, so perhaps they’re ice moles or something. All the same —</p>
<p>It is not my point to argue that our self-proclaimed better are aliens. I mean, sometimes I look at it and go “Whoa, what are the chances they wouldn’t do something beneficial to humans at least once, by accident?” But then again, you know? That’s like Biden never hires anyone who doesn’t turn out to be — literally — some form of criminal loon. Not on purpose (probably) but because of the water he swims in and what he is. So, it’s entirely possible the “elites” are just human haters without being aliens. Which is far less fun. But more likely. Though I think the time for “far fetched conspiracy theory” to become “Absolutely reality” is now three days or less.</p>
<p>Anyvay…. moving right along, the place where “they’re aliens and trying to exterminate us” is most obvious is the proliferation of genders.
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<p>Long discussion follows, mostly what one would expect from Sarah &amp; commenters, but I likes this observation:</p>
<p>James the lesser says: June 9, 2023 at 7:24 pm<br />
&#8220;I suppose Uncle Screwtape can look like a lizard if he wants to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even C. S. Lewis would have trouble writing an updated version of &#8220;The Screwtape Letters&#8221; today.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 03:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snow on Pine:

OK. 

But you were the one who linked Avi Loeb as a &quot;well known and highly credentialed Harvard Astronomer.&quot;

&quot;Not a saint&quot; covers a lot of ground including self-aggrandizing player posing as  Galileo being persecuted by the Vatican.

As A. Collier points out, if you are the Head of the Harvard Astronomy Dept, you are not a feisty outsider challenging the Establishment. You are the Establishment.

It reminds me of Michelle Obama&#039;s self-serving claim that they were Speaking Truth to Power.

Spare me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snow on Pine:</p>
<p>OK. </p>
<p>But you were the one who linked Avi Loeb as a &#8220;well known and highly credentialed Harvard Astronomer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Not a saint&#8221; covers a lot of ground including self-aggrandizing player posing as  Galileo being persecuted by the Vatican.</p>
<p>As A. Collier points out, if you are the Head of the Harvard Astronomy Dept, you are not a feisty outsider challenging the Establishment. You are the Establishment.</p>
<p>It reminds me of Michelle Obama&#8217;s self-serving claim that they were Speaking Truth to Power.</p>
<p>Spare me.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 03:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Huxley—As an undergraduate I had a first row seat to witness academic politics at work and, from reputation, and from what I myself have seen, academic politics are far more vicious than ordinary politics.

So, I’m not expecting someone who has risen to become the head of a department at Harvard to be anything but someone who is very adept at those politics, and not a saint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley—As an undergraduate I had a first row seat to witness academic politics at work and, from reputation, and from what I myself have seen, academic politics are far more vicious than ordinary politics.</p>
<p>So, I’m not expecting someone who has risen to become the head of a department at Harvard to be anything but someone who is very adept at those politics, and not a saint.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 02:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Avi Loeb, Aliens

acollierastro posted a takedown of Avi Loeb as something of a crackpot or at least a cynical scientist who plays the game well. 

She compares him unfavorably to Luis Alvarez who, among other things, won a Nobel Prize and later led the way to the asteroid collision theory of dinosaur extinction.

--&quot;harvard &#038; aliens &#038; crackpots: a disambiguation of Avi Loeb&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI

A. Collier is persuasive. 

However, she doesn&#039;t come to terms with the fact that Loeb is not just some common garden-variety crackpot with a perpetual motion machine, but a scientist who scaled the heights of academia to become the head of the Harvard Astronomy Dept., a position presumably coveted by anyone with a Ph.D in astronomy.

It seems academia is rife with people who climb to the top with little commitment to truth and fair play.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Avi Loeb, Aliens</p>
<p>acollierastro posted a takedown of Avi Loeb as something of a crackpot or at least a cynical scientist who plays the game well. </p>
<p>She compares him unfavorably to Luis Alvarez who, among other things, won a Nobel Prize and later led the way to the asteroid collision theory of dinosaur extinction.</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;harvard &amp; aliens &amp; crackpots: a disambiguation of Avi Loeb&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI</a></p>
<p>A. Collier is persuasive. </p>
<p>However, she doesn&#8217;t come to terms with the fact that Loeb is not just some common garden-variety crackpot with a perpetual motion machine, but a scientist who scaled the heights of academia to become the head of the Harvard Astronomy Dept., a position presumably coveted by anyone with a Ph.D in astronomy.</p>
<p>It seems academia is rife with people who climb to the top with little commitment to truth and fair play.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  Air Force Whistleblower Grusch&#039;s claims about UFOs--

Here is a compilation of followup material from NewsNation, out today, about the claims of AF Intelligence official David Grusch regarding UFOs, this compilation including the words of former Astronauts, and particularly a long section featuring former Astronaut Edgar Mitchell (one I&#039;ve never seen before), as he very calmly and at some length confirms the situation with regards to UFOs as being just as Grusch is saying it is.*

*  See  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSY0f3HTtKY]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Air Force Whistleblower Grusch&#8217;s claims about UFOs&#8211;</p>
<p>Here is a compilation of followup material from NewsNation, out today, about the claims of AF Intelligence official David Grusch regarding UFOs, this compilation including the words of former Astronauts, and particularly a long section featuring former Astronaut Edgar Mitchell (one I&#8217;ve never seen before), as he very calmly and at some length confirms the situation with regards to UFOs as being just as Grusch is saying it is.*</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSY0f3HTtKY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSY0f3HTtKY</a></p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 22:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have an abundance of cardinals here.  They are especially prevalent during the winter, but from their birdsong I can tell there are plenty here during the summer too.  Last winter my wife counted something like 22 of them, more males than females, on a single huge vitex (chaste tree) in our back yard - it has a feeder hanging from it.  But, what a sight!  It looked like a Christmas tree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have an abundance of cardinals here.  They are especially prevalent during the winter, but from their birdsong I can tell there are plenty here during the summer too.  Last winter my wife counted something like 22 of them, more males than females, on a single huge vitex (chaste tree) in our back yard &#8211; it has a feeder hanging from it.  But, what a sight!  It looked like a Christmas tree.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 20:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[F - the weakest case for optimism. But thanks for identifying the lowest bar.

37 counts, 31 on the virtually unenforceable Wilson Era Espionage Act! are in the unsealed Trump indictment.

Today, Rachel Madow on MSNBC has now endorsed a One Party America. Seriously. No joke. (Albeit, not in these words.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F &#8211; the weakest case for optimism. But thanks for identifying the lowest bar.</p>
<p>37 counts, 31 on the virtually unenforceable Wilson Era Espionage Act! are in the unsealed Trump indictment.</p>
<p>Today, Rachel Madow on MSNBC has now endorsed a One Party America. Seriously. No joke. (Albeit, not in these words.)</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 19:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In books, movies, and comics there are always criminal masterminds and, then, there&#039;s this guy --

See  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3900Nnwg0E]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In books, movies, and comics there are always criminal masterminds and, then, there&#8217;s this guy &#8212;</p>
<p>See  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3900Nnwg0E" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3900Nnwg0E</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stan:

Yes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stan:</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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