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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 01:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, that was fun.
 
Just ran across a YouTube video by someone with an English accent on how to extract opium from opium poppies—cooks it up in his kitchen, don’t ya know.

The result?

A black tarry substance which he says is very mild, and great for headaches and hangovers.

Great, just great!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that was fun.</p>
<p>Just ran across a YouTube video by someone with an English accent on how to extract opium from opium poppies—cooks it up in his kitchen, don’t ya know.</p>
<p>The result?</p>
<p>A black tarry substance which he says is very mild, and great for headaches and hangovers.</p>
<p>Great, just great!</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682799</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 13:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wherein Jen Psaki demonstrates---yet again---just what an intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt, pathetic, flabby and laughable flabby TOOL she is...not that anyone&#039;s forgotten, really...but still....
&quot;That&#039;s entertainment&quot;, I guess:
&quot;Gov. Sununu clashes with Jen Psaki over claims of collusion between Trump and Russia: &#039;It is nonsense&#039; &quot;---
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gov-sununu-clashes-jen-psaki-claims-collusion-between-trump-russia-nonsense

And the competition is indeed FIERCE!!...as KJP is most certainly NOT giving up without a fight!
&quot;Karine Jean-Pierre mocked for complaining migrant bussing puts strain on cities: &#039;Weapons-grade hypocrisy&#039;;
&quot; &#039;It’s dangerous and unacceptable because you’re actually putting a lot of pressure on these states and local areas,&#039; the press secretary said&quot;---
https://www.foxnews.com/media/karine-jean-pierre-mocked-complaining-migrant-bussing-puts-strain-cities-weapons-grade-hypocrisy

File under: &quot;We&#039;re the RESISTANCE and WE&#039;RE ALSO PERENNIAL VICTIMS, which GIVES US the RIGHT to PREVARICATE NON-STOP 24/7!!...What&#039;s that you say? WE&#039;RE the GOVERNMENT?? SO WHAT IF WE&#039;RE THE GOVERNMENT?? What does THAT have to do with anything??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wherein Jen Psaki demonstrates&#8212;yet again&#8212;just what an intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt, pathetic, flabby and laughable flabby TOOL she is&#8230;not that anyone&#8217;s forgotten, really&#8230;but still&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s entertainment&#8221;, I guess:<br />
&#8220;Gov. Sununu clashes with Jen Psaki over claims of collusion between Trump and Russia: &#8216;It is nonsense&#8217; &#8220;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/gov-sununu-clashes-jen-psaki-claims-collusion-between-trump-russia-nonsense" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/gov-sununu-clashes-jen-psaki-claims-collusion-between-trump-russia-nonsense</a></p>
<p>And the competition is indeed FIERCE!!&#8230;as KJP is most certainly NOT giving up without a fight!<br />
&#8220;Karine Jean-Pierre mocked for complaining migrant bussing puts strain on cities: &#8216;Weapons-grade hypocrisy&#8217;;<br />
&#8221; &#8216;It’s dangerous and unacceptable because you’re actually putting a lot of pressure on these states and local areas,&#8217; the press secretary said&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/karine-jean-pierre-mocked-complaining-migrant-bussing-puts-strain-cities-weapons-grade-hypocrisy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/karine-jean-pierre-mocked-complaining-migrant-bussing-puts-strain-cities-weapons-grade-hypocrisy</a></p>
<p>File under: &#8220;We&#8217;re the RESISTANCE and WE&#8217;RE ALSO PERENNIAL VICTIMS, which GIVES US the RIGHT to PREVARICATE NON-STOP 24/7!!&#8230;What&#8217;s that you say? WE&#8217;RE the GOVERNMENT?? SO WHAT IF WE&#8217;RE THE GOVERNMENT?? What does THAT have to do with anything??</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 08:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya&#039;ll listen up, now!
What happens when you invite a white supremacist to your talk show...
&quot;Sen Tim Scott draws boos during chaotic &#039;The View&#039; appearance, forcing host Whoopi Goldberg to apologize&quot;---
https://www.foxnews.com/media/tim-scott-draws-boos-during-chaotic-view-appearance-forcing-whoopi-goldberg-apologize]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8217;ll listen up, now!<br />
What happens when you invite a white supremacist to your talk show&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Sen Tim Scott draws boos during chaotic &#8216;The View&#8217; appearance, forcing host Whoopi Goldberg to apologize&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/media/tim-scott-draws-boos-during-chaotic-view-appearance-forcing-whoopi-goldberg-apologize" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/media/tim-scott-draws-boos-during-chaotic-view-appearance-forcing-whoopi-goldberg-apologize</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 05:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Two more things you don&#039;t need to know about French&lt;/b&gt;

*&lt;i&gt;jumeaux&lt;/i&gt; means &lt;i&gt;twins&lt;/i&gt; unless it means &lt;i&gt;binoculars&lt;/i&gt;.

*&lt;i&gt;hein&lt;/i&gt; means &lt;i&gt;huh&lt;/i&gt; even though the transliteration seems more like something a Nazi prison guard might say abruptly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Two more things you don&#8217;t need to know about French</b></p>
<p>*<i>jumeaux</i> means <i>twins</i> unless it means <i>binoculars</i>.</p>
<p>*<i>hein</i> means <i>huh</i> even though the transliteration seems more like something a Nazi prison guard might say abruptly.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682774</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 04:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Government surveillance cameras in the home

&lt;i&gt;It’s not just young people. The Patriot Act was seemingly embraced by most Americans and certainly made spying on every America easier. It seemed to me obvious that Americans were trading ‘security’ for ‘freedom’.&lt;/i&gt;

Brian E:

Yeah, but the Partiot Act, as a conservative lawyer friend explained to me, was essentially the RICO Act for the Mafia aimed at al-Qaeda. 

We can have a reasonable discussion of those pros and cons. 

But, my God, government surveillance cameras in one&#039;s own home? That&#039;s a whole &#039;nother level. 

And a fitting reprise to the oft-quoted: &quot;1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.&quot;

Yes, I must have my very own telescreen so Big Brother can keep a close eye on my private life!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Government surveillance cameras in the home</p>
<p><i>It’s not just young people. The Patriot Act was seemingly embraced by most Americans and certainly made spying on every America easier. It seemed to me obvious that Americans were trading ‘security’ for ‘freedom’.</i></p>
<p>Brian E:</p>
<p>Yeah, but the Partiot Act, as a conservative lawyer friend explained to me, was essentially the RICO Act for the Mafia aimed at al-Qaeda. </p>
<p>We can have a reasonable discussion of those pros and cons. </p>
<p>But, my God, government surveillance cameras in one&#8217;s own home? That&#8217;s a whole &#8216;nother level. </p>
<p>And a fitting reprise to the oft-quoted: &#8220;1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I must have my very own telescreen so Big Brother can keep a close eye on my private life!</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 02:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  UFOs and Grusch

Here&#039;s a detailed description of the vetting that reporter Leslie Kean did on Grusch and his allegations.

See  https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  UFOs and Grusch</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a detailed description of the vetting that reporter Leslie Kean did on Grusch and his allegations.</p>
<p>See  <a href="https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-founder-and-investigator-tim-mcmillan-part-1/</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682761</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 02:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:   UFOs and David Grusch&#039;s information.

According to Air force whistleblower David Grusch, the idea--that for many decades there has been a sort of Cold War going on between various nations of the world, each one trying to find and to retrieve crashed alien vehicles and their technology--that you sometimes see mentioned as a plot element in this or that Science Fiction story--is actually true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:   UFOs and David Grusch&#8217;s information.</p>
<p>According to Air force whistleblower David Grusch, the idea&#8211;that for many decades there has been a sort of Cold War going on between various nations of the world, each one trying to find and to retrieve crashed alien vehicles and their technology&#8211;that you sometimes see mentioned as a plot element in this or that Science Fiction story&#8211;is actually true.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 02:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Poirot

SHIREHOME, Rich Cook:

Curious what you may have thought of &quot;The ABC Murders&quot; (2018) TV series with John Malkovich as Poirot.

I don&#039;t know the Christie canon nor Suchet&#039;s work as Poirot, but I was intrigued. I sensed it was probably revisionist in some way(s). 

I am a Malkovich fan and he genuinely speaks French(!) though I have no idea whether he managed a proper Belgian accent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Poirot</p>
<p>SHIREHOME, Rich Cook:</p>
<p>Curious what you may have thought of &#8220;The ABC Murders&#8221; (2018) TV series with John Malkovich as Poirot.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the Christie canon nor Suchet&#8217;s work as Poirot, but I was intrigued. I sensed it was probably revisionist in some way(s). </p>
<p>I am a Malkovich fan and he genuinely speaks French(!) though I have no idea whether he managed a proper Belgian accent.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/06/05/open-thread-6-5-23/#comment-2682754</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 01:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: UFOs--

If you believe Air Force whistle blower David Grusch all the rumors were correct and, “we are not alone!”

Australian investigative Reporter Ross Coulthart, who has covered the UFO issue for many years, is teasing parts of his long interview with a very high level DOD whistleblower--just recently retired Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch--who says that his highest level clearances, positions, and assignments--with the National-Geospatial Intelligence Agency, the National Reconnaissance Office, and on the DOD&#039;s UAP Task Force--gave him access to knowledge about a wide array of secret, very highly classified UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs which have been going on for many decades and, moreover, that the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review, has cleared him to disclose what he is disclosing. 

Grusch has told Coulthart that he has already given 11 hours of secret closed door testimony, under oath, to Congress, specifying the retrievals which have been made, the retrieval and reverse engineering programs, their code names, their locations, and the names of those running these rogue programs.  

He says that we are definitely “not alone,” and that for many decades elements within the U.S. government have conducted crash retrievals of both parts of and intact vehicles which were created by NHIs, “non-human intelligences,” (note the plural here) and that, sometimes, alien bodies have also been collected.

He alleges that these programs were buried within other highly secret military and contractor programs, and that neither Congress nor the President were informed of the existence these programs, or what they had recovered and discovered, which is why he went with his information to the Intelligence Community Inspector General, and to Congress. 

Grusch says that paralleling these clandestine crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs was a deliberate disinformation campaign designed to make people dismiss UFOs as being a crazy illusion and, apparently, in the course of these actions many crimes—according to Coulthart many grave crimes--were committed.*


This story has also just been broken by reporter Leslie Kean (who coauthored the landmark 2017 New York Times story “Glowing Auras and “Black Money”: The Pentagon&#039;s  Mysterious UFO Program,” about the ATIP program and Lou Elizondo) and co-author Ralph Blumenthal, reporting on “The Debrief”**

*See   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjbFZT9_EM

And see also https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-retrieval-program/

**  See http://thedebrief.org

I predict that we will be hearing a lot more from Coulthart, and from and about David Grusch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: UFOs&#8211;</p>
<p>If you believe Air Force whistle blower David Grusch all the rumors were correct and, “we are not alone!”</p>
<p>Australian investigative Reporter Ross Coulthart, who has covered the UFO issue for many years, is teasing parts of his long interview with a very high level DOD whistleblower&#8211;just recently retired Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch&#8211;who says that his highest level clearances, positions, and assignments&#8211;with the National-Geospatial Intelligence Agency, the National Reconnaissance Office, and on the DOD&#8217;s UAP Task Force&#8211;gave him access to knowledge about a wide array of secret, very highly classified UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs which have been going on for many decades and, moreover, that the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review, has cleared him to disclose what he is disclosing. </p>
<p>Grusch has told Coulthart that he has already given 11 hours of secret closed door testimony, under oath, to Congress, specifying the retrievals which have been made, the retrieval and reverse engineering programs, their code names, their locations, and the names of those running these rogue programs.  </p>
<p>He says that we are definitely “not alone,” and that for many decades elements within the U.S. government have conducted crash retrievals of both parts of and intact vehicles which were created by NHIs, “non-human intelligences,” (note the plural here) and that, sometimes, alien bodies have also been collected.</p>
<p>He alleges that these programs were buried within other highly secret military and contractor programs, and that neither Congress nor the President were informed of the existence these programs, or what they had recovered and discovered, which is why he went with his information to the Intelligence Community Inspector General, and to Congress. </p>
<p>Grusch says that paralleling these clandestine crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs was a deliberate disinformation campaign designed to make people dismiss UFOs as being a crazy illusion and, apparently, in the course of these actions many crimes—according to Coulthart many grave crimes&#8211;were committed.*</p>
<p>This story has also just been broken by reporter Leslie Kean (who coauthored the landmark 2017 New York Times story “Glowing Auras and “Black Money”: The Pentagon&#8217;s  Mysterious UFO Program,” about the ATIP program and Lou Elizondo) and co-author Ralph Blumenthal, reporting on “The Debrief”**</p>
<p>*See   <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjbFZT9_EM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjbFZT9_EM</a></p>
<p>And see also <a href="https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-retrieval-program/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/military-whistleblowe-us-ufo-retrieval-program/</a></p>
<p>**  See <a href="http://thedebrief.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thedebrief.org</a></p>
<p>I predict that we will be hearing a lot more from Coulthart, and from and about David Grusch.</p>
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		By: Another Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 22:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ John Baker- 4:26pm:  &quot;...I have [sic] State Farm for three decades.&quot;   And I bet you were quoted exactly the same price for the next span of coverage as a brand-new, first time buyer  with identical bona-fides (age, vehicle type, etc) but no track record with them . 

Just a guess.   My insurance is the same.    Our loyalty to them is of no value to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John Baker- 4:26pm:  &#8220;&#8230;I have [sic] State Farm for three decades.&#8221;   And I bet you were quoted exactly the same price for the next span of coverage as a brand-new, first time buyer  with identical bona-fides (age, vehicle type, etc) but no track record with them . </p>
<p>Just a guess.   My insurance is the same.    Our loyalty to them is of no value to them.</p>
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