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		By: Keith		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Went to Prince Edward Isle 4 years ago. Stopped in Maine to visit wife’s high school chum. Very liberal, but polite use to be old money ,now just old. Live in grandpappy the sea captains house built on a big rock right on the bay/ocean. It creaks when the wind blows , made us a traditional main seafood feast. The mussels weren’t bad, and the best lobster we ever had. Traveled north through rural Main and met a few characters . Though a Mississippi Redneck I met some positively shonuff country boys . As we say “he was as country as turnip greens.” I fit right in. Can’t wait to visit again. Should have skipped Canada and stayed in Main]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went to Prince Edward Isle 4 years ago. Stopped in Maine to visit wife’s high school chum. Very liberal, but polite use to be old money ,now just old. Live in grandpappy the sea captains house built on a big rock right on the bay/ocean. It creaks when the wind blows , made us a traditional main seafood feast. The mussels weren’t bad, and the best lobster we ever had. Traveled north through rural Main and met a few characters . Though a Mississippi Redneck I met some positively shonuff country boys . As we say “he was as country as turnip greens.” I fit right in. Can’t wait to visit again. Should have skipped Canada and stayed in Main</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 11:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Ice cream / New England

That was about the first thing I noticed (after the fall colors) when I moved to Boston. As I recall then, Massachusetts had the highest per capita consumption of ice cream in the country. I remember &quot;Friendly&#039;s&quot; -- a family restaurant / ice cream parlor -- being everywhere.

I was shocked last time I was in Boston to discover all the &quot;Bailey&#039;s&quot; were gone. Their signature dessert was a hot fudge sundae served in a pewter dish and plate with a bit of the fudge slopped ostentatiously onto the plate.

https://caughtinsouthie.com/features/remembering-baileys-ice-cream-shop/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Ice cream / New England</p>
<p>That was about the first thing I noticed (after the fall colors) when I moved to Boston. As I recall then, Massachusetts had the highest per capita consumption of ice cream in the country. I remember &#8220;Friendly&#8217;s&#8221; &#8212; a family restaurant / ice cream parlor &#8212; being everywhere.</p>
<p>I was shocked last time I was in Boston to discover all the &#8220;Bailey&#8217;s&#8221; were gone. Their signature dessert was a hot fudge sundae served in a pewter dish and plate with a bit of the fudge slopped ostentatiously onto the plate.</p>
<p><a href="https://caughtinsouthie.com/features/remembering-baileys-ice-cream-shop/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://caughtinsouthie.com/features/remembering-baileys-ice-cream-shop/</a></p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 06:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Hubert &#062; &quot;Good to see you, but: weren’t you supposed to be on break for the summer in Wyoming?&quot;

We are, but I had some (relatively) spare time and dropped in to see what was going on here. We keep pretty busy, especially now that school is out and the vacationers are on the road.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Hubert &gt; &#8220;Good to see you, but: weren’t you supposed to be on break for the summer in Wyoming?&#8221;</p>
<p>We are, but I had some (relatively) spare time and dropped in to see what was going on here. We keep pretty busy, especially now that school is out and the vacationers are on the road.</p>
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		By: Philip Sells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Sells]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 01:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OBH, you make Blue Bell sound very appealing. Looking on their &#039;where to buy&#039; map, I see their reach extends theoretically way up into a few counties in northern IN and northwest OH, just shy of southern MI, but maybe close enough that I could have a reason to hunt for it when I&#039;m over that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBH, you make Blue Bell sound very appealing. Looking on their &#8216;where to buy&#8217; map, I see their reach extends theoretically way up into a few counties in northern IN and northwest OH, just shy of southern MI, but maybe close enough that I could have a reason to hunt for it when I&#8217;m over that way.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 20:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Born in MA, grew up in MI.   Went back with the folks to see both sides of the family, MA and CT. Every summer through age maybe eighteen.
Figured New England Barn Red was an actual paint color you could order--everybody else seemed to.
And tall houses painted white with dark green shutters were a zoning requirement or something.

As I recall, going on sixty-five years ago, Friendlys was an ice cream place. Now a restaurant.  Used to save up my allowance for the Awful Awful, forty cents, or the huge hot fudge sundaes, thirty five cents.

My father and his brothers would load up on clams and lobsters.  My mom&#039;s family was in MA from southern Ohio, so our usual diet growing up didn&#039;t include molluscs or arthropods.

Loved the landscape, hills and valleys and old stone walls.

Other than a problem with some vowels (&quot;log&quot; was &quot;lahg&quot; and so forth) and terminal &quot;r&quot;, never noticed a local personality type.

Highly recommend &quot;Sudden Sea&quot; by Scotti, a very well researched and very well written book with more than the usual meteorology about the Long Island Express (hurricane of 38).  I was caught by book, having been in or heard of most of the places from my father&#039;s stories of growing up in Norwich, CT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Born in MA, grew up in MI.   Went back with the folks to see both sides of the family, MA and CT. Every summer through age maybe eighteen.<br />
Figured New England Barn Red was an actual paint color you could order&#8211;everybody else seemed to.<br />
And tall houses painted white with dark green shutters were a zoning requirement or something.</p>
<p>As I recall, going on sixty-five years ago, Friendlys was an ice cream place. Now a restaurant.  Used to save up my allowance for the Awful Awful, forty cents, or the huge hot fudge sundaes, thirty five cents.</p>
<p>My father and his brothers would load up on clams and lobsters.  My mom&#8217;s family was in MA from southern Ohio, so our usual diet growing up didn&#8217;t include molluscs or arthropods.</p>
<p>Loved the landscape, hills and valleys and old stone walls.</p>
<p>Other than a problem with some vowels (&#8220;log&#8221; was &#8220;lahg&#8221; and so forth) and terminal &#8220;r&#8221;, never noticed a local personality type.</p>
<p>Highly recommend &#8220;Sudden Sea&#8221; by Scotti, a very well researched and very well written book with more than the usual meteorology about the Long Island Express (hurricane of 38).  I was caught by book, having been in or heard of most of the places from my father&#8217;s stories of growing up in Norwich, CT.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 17:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Classic New England was the small towns with wooden buildings that all look like they could use a fresh coat of whitewash.  In recent decades, money from tech, finance, tourism, or trust fund babies has gotten the towns in any proximity to big cities or tourist centers painted, but it may be different in out of the way places up north.

My parents&#039; garage was for stuff, but some of the stuff was the old, broken down cars that my father was always planning to fix up and put back on the road, so in a way, we did indeed have a &quot;two car garage.&quot;  In another part of the country, we would have been able to keep those cars on the lawn, but one couldn&#039;t get away with that in suburban New England.  

If you don&#039;t keep your (working) car(s) in the garage, you have to shovel them off when it snows.  Snow shovels can damage the finish.  For that reason a special plastic car shovel was invented, but it was usually buried somewhere underneath all the other stuff in the garage, so we probably damaged the paint job anyway. 

The neighbors did keep their cars in their garages,  They also hired people to shovel their driveways and mow their lawns, but they were usually people &quot;from away.&quot;  A real new arrival is somebody who keeps their car in the garage &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; under a protective car cover.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic New England was the small towns with wooden buildings that all look like they could use a fresh coat of whitewash.  In recent decades, money from tech, finance, tourism, or trust fund babies has gotten the towns in any proximity to big cities or tourist centers painted, but it may be different in out of the way places up north.</p>
<p>My parents&#8217; garage was for stuff, but some of the stuff was the old, broken down cars that my father was always planning to fix up and put back on the road, so in a way, we did indeed have a &#8220;two car garage.&#8221;  In another part of the country, we would have been able to keep those cars on the lawn, but one couldn&#8217;t get away with that in suburban New England.  </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t keep your (working) car(s) in the garage, you have to shovel them off when it snows.  Snow shovels can damage the finish.  For that reason a special plastic car shovel was invented, but it was usually buried somewhere underneath all the other stuff in the garage, so we probably damaged the paint job anyway. </p>
<p>The neighbors did keep their cars in their garages,  They also hired people to shovel their driveways and mow their lawns, but they were usually people &#8220;from away.&#8221;  A real new arrival is somebody who keeps their car in the garage <i>and</i> under a protective car cover.</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 15:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PS:  Meant to mention...  I also recall when Flagstaff was my hometown...  not a lake.

&quot;Below&quot; by Slaid Cleaves  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ATIVa7WbHs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  Meant to mention&#8230;  I also recall when Flagstaff was my hometown&#8230;  not a lake.</p>
<p>&#8220;Below&#8221; by Slaid Cleaves  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ATIVa7WbHs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ATIVa7WbHs</a></p>
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		By: cb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 14:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,  Thanks for the memories.  Having been &#039;Made in Maine&#039; long ago I recall when Sugarloaf was just another mountain down the road.  Some live cams if interested:
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/search.html?searchword=MAINE&#038;searchphrase=all]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,  Thanks for the memories.  Having been &#8216;Made in Maine&#8217; long ago I recall when Sugarloaf was just another mountain down the road.  Some live cams if interested:<br />
<a href="https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/search.html?searchword=MAINE&#038;searchphrase=all" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/search.html?searchword=MAINE&#038;searchphrase=all</a></p>
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		By: charles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 14:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;New Englanders don’t use umbrellas.&lt;/i&gt;

That fact reminds me of when I started college in DC - I found it funny that so many people there use an umbrella when it snows!

&lt;i&gt;Women mow the lawns&lt;/i&gt;

Here in the New Jersey suburbs I think about half the lawns in my neighborhood are cut by women.  One of my neighbors, an elderly retired guy, uses a &quot;lawn service&quot; which is really a widow in her 50s who cuts grass to supplement her income.

And as for Ben &#038; Jerry&#039;s - nope, I can do without.  Their ice cream is too much like candy with all the bits they add.  Also for all the virtue signalling that company does they are the cheapest people around.  Went on their tour one trip to New England and found the &quot;samples&quot; at the end of the tour so skimpy as to be embarrassing  - two little pill cups (you know, the little white cups that they put pills in at the hospital) with what ever flavor they were making at the time.  Although you could buy any flavor they make for sale (at rather high prices) at their ice cream shop.  

I guess you could make an argument that their small samples were an indication of New England &quot;frugality&quot;?  Na, forget that idea; Ben &#038; Jerry&#039;s is just liberal cheap!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>New Englanders don’t use umbrellas.</i></p>
<p>That fact reminds me of when I started college in DC &#8211; I found it funny that so many people there use an umbrella when it snows!</p>
<p><i>Women mow the lawns</i></p>
<p>Here in the New Jersey suburbs I think about half the lawns in my neighborhood are cut by women.  One of my neighbors, an elderly retired guy, uses a &#8220;lawn service&#8221; which is really a widow in her 50s who cuts grass to supplement her income.</p>
<p>And as for Ben &amp; Jerry&#8217;s &#8211; nope, I can do without.  Their ice cream is too much like candy with all the bits they add.  Also for all the virtue signalling that company does they are the cheapest people around.  Went on their tour one trip to New England and found the &#8220;samples&#8221; at the end of the tour so skimpy as to be embarrassing  &#8211; two little pill cups (you know, the little white cups that they put pills in at the hospital) with what ever flavor they were making at the time.  Although you could buy any flavor they make for sale (at rather high prices) at their ice cream shop.  </p>
<p>I guess you could make an argument that their small samples were an indication of New England &#8220;frugality&#8221;?  Na, forget that idea; Ben &amp; Jerry&#8217;s is just liberal cheap!</p>
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		By: steve walsh		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a lifelong New England resident, originally eastern MA and now Maine, this is an excellent list. Though I have to say the one about women mowing lawns is not universally true in my experience. I know a few who have mown the lawn, but they did not do so regularly. The one about garages is especially true. My parents had never put the car in the garage, it was more like an oversized shed with yard and lawn equipment, kid toys, and so forth. Because of this when we purchased our first home that had a garage, I insisted that we kept our cars in it. We have done so ever since.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a lifelong New England resident, originally eastern MA and now Maine, this is an excellent list. Though I have to say the one about women mowing lawns is not universally true in my experience. I know a few who have mown the lawn, but they did not do so regularly. The one about garages is especially true. My parents had never put the car in the garage, it was more like an oversized shed with yard and lawn equipment, kid toys, and so forth. Because of this when we purchased our first home that had a garage, I insisted that we kept our cars in it. We have done so ever since.</p>
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