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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680225</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 17:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From an article I&#039;ve read I&#039;ve learned that- 

Art Deco is correct: Harry is still,...legally, a Prince in the [British?] Royal Family, although he 100% doesn&#039;t want to be a prince.

 Harry wants to 100% stop being a prince, but, as I understand it: there is no [legal] way [in the UK laws], for him to give up being a prince, and neither is there [a family tradition, in the British Royal Family], to give up being a prince/to stop being a prince or princess.

 So, AFAIK: Harry has given up his Royal [Family] duties, but he&#039;s still (the 5th or 6th?) in line to be the King/Monarch of the British Royal Family, if he is needed to fill that position.
 
 I suppose, if they officially made him The King, that he could abdicate that position.
 
 People have abdicated the position of The King, aka people have abdicated The King&#039;s/The Monarch&#039;s Throne, in the past.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an article I&#8217;ve read I&#8217;ve learned that- </p>
<p>Art Deco is correct: Harry is still,&#8230;legally, a Prince in the [British?] Royal Family, although he 100% doesn&#8217;t want to be a prince.</p>
<p> Harry wants to 100% stop being a prince, but, as I understand it: there is no [legal] way [in the UK laws], for him to give up being a prince, and neither is there [a family tradition, in the British Royal Family], to give up being a prince/to stop being a prince or princess.</p>
<p> So, AFAIK: Harry has given up his Royal [Family] duties, but he&#8217;s still (the 5th or 6th?) in line to be the King/Monarch of the British Royal Family, if he is needed to fill that position.</p>
<p> I suppose, if they officially made him The King, that he could abdicate that position.</p>
<p> People have abdicated the position of The King, aka people have abdicated The King&#8217;s/The Monarch&#8217;s Throne, in the past.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 07:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to the AB debacle, two words: &quot;Transheuser Busch&quot;.
:-D

Spread it and keep it alive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the AB debacle, two words: &#8220;Transheuser Busch&#8221;.<br />
😀</p>
<p>Spread it and keep it alive.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680165</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just bumped into this Professor of Rock piece on the biggest hit for the late Gordon Lightfoot. 

Thought some might find it interesting, as it&#039;s a view into Lightfoot, as well as a commentary on Muses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tM_y4Dwk0I]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just bumped into this Professor of Rock piece on the biggest hit for the late Gordon Lightfoot. </p>
<p>Thought some might find it interesting, as it&#8217;s a view into Lightfoot, as well as a commentary on Muses.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tM_y4Dwk0I" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tM_y4Dwk0I</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680164</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 04:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art Deco:

I think he&#039;s awful in many ways, not just in the ways described by the adjectives you used.  

And you&#039;re employing a strawman argument if you think I&#039;m saying that Harry&#039;s more general awfulness was caused by his mother&#039;s death when he was 12.  Actually, I was quite clearly saying his reaction to even a minor car chase by a paparazzi is probably a result of trauma from that incident in which his mother died - plus his own experiences as a child with paparazzi round almost constantly.  

Nor do people react to a traumatic incident in the same way.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art Deco:</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s awful in many ways, not just in the ways described by the adjectives you used.  </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re employing a strawman argument if you think I&#8217;m saying that Harry&#8217;s more general awfulness was caused by his mother&#8217;s death when he was 12.  Actually, I was quite clearly saying his reaction to even a minor car chase by a paparazzi is probably a result of trauma from that incident in which his mother died &#8211; plus his own experiences as a child with paparazzi round almost constantly.  </p>
<p>Nor do people react to a traumatic incident in the same way.  </p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680145</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 01:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Are you really interested in quibbling about the definition of “awful”? It’s not synonymous with “evil.” It can certainly include “pathetic, embarrassing, and manipulable.”&lt;/i&gt;
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I didn&#039;t like your term, because it does not refer to his precise qualities.
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&lt;i&gt;Losing one’s mother in a terrible accident at the age of 12, and then having to deal with it under the eyes of the worldwide public and the news, is the sort of trauma that most people don’t have to deal with. Of course, some have to deal with worse, and do well in life. But many struggle with the aftereffects of trauma at such vulnerable early ages, and Harry had quite a lot to deal with at a vulnerable age.&lt;/i&gt;
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He is currently estranged from his family and has conducted himself for the last several years with zero dignity.  I&#039;m not inclined to attribute that to a misfortune which occurred when he was 13.  His brother is not conducting himself this way. Neither did his grandfather, whose family life was during his adolescent years a disaster.  Neither did the Queen&#039;s Kent cousins, who lost their father at six and eight respectively.  Some of my co-workers when I was 38 found me distasteful; it would never have occurred to them to ponder my domestic situation at age 13 or make any reference to it at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are you really interested in quibbling about the definition of “awful”? It’s not synonymous with “evil.” It can certainly include “pathetic, embarrassing, and manipulable.”</i><br />
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I didn&#8217;t like your term, because it does not refer to his precise qualities.<br />
==<br />
<i>Losing one’s mother in a terrible accident at the age of 12, and then having to deal with it under the eyes of the worldwide public and the news, is the sort of trauma that most people don’t have to deal with. Of course, some have to deal with worse, and do well in life. But many struggle with the aftereffects of trauma at such vulnerable early ages, and Harry had quite a lot to deal with at a vulnerable age.</i><br />
==<br />
He is currently estranged from his family and has conducted himself for the last several years with zero dignity.  I&#8217;m not inclined to attribute that to a misfortune which occurred when he was 13.  His brother is not conducting himself this way. Neither did his grandfather, whose family life was during his adolescent years a disaster.  Neither did the Queen&#8217;s Kent cousins, who lost their father at six and eight respectively.  Some of my co-workers when I was 38 found me distasteful; it would never have occurred to them to ponder my domestic situation at age 13 or make any reference to it at all.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680118</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 23:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: The Stanley Brothers

As a carom from M J R&#039;s comment on &quot;Finger Poppin&#039; Time&quot; by &quot;Hank Ballard &#038; The Midnighters&quot; to the &quot;Stanley Brothers&quot; cover, I&#039;m enjoying a Stanley Brothers retrospective.

These were special people with special music. If the truth could be told, I say Bluegrass is just White Blues -- an organic upwelling of musical spirit within a hardscrabble group and with near-infinite possibilities.

Carter Stanley was the songwriter and guitar. He died early from cirrhosis. In the spirit of Hal Holbrooke&#039;s evocation of Mark Twain, Gary Reid created a one-man show based on Carter Stanley:

--&quot;A Life of Sorrow -- the Life and Times of Carter Stanley&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjEQy-BcKW8

Ralph Stanley played banjo, sang harmony and became a Country icon.

--&quot;Ralph Stanley Biography HD From TNN &#039;The Life and Times&#039;&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnM9bn3eUcI

Note to neo: Ralph attributes the Brother&#039;s vocal success to the special ability of family members to harmonize.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The Stanley Brothers</p>
<p>As a carom from M J R&#8217;s comment on &#8220;Finger Poppin&#8217; Time&#8221; by &#8220;Hank Ballard &amp; The Midnighters&#8221; to the &#8220;Stanley Brothers&#8221; cover, I&#8217;m enjoying a Stanley Brothers retrospective.</p>
<p>These were special people with special music. If the truth could be told, I say Bluegrass is just White Blues &#8212; an organic upwelling of musical spirit within a hardscrabble group and with near-infinite possibilities.</p>
<p>Carter Stanley was the songwriter and guitar. He died early from cirrhosis. In the spirit of Hal Holbrooke&#8217;s evocation of Mark Twain, Gary Reid created a one-man show based on Carter Stanley:</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;A Life of Sorrow &#8212; the Life and Times of Carter Stanley&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjEQy-BcKW8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjEQy-BcKW8</a></p>
<p>Ralph Stanley played banjo, sang harmony and became a Country icon.</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;Ralph Stanley Biography HD From TNN &#8216;The Life and Times'&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnM9bn3eUcI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnM9bn3eUcI</a></p>
<p>Note to neo: Ralph attributes the Brother&#8217;s vocal success to the special ability of family members to harmonize.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680117</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 23:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Feinstein is a very sad case. Her staff has reportedly been covering for her, and doing her job for her, for years. She has a daughter. If I had an elderly mother in this condition I&#039;d consider stepping in legally.

Another medically sad case is Sen. Fetterman. He is unable to ask questions and process information in hearings. My daughter the speech pathologist tells me that the kind of damage he has does not affect intelligence; it&#039;s a communications disorder. He has to know that he can&#039;t do the job, and it seems to me that his depression may very well return.

I am without any agreement with Feinstein&#039;s or Fetterman&#039;s politics, and also without agreement with whomever is keeping these people in positions which are obviously not good for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feinstein is a very sad case. Her staff has reportedly been covering for her, and doing her job for her, for years. She has a daughter. If I had an elderly mother in this condition I&#8217;d consider stepping in legally.</p>
<p>Another medically sad case is Sen. Fetterman. He is unable to ask questions and process information in hearings. My daughter the speech pathologist tells me that the kind of damage he has does not affect intelligence; it&#8217;s a communications disorder. He has to know that he can&#8217;t do the job, and it seems to me that his depression may very well return.</p>
<p>I am without any agreement with Feinstein&#8217;s or Fetterman&#8217;s politics, and also without agreement with whomever is keeping these people in positions which are obviously not good for them.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 23:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/05/17/there-but-not-all-there-after-three-month-absence-dianne-feinstein-insists-she-has-been-in-the-senate-all-along-n1696133
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Dianne Feinstein doesn&#039;t know where she&#039;s been the last three months.  Note, this is a woman who, with her husband, had a net worth of $96 million according to some sources.  Yet, she runs for re-election in 2018 at the age of 85. She runs even though her husband was diagnosed with lung cancer two years earlier. (He died 15 months ago).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/05/17/there-but-not-all-there-after-three-month-absence-dianne-feinstein-insists-she-has-been-in-the-senate-all-along-n1696133" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/05/17/there-but-not-all-there-after-three-month-absence-dianne-feinstein-insists-she-has-been-in-the-senate-all-along-n1696133</a><br />
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Dianne Feinstein doesn&#8217;t know where she&#8217;s been the last three months.  Note, this is a woman who, with her husband, had a net worth of $96 million according to some sources.  Yet, she runs for re-election in 2018 at the age of 85. She runs even though her husband was diagnosed with lung cancer two years earlier. (He died 15 months ago).</p>
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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680113</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 23:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the responses, Everyone. :)

 This is a topic that was enjoyable to discuss. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the responses, Everyone. 🙂</p>
<p> This is a topic that was enjoyable to discuss. 🙂</p>
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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/17/open-thread-5-17-23/#comment-2680111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 23:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi om,

 I would LOVE it, if they made that into an episode of South Park! :D

 Have a Cool Day. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi om,</p>
<p> I would LOVE it, if they made that into an episode of South Park! 😀</p>
<p> Have a Cool Day. 🙂</p>
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