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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679704</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 18:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the Democratic Party
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1657566565422837760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1657566565422837760%7Ctwgr%5Ea1c7a246988d4e2d1d79309fb027ca17d3363004%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fisteve%2Fnyt-cleopatra-was-black-because-it-makes-us-feel-good-to-say-she-was-black%2F]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the Democratic Party<br />
<a href="https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1657566565422837760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1657566565422837760%7Ctwgr%5Ea1c7a246988d4e2d1d79309fb027ca17d3363004%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fisteve%2Fnyt-cleopatra-was-black-because-it-makes-us-feel-good-to-say-she-was-black%2F" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1657566565422837760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1657566565422837760%7Ctwgr%5Ea1c7a246988d4e2d1d79309fb027ca17d3363004%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&#038;ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fisteve%2Fnyt-cleopatra-was-black-because-it-makes-us-feel-good-to-say-she-was-black%2F</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 15:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Intimidation (continued)...
Matt Taibbi chimes in on the lawsuit against Fox:
&quot;Taibbi Fact-Check: Nina Jankowicz v. Fox News&quot;---
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-fact-check-nina-jankowicz-v-fox-news

(It really looks like they hurt her feelings... Seriously!
But then, how does one take the feelings of a serial liar, um, seriously?
Conclusion: Even serial liars have feelings...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intimidation (continued)&#8230;<br />
Matt Taibbi chimes in on the lawsuit against Fox:<br />
&#8220;Taibbi Fact-Check: Nina Jankowicz v. Fox News&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-fact-check-nina-jankowicz-v-fox-news" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-fact-check-nina-jankowicz-v-fox-news</a></p>
<p>(It really looks like they hurt her feelings&#8230; Seriously!<br />
But then, how does one take the feelings of a serial liar, um, seriously?<br />
Conclusion: Even serial liars have feelings&#8230;)</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679681</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 15:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sunday morning Open Thread:  But what about France?  You didn&#039;t ask?

&lt;b&gt;French Defence Strategy &#038; Rearmament - a new war economy, deterrence &#038; strategic autonomy - Perun&lt;/b&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E

Timestamps:
 00:00:00 -- FRENCH DEFENCE STRATEGY &#038; REARMAMENT
 00:01:38 -- WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?
 00:03:10 -- FRENCH MILITARY HISTORY
 00:08:05 -- napoleon&#039;s France
 00:15:07 -- cold war France
 00:17:03 -- FRENCH STRATEGIC POSITION
 00:19:09 -- setting goals
 00:23:15 -- THREATS AND OBJECTIVES
 00:25:46 -- THE FRENCH MILITARY
 00:34:12 -- FRENCH NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES
 00:45:02 -- A FRENCH ADVANTAGE?
 00:46:40 -- selected French and German equipment graph
 00:48:11 -- how?
 00:55:07 -- INDUSTRY &#038; SYSTEMS
 00:58:35 -- European giants
 01:02:56 -- protecting export
 01:06:04 -- FRANCE&#039;S PLANNED TRANSFORMATION 
 01:09:04 -- economic preparation
 01:12:02 -- FRANCE AND &quot;STRATEGIC AUTONOMY&quot;
 01:12:17 -- pursuit of autonomy
 01:13:49 -- the challenges of autonomy
 01:16:03 -- CONCLUSIONS
 01:17:41 -- CHANNEL UPDATE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday morning Open Thread:  But what about France?  You didn&#8217;t ask?</p>
<p><b>French Defence Strategy &amp; Rearmament &#8211; a new war economy, deterrence &amp; strategic autonomy &#8211; Perun</b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5eUh3_eo9E</a></p>
<p>Timestamps:<br />
 00:00:00 &#8212; FRENCH DEFENCE STRATEGY &amp; REARMAMENT<br />
 00:01:38 &#8212; WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?<br />
 00:03:10 &#8212; FRENCH MILITARY HISTORY<br />
 00:08:05 &#8212; napoleon&#8217;s France<br />
 00:15:07 &#8212; cold war France<br />
 00:17:03 &#8212; FRENCH STRATEGIC POSITION<br />
 00:19:09 &#8212; setting goals<br />
 00:23:15 &#8212; THREATS AND OBJECTIVES<br />
 00:25:46 &#8212; THE FRENCH MILITARY<br />
 00:34:12 &#8212; FRENCH NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES<br />
 00:45:02 &#8212; A FRENCH ADVANTAGE?<br />
 00:46:40 &#8212; selected French and German equipment graph<br />
 00:48:11 &#8212; how?<br />
 00:55:07 &#8212; INDUSTRY &amp; SYSTEMS<br />
 00:58:35 &#8212; European giants<br />
 01:02:56 &#8212; protecting export<br />
 01:06:04 &#8212; FRANCE&#8217;S PLANNED TRANSFORMATION<br />
 01:09:04 &#8212; economic preparation<br />
 01:12:02 &#8212; FRANCE AND &#8220;STRATEGIC AUTONOMY&#8221;<br />
 01:12:17 &#8212; pursuit of autonomy<br />
 01:13:49 &#8212; the challenges of autonomy<br />
 01:16:03 &#8212; CONCLUSIONS<br />
 01:17:41 &#8212; CHANNEL UPDATE</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 13:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the &quot;Well it sure worked for Dominon!&quot; File....
&#039; Ex-Disinfo Governance Board chief sues Fox News for &#039;immense suffering&#039; caused by &#039;lies&#039; about her;
&#039; Nina Jankowicz, who called the Hunter Biden laptop Russian disinformation and Steele dossier true, claimed that Fox made &quot;cheap, easy entertainment untethered from the facts&quot; that provoked physical threats.&#039;---
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/ex-disinfo-governance-board-chief-sues-fox-news-immense-suffering

Clearly &quot;just&quot; another &quot;Biden&quot; gambit to intimidate the Truth tellers....
(See, that way, they don&#039;t even HAVE TO censor the news!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the &#8220;Well it sure worked for Dominon!&#8221; File&#8230;.<br />
&#8216; Ex-Disinfo Governance Board chief sues Fox News for &#8216;immense suffering&#8217; caused by &#8216;lies&#8217; about her;<br />
&#8216; Nina Jankowicz, who called the Hunter Biden laptop Russian disinformation and Steele dossier true, claimed that Fox made &#8220;cheap, easy entertainment untethered from the facts&#8221; that provoked physical threats.&#8217;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/ex-disinfo-governance-board-chief-sues-fox-news-immense-suffering" rel="nofollow ugc">https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/ex-disinfo-governance-board-chief-sues-fox-news-immense-suffering</a></p>
<p>Clearly &#8220;just&#8221; another &#8220;Biden&#8221; gambit to intimidate the Truth tellers&#8230;.<br />
(See, that way, they don&#8217;t even HAVE TO censor the news!)</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679635</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 04:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Fear is useful as a warning ... [but] if you let it rule you, you&#039;re its
slave.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
 - S.M. Stirling/Shirley Meier, &#039;The Cage&#039; -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Fear is useful as a warning &#8230; [but] if you let it rule you, you&#8217;re its<br />
slave.&#8221;</i><br />
 &#8211; S.M. Stirling/Shirley Meier, &#8216;The Cage&#8217; &#8211;</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679634</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 04:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Fear is just one more weapon, no more dangerous in itself than a sharpened
blade is. Treat it as you would any weapon. When it approaches, turn
yourself to let it pass you by, then take and control the hand that guides
it at you. The weapon without the hand is only one more thing in a universe
full of things.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
 - Gordon R. Dickson, &#039;The Final Encyclopaedia&#039; -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Fear is just one more weapon, no more dangerous in itself than a sharpened<br />
blade is. Treat it as you would any weapon. When it approaches, turn<br />
yourself to let it pass you by, then take and control the hand that guides<br />
it at you. The weapon without the hand is only one more thing in a universe<br />
full of things.&#8221;</i><br />
 &#8211; Gordon R. Dickson, &#8216;The Final Encyclopaedia&#8217; &#8211;</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679633</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 04:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;The disciplines that hold men together in the face of fear, hunger, and
danger are not natural.  Stresses equal to, and beyond the stress of fear
and panic must be laid on them.  Some of these stresses are called
civilization.  And even the highest of civilizations demands leadership.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
 - T. R. Fehrenbach, &#039;This Kind of War&#039; -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The disciplines that hold men together in the face of fear, hunger, and<br />
danger are not natural.  Stresses equal to, and beyond the stress of fear<br />
and panic must be laid on them.  Some of these stresses are called<br />
civilization.  And even the highest of civilizations demands leadership.&#8221;</i><br />
 &#8211; T. R. Fehrenbach, &#8216;This Kind of War&#8217; &#8211;</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679632</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;The mind can go either direction under stress - toward the positive or
toward the negative:  on or off.  Think of it as a spectrum whose extremes
are unconsciousness at the negative end and hyperconsciousness at the
positive end.  The way the mind will lean under stress is strongly
influenced by training.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
 - Bene Gesserit Axiom, &#039;Dune&#039; -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The mind can go either direction under stress &#8211; toward the positive or<br />
toward the negative:  on or off.  Think of it as a spectrum whose extremes<br />
are unconsciousness at the negative end and hyperconsciousness at the<br />
positive end.  The way the mind will lean under stress is strongly<br />
influenced by training.&#8221;</i><br />
 &#8211; Bene Gesserit Axiom, &#8216;Dune&#8217; &#8211;</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PA+Cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 04:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley--

Here is a link to the complete conjugation of &lt;i&gt;foutre&lt;/i&gt;, complete with a warning that it is a rude verb: 

https://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-french-verb-foutre.html

And here, for your further enlightenment, is a Frenchwoman&#039;s guide to the many meanings of &lt;i&gt;foutre&lt;/i&gt;: 

https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-verb-conjugation/french-swear-words/

She gives the same advice that my high school French teacher gave (no, I&#039;m not so old that I or my teacher knew Guillaume le Conquérant personally):

&quot;I don’t mean to offend anybody, and I’m sorry to be using vulgar French swear words, but as a French learner, it is important that you understand these French slang expressions, and even more so the intent behind them. However, I would encourage you to stay away from them. If French slang sounds natural from a French native, slang is always stronger and has a much bigger impact when it is used by a foreigner.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley&#8211;</p>
<p>Here is a link to the complete conjugation of <i>foutre</i>, complete with a warning that it is a rude verb: </p>
<p><a href="https://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-french-verb-foutre.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-french-verb-foutre.html</a></p>
<p>And here, for your further enlightenment, is a Frenchwoman&#8217;s guide to the many meanings of <i>foutre</i>: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-verb-conjugation/french-swear-words/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-verb-conjugation/french-swear-words/</a></p>
<p>She gives the same advice that my high school French teacher gave (no, I&#8217;m not so old that I or my teacher knew Guillaume le Conquérant personally):</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t mean to offend anybody, and I’m sorry to be using vulgar French swear words, but as a French learner, it is important that you understand these French slang expressions, and even more so the intent behind them. However, I would encourage you to stay away from them. If French slang sounds natural from a French native, slang is always stronger and has a much bigger impact when it is used by a foreigner.&#8221;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/05/13/open-thread-5-13-23/#comment-2679624</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few more weird French things you don&#039;t need to know...

Working my way through Francoise Hardy&#039;s oeuvre, I got stuck on &quot;Ma jeunesse fout le camp.&quot; I can tell it&#039;s something about youth, female youth, but &quot;fout le camp&quot;?

Google Translate to the rescue. For stupid reasons I can&#039;t copy/paste a song title directly from Amazon Prime to Google Translate, so I have to remember from the first window, then type in to the next. Being fast and careless, I took a while to get the title right.

Here was my path to the proper translation. I was surprised how often the translation of my bad typing was rather raw and humorous.
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&lt;i&gt;me jeunesse fouit
my youth fucks

me jeunesse fout
my youth doesn&#039;t care

me jeunesse fout de la camp
my youth gives the fuck away

me jeunesse fout le camp
my youth is getting the hell out

&lt;b&gt;ma jeunesse fout le camp
my youth is fleeing&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
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If someone who knows French, especially slang French, can explain how &quot;fout&quot; is such a troublesome word or why getting &quot;me&quot; and &quot;ma&quot; mixed up should have such ramifications, I&#039;d be delighted to hear.

A more genera! take-away is that it&#039;s a lot more fun these days to ask &quot;What if?&quot; questions of a foreign language one is learning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more weird French things you don&#8217;t need to know&#8230;</p>
<p>Working my way through Francoise Hardy&#8217;s oeuvre, I got stuck on &#8220;Ma jeunesse fout le camp.&#8221; I can tell it&#8217;s something about youth, female youth, but &#8220;fout le camp&#8221;?</p>
<p>Google Translate to the rescue. For stupid reasons I can&#8217;t copy/paste a song title directly from Amazon Prime to Google Translate, so I have to remember from the first window, then type in to the next. Being fast and careless, I took a while to get the title right.</p>
<p>Here was my path to the proper translation. I was surprised how often the translation of my bad typing was rather raw and humorous.<br />
____________________________</p>
<p><i>me jeunesse fouit<br />
my youth fucks</p>
<p>me jeunesse fout<br />
my youth doesn&#8217;t care</p>
<p>me jeunesse fout de la camp<br />
my youth gives the fuck away</p>
<p>me jeunesse fout le camp<br />
my youth is getting the hell out</p>
<p><b>ma jeunesse fout le camp<br />
my youth is fleeing</b></i><br />
____________________________</p>
<p>If someone who knows French, especially slang French, can explain how &#8220;fout&#8221; is such a troublesome word or why getting &#8220;me&#8221; and &#8220;ma&#8221; mixed up should have such ramifications, I&#8217;d be delighted to hear.</p>
<p>A more genera! take-away is that it&#8217;s a lot more fun these days to ask &#8220;What if?&#8221; questions of a foreign language one is learning.</p>
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