Comments on: Heather Mac Donald talks about crime and race

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 21:02:16 +0000

Harking back to my comment of April 27th at 10:52 PM above, here’s another example of what I was talking about from NYC

See https://www.breitbart.com/pre-viral/2023/04/30/police-hunt-suspect-after-ny-subway-rider-allegedly-stabbed-with-ice-pick/

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 23:48:05 +0000

P.S. So, this idea of “Reparations” as justification is in the air, and it looks like it’s spreading.

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 23:41:25 +0000

How about the clip below in which a black women–with several carts with reportedly over $1,000 in food and other merchandise–tries to check out at a Target store–says she doesn’t have enough money to pay for all of this and, then, demands that she should be given these goods, free and clear, by Target, as “Reparations.”

This is followed by her arguing with several Target employees, then their “loss prevention” people and her pushing into the office of one of them, cornering him and getting “up in his face,” and him clocking her, and eventually the police were called. *

Or,
how about this BLM organizer justifying looting as Reparations? **

Or, some student’s views of this looting? ***

* See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQm25YR-97U&t=29s

** https://nypost.com/2020/08/13/blm-organizer-who-called-looting-reparations-doubles-down/

*** https://www.theblaze.com/news/college-students-rioting-looting-justified

By: Occasional Commenter

Occasional Commenter — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 21:23:38 +0000

Something Mac Donald does not address is so-called “victimless” black mob action, in which large gangs of “yutes” ransack a store. I’ve seen some video of entire Wal-Marts being trashed. The number of such flash mind seems to be on the uptick.

This has taken on the aura of a new entitlement. There are some short videos out there where young blacks now claim that such acts are considered reparations. Once that notion takes set, black culture is toast.

Reinventing inner city schools or revitalizing churches won’t fix these attitudes. Force of some kind will eventually be necessary. So, the vandalism may stop, but attitudes won’t change.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 23:22:27 +0000

When I worked in Flint, MI, I knew some older guys who’d grown up there. Sometimes, in talking about the black neighborhoods and the old days, they’d make an abortive move toward the throat with thumb opposed to the first two fingers.
They were referencing neckties while talking about “respectable”, “not like today” and the spoke as if they had no idea why it changed.
Odd how a memory could haul up almost as a reflex the reference to a necktie, going back at that point maybe forty to fifty years.

By: Steph

Steph — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 21:05:42 +0000

IrishOtter – how much, if any, of this uptick in violence could be attributed to school busing? It certainly created a lot of friction among whites and blacks when I was in Junior High, 1970 and onward. I remember many times that our school would close early and release students in intervals (by floor dismissals) in an attempt to dissipate any crowds from hanging around.

By: John Guilfoyle

John Guilfoyle — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 20:54:35 +0000

“P.S.—Where are the black churches in all this?”

Snow…now you’ve asked the other “nigh-unaskable” question.
My take…most sold out either to the “prosperity gospel” (Creflo Dollar, TD Jakes, Joel Osteen -spit-) and/or to “liberation theology” which is just Marxist Critical Theory veneered with Old Testament prophets of doom & retribution.

Inner city culture needs a Christian revival…like Western culture at large IMHO… but as long as the Benjamins flow some other direction, few influential black church leaders, or those who might have an influence, are going to buck the trends. And TBH…blame whitey is easier.
YMMV
Pax

By: neo

neo — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 20:34:23 +0000

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By: IrishOtter49

IrishOtter49 — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 20:17:31 +0000

I’m not sure about the problem starting in the 70s. In the 60s I attended a Chicago-area high school located in a black neighborhood. There was a lot of black-on-black crime and, as well, a fair amount of black-on-white crime. It was not a pleasant or edifying experience. Waiting outside the school at the bus stop in the dark after football practice was a dicey proposition. Even in school blacks bullying and physically abusing white kids was a regular occurrence. If you decided not to take the bus, walking home through that neighborhood was fraught with peril. Sometimes that peril was life-threatening. It was generally acknowledged, to the point where it did not even bear comment, that the black neighborhood was more violent, for blacks and whites alike. Nobody in authority did much, if anything, about this. You learned to live with the situation. You either suffered — took a beating, allowed yourself to be robbed or brutalized or otherwise humiliated — or you fought back. Interestingly, the Polish/Ukrainian neighborhood which adjoined the black neighborhood was a no-go zone for blacks. The Polack and Ukie youths didn’t take any shit and gave as good as they got.

Those were the times.

By: Snow on Pine

Snow on Pine — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:32:44 +0000

P.S.—Where are the black churches in all this?

On the outside looking in, and perhaps very wrong, but my impression is that, while their influence was very strong—almost determinative—in generations past, it has now waned considerably.