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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677336</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 00:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Earlier bof mentioned Les Paul / Mary Ford. 

I sure think they were amazing, now largely, sadly forgotten. neo has linked Wings of Pegasus before. Here&#039;s WoP on Les and Mary. Clearly I underestimated Mary:

--&quot;British guitarist analyses Les Paul and Mary Ford live in 1954!&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPked8fATPE

The sands of time and all that. Some say that in the future the only mid-20th C musicians who will be remembered are Elvis Presley and the Beatles.

I find that  difficult to argue. How many people remember Eric Clapton now? In another 20 years?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier bof mentioned Les Paul / Mary Ford. </p>
<p>I sure think they were amazing, now largely, sadly forgotten. neo has linked Wings of Pegasus before. Here&#8217;s WoP on Les and Mary. Clearly I underestimated Mary:</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;British guitarist analyses Les Paul and Mary Ford live in 1954!&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPked8fATPE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPked8fATPE</a></p>
<p>The sands of time and all that. Some say that in the future the only mid-20th C musicians who will be remembered are Elvis Presley and the Beatles.</p>
<p>I find that  difficult to argue. How many people remember Eric Clapton now? In another 20 years?</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677221</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 06:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1650488297355870213&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Viva Frei on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;i&gt;Either Ray Epps gets treated like the rest of the January 6 defendants, or the rest of the January 6 defendants get treated like Ray Epps. It&#039;s not complicated. 

Unless there is something the January 6 committee knows about Ray Epps that they haven&#039;t disclosed to the public...&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1650488297355870213" rel="nofollow ugc">Viva Frei on Twitter</a>:<br />
<i>Either Ray Epps gets treated like the rest of the January 6 defendants, or the rest of the January 6 defendants get treated like Ray Epps. It&#8217;s not complicated. </p>
<p>Unless there is something the January 6 committee knows about Ray Epps that they haven&#8217;t disclosed to the public&#8230;</i></p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677217</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 05:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,

I saw &quot;I Married a Witch&quot; about ten years ago. The opening scene in pilgrim times is bizarre. And Veronica Lake?! Wow! She oozes sex appeal in that role. A lot of double entendre in that film that&#039;s barely veiled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,</p>
<p>I saw &#8220;I Married a Witch&#8221; about ten years ago. The opening scene in pilgrim times is bizarre. And Veronica Lake?! Wow! She oozes sex appeal in that role. A lot of double entendre in that film that&#8217;s barely veiled.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677213</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 03:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bof:

Oh man! That&#039;s a find. I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve heard it but it&#039;s no sin to be reminded. 

Les Paul is a god.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bof:</p>
<p>Oh man! That&#8217;s a find. I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve heard it but it&#8217;s no sin to be reminded. </p>
<p>Les Paul is a god.</p>
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		By: bof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 03:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Hummingbird&quot; was also the title of a real song. The Les Paul &#038; Mary Ford version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zumOIWrGgSI]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hummingbird&#8221; was also the title of a real song. The Les Paul &amp; Mary Ford version:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zumOIWrGgSI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zumOIWrGgSI</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 02:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OT: I&#039;m watching &quot;I Married a Witch&quot; (1942) by the French director, Rene Clair, after he came to Hollywood to do American films.

Quite fun. Veronica Lake is an absolute yum, having fun at the expense of Fredric March, the male lead in the film and on the set. 

He called her a &quot;brainless little blonde sexpot.&quot; She called him a &quot;pompous poseur&quot; then wore a 40# weight under her dress when a scene called for March to carry her.

Clearly the film was an inspiration (along with &quot;Bell, Book and Candle&quot;) for the classic 60s sitcom, &quot;Bewitched.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: I&#8217;m watching &#8220;I Married a Witch&#8221; (1942) by the French director, Rene Clair, after he came to Hollywood to do American films.</p>
<p>Quite fun. Veronica Lake is an absolute yum, having fun at the expense of Fredric March, the male lead in the film and on the set. </p>
<p>He called her a &#8220;brainless little blonde sexpot.&#8221; She called him a &#8220;pompous poseur&#8221; then wore a 40# weight under her dress when a scene called for March to carry her.</p>
<p>Clearly the film was an inspiration (along with &#8220;Bell, Book and Candle&#8221;) for the classic 60s sitcom, &#8220;Bewitched.&#8221;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 02:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seals and Crofts had a 70s hit titled, &quot;Hummingbird,&quot; from their smash album, &quot;Summer Breeze.&quot;

--Seals and Crofts, &quot;Hummingbird&quot;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r5Sl6WouLU

Who could know the song was a tribute to Baha&#039;u&#039;llah, Prophet of the Baha&#039;i Faith? Well, I found out because I looked it up even back then.

Both Seals and Crofts were sincere followers of Baha&#039;i and performed benefits for their faith.

Seals died of a stroke in 2022.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seals and Crofts had a 70s hit titled, &#8220;Hummingbird,&#8221; from their smash album, &#8220;Summer Breeze.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Seals and Crofts, &#8220;Hummingbird&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r5Sl6WouLU" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r5Sl6WouLU</a></p>
<p>Who could know the song was a tribute to Baha&#8217;u&#8217;llah, Prophet of the Baha&#8217;i Faith? Well, I found out because I looked it up even back then.</p>
<p>Both Seals and Crofts were sincere followers of Baha&#8217;i and performed benefits for their faith.</p>
<p>Seals died of a stroke in 2022.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677190</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I counted at least 4 NGO partners with Miles4Migrants who specifically focus on Latin American &quot;immigrants&quot; explicitly including illegals.

And so I think Ace has plenty of reason to be concerned and there&#039;s enough evidence from Miles4Migrants and its partners to support that concern.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I counted at least 4 NGO partners with Miles4Migrants who specifically focus on Latin American &#8220;immigrants&#8221; explicitly including illegals.</p>
<p>And so I think Ace has plenty of reason to be concerned and there&#8217;s enough evidence from Miles4Migrants and its partners to support that concern.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/24/open-thread-4-24-23/#comment-2677185</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@T.J. neo: I went to &lt;a href=&quot;https://miles4migrants.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Miles4Migrants&lt;/a&gt; website. They specifically reference helping people &quot;released from the Mexican border&quot; &quot;within&quot; the US, and those people are explicitly distinguished from those &quot;[released] from immigration detention and legally seeking asylum&quot;.

They do not attempt to determine whether the &quot;refugees&quot; they help actually have financial need or have legal authorization to enter their country of settlement.

I think it&#039;s certain they&#039;re helping some illegals whether they intend it or not, and not trying very hard to avoid it.

They don&#039;t break down who they help by country of origin naturally but they had anecdotes for Honduras, El Salvador, etc and so no it doesn&#039;t &quot;only involve immigrants from certain countries such as Afghanistan and Cuba&quot;.

Not sure how it matters whether they&#039;d be &quot;on the Left&quot; or how we&#039;d know.

&lt;i&gt;We do not have the capacity to vet flight recipients’ finances to ensure financial need, nor do we specialize in the administrative and legal work required to ensure each flight recipient is authorized to enter their resettlement country. This is where our nonprofit partners come in – each partner is responsible for vetting flight recipients to ensure they have the necessary legal approval and documents to travel to (or, in the case of those released at the US-Mexico border or from immigration detention and legally seeking asylum in the United States, within) their resettlement country. &lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@T.J. neo: I went to <a href="https://miles4migrants.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">Miles4Migrants</a> website. They specifically reference helping people &#8220;released from the Mexican border&#8221; &#8220;within&#8221; the US, and those people are explicitly distinguished from those &#8220;[released] from immigration detention and legally seeking asylum&#8221;.</p>
<p>They do not attempt to determine whether the &#8220;refugees&#8221; they help actually have financial need or have legal authorization to enter their country of settlement.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s certain they&#8217;re helping some illegals whether they intend it or not, and not trying very hard to avoid it.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t break down who they help by country of origin naturally but they had anecdotes for Honduras, El Salvador, etc and so no it doesn&#8217;t &#8220;only involve immigrants from certain countries such as Afghanistan and Cuba&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not sure how it matters whether they&#8217;d be &#8220;on the Left&#8221; or how we&#8217;d know.</p>
<p><i>We do not have the capacity to vet flight recipients’ finances to ensure financial need, nor do we specialize in the administrative and legal work required to ensure each flight recipient is authorized to enter their resettlement country. This is where our nonprofit partners come in – each partner is responsible for vetting flight recipients to ensure they have the necessary legal approval and documents to travel to (or, in the case of those released at the US-Mexico border or from immigration detention and legally seeking asylum in the United States, within) their resettlement country. </i></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ:

I read that post by Ace earlier today.  He is assuming they are including illegal aliens, but there is zero evidence for that.  Also,, it only involves immigrants from certain countries such as Afghanistan and Cuba - all of them seem to have immigrants that would not be assumed to be on the left. So I&#039;m not sure what he&#039;s so upset about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ:</p>
<p>I read that post by Ace earlier today.  He is assuming they are including illegal aliens, but there is zero evidence for that.  Also,, it only involves immigrants from certain countries such as Afghanistan and Cuba &#8211; all of them seem to have immigrants that would not be assumed to be on the left. So I&#8217;m not sure what he&#8217;s so upset about.</p>
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