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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/22/the-abortion-pill-legal-issues/#comment-2676981</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 22:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you look at janet yellen or corporate america, it seems abortion is an unalloyed good in their view,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you look at janet yellen or corporate america, it seems abortion is an unalloyed good in their view,</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 21:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate:

The person who said it would be &quot;exactly the same&quot; was, I believe, speaking of a SCOTUS ruling prohibiting abortion in all the states.  Or a law passed by Congress that would prohibit it in all the states.  In my opinion, prohibition should be reserved to the states, because it exceeds the scope of the powers of Congress.

Of course, Congress often exceeds those powers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate:</p>
<p>The person who said it would be &#8220;exactly the same&#8221; was, I believe, speaking of a SCOTUS ruling prohibiting abortion in all the states.  Or a law passed by Congress that would prohibit it in all the states.  In my opinion, prohibition should be reserved to the states, because it exceeds the scope of the powers of Congress.</p>
<p>Of course, Congress often exceeds those powers.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/22/the-abortion-pill-legal-issues/#comment-2676950</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the dems will find any reason any method necessary for abortion (6-15 weeks is now too strict, they shreak, because they want to kill to children, it&#039;s one of those impulses not explanable in law, but perhaps bronze age histories,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the dems will find any reason any method necessary for abortion (6-15 weeks is now too strict, they shreak, because they want to kill to children, it&#8217;s one of those impulses not explanable in law, but perhaps bronze age histories,</p>
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		By: Ray Van Dune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Van Dune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kudos to you for use of the term &quot;medication abortion&quot; which actually means something, versus the trend in the media to use &quot;medical abortion&quot;, that many Karens will assume means you saw a doctor!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to you for use of the term &#8220;medication abortion&#8221; which actually means something, versus the trend in the media to use &#8220;medical abortion&#8221;, that many Karens will assume means you saw a doctor!</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/22/the-abortion-pill-legal-issues/#comment-2676930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 14:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not &quot;exactly the same.&quot; Roe invented a constitutional right which existed nowhere. A law prohibiting, say, elective abortions after fifteen weeks, would be on the same level as laws prohibiting all sorts of things. 

It would be better for these matters to be handled at the state level, like ordinary homicide codes. But, we have states doing extremes on both ends, from prohibition with limited exceptions in some states, to California, New York, and Minnesota permitting the elective killing of children up to the moment of natural birth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;exactly the same.&#8221; Roe invented a constitutional right which existed nowhere. A law prohibiting, say, elective abortions after fifteen weeks, would be on the same level as laws prohibiting all sorts of things. </p>
<p>It would be better for these matters to be handled at the state level, like ordinary homicide codes. But, we have states doing extremes on both ends, from prohibition with limited exceptions in some states, to California, New York, and Minnesota permitting the elective killing of children up to the moment of natural birth.</p>
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		By: Chester Draws		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 07:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But I’m not for national prohibitions on abortion &lt;/i&gt;

The right risks over-playing it&#039;s hand here. 

They argued for decades that Roe was over-reach. A ruling the other way would be exactly the same.

You cannot beat the majority, and most Americans are pro-abortion in at least some circumstances. If the right just is happy Roe is overturned and get on with something else, rather than eternally stoking the abortion flame, they might actually start winning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But I’m not for national prohibitions on abortion </i></p>
<p>The right risks over-playing it&#8217;s hand here. </p>
<p>They argued for decades that Roe was over-reach. A ruling the other way would be exactly the same.</p>
<p>You cannot beat the majority, and most Americans are pro-abortion in at least some circumstances. If the right just is happy Roe is overturned and get on with something else, rather than eternally stoking the abortion flame, they might actually start winning.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 04:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, I have a female friend who is very Christian, but thinks the whole thing about medical abortions is ridiculous. The &quot;morning after&quot; pill, in particular, is, according to her and her background in biology, the most stupid thing to be resistant of... instead of taking the &quot;morning after&quot; pill, if you simply take about 5 or 6 of your normal pills at once, a day or two after the activity, it pretty much guarantees a failure to fully conceive. 

It&#039;s still a violation of the common Christian issue with abortion as &quot;human life at conception&quot;, because it does not prevent the egg from being fertilized, as much as it does stop it from implanting in the womb, but this does happen naturally, regardless, so, harder to directly object to it, and it leaves it on entirely religious grounds.

Later forms of chemical abortions are different, of course, but it&#039;s still highly questionable that it is any business of the government to set laws about it, particularly at the Federal level rather than the state level. The proper way to discourage abortions is and has long been at the individual level, using social pressure and moral and ethical challenges to encourage a desirable decision amongst the possible mothers. Forcing it upon her is just inappropriate, both as a person, a member of American society, and as a Christian. 

Enforced behavior does not create a positive Christian mindset. It infantilizes the victims, and does the devil&#039;s work, because no one appreciates being told what they can and should do on such a critical personal matter. 

Short of certain immediate actions that involve harm to other human beings** or self-harm when &quot;not in one&#039;s proper mind&quot;, they should be avoided like the plague.

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** NO. Don&#039;t even go there. The entire abortion argument, as well as the Euthanasia and Capital Punishment arguments center around &lt;i&gt;legitimate&lt;/i&gt; disagreement over what, precisely, is &quot;a human life&quot;. Without a considerably greater consensus over that concept, it is not a matter of law, but a matter for social and peer pressure to deal with...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I have a female friend who is very Christian, but thinks the whole thing about medical abortions is ridiculous. The &#8220;morning after&#8221; pill, in particular, is, according to her and her background in biology, the most stupid thing to be resistant of&#8230; instead of taking the &#8220;morning after&#8221; pill, if you simply take about 5 or 6 of your normal pills at once, a day or two after the activity, it pretty much guarantees a failure to fully conceive. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a violation of the common Christian issue with abortion as &#8220;human life at conception&#8221;, because it does not prevent the egg from being fertilized, as much as it does stop it from implanting in the womb, but this does happen naturally, regardless, so, harder to directly object to it, and it leaves it on entirely religious grounds.</p>
<p>Later forms of chemical abortions are different, of course, but it&#8217;s still highly questionable that it is any business of the government to set laws about it, particularly at the Federal level rather than the state level. The proper way to discourage abortions is and has long been at the individual level, using social pressure and moral and ethical challenges to encourage a desirable decision amongst the possible mothers. Forcing it upon her is just inappropriate, both as a person, a member of American society, and as a Christian. </p>
<p>Enforced behavior does not create a positive Christian mindset. It infantilizes the victims, and does the devil&#8217;s work, because no one appreciates being told what they can and should do on such a critical personal matter. </p>
<p>Short of certain immediate actions that involve harm to other human beings** or self-harm when &#8220;not in one&#8217;s proper mind&#8221;, they should be avoided like the plague.</p>
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** NO. Don&#8217;t even go there. The entire abortion argument, as well as the Euthanasia and Capital Punishment arguments center around <i>legitimate</i> disagreement over what, precisely, is &#8220;a human life&#8221;. Without a considerably greater consensus over that concept, it is not a matter of law, but a matter for social and peer pressure to deal with&#8230;</p>
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		By: cb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Modern day &#039;birth control&#039; is no doubt a blessing.  Abortion for ignoring birth control is another thing entirely.  That&#039;s where &#039;LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness&#039; comes in ~ imo. 

Perhaps it&#039;ll be a moot issue soon?  https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/deagel-population-forecast-of-nearly-70-percent-fewer-americans-by-2025-is-starting-to-look-prophetic/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern day &#8216;birth control&#8217; is no doubt a blessing.  Abortion for ignoring birth control is another thing entirely.  That&#8217;s where &#8216;LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness&#8217; comes in ~ imo. </p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;ll be a moot issue soon?  <a href="https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/deagel-population-forecast-of-nearly-70-percent-fewer-americans-by-2025-is-starting-to-look-prophetic/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/deagel-population-forecast-of-nearly-70-percent-fewer-americans-by-2025-is-starting-to-look-prophetic/</a></p>
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		By: Jimmy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/22/the-abortion-pill-legal-issues/#comment-2676859</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 23:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;You may not trust them, I may not trust them, but if courts grant challenge after challenge to the FDA’s medical judgment, it opens up quite the can of worms.&lt;/i&gt;

That can of worms has already been opened by the FDA, states, and medical boards challenging doctors&#039; medical judgments about Covid treatments. Sauce for the goose and all that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You may not trust them, I may not trust them, but if courts grant challenge after challenge to the FDA’s medical judgment, it opens up quite the can of worms.</i></p>
<p>That can of worms has already been opened by the FDA, states, and medical boards challenging doctors&#8217; medical judgments about Covid treatments. Sauce for the goose and all that.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/22/the-abortion-pill-legal-issues/#comment-2676848</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my understanding that the relaxing of the original restrictions was done without adequate testing and data reporting (as your comments point out). Women whose pregnancies are too advanced, or who have an ectopic pregnancy, can be seriously injured or die from the use of mifepristone, according to what I read. Desperate people will do dangerous things if they can get hold of what they think will solve their troubles.

As to the original FDA approval, the evidence that it was done without proper procedures would have to be air-tight to reverse the approval.

In addition to birth control pills and modern IUDs, fitness trackers are now offering menstrual cycle tracking, which would be very useful for that method of birth control, or as an additional piece of information with the other methods. But these all require maturity and some degree of self-control, which is sadly lacking since there are such a large number of unplanned pregnancies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that the relaxing of the original restrictions was done without adequate testing and data reporting (as your comments point out). Women whose pregnancies are too advanced, or who have an ectopic pregnancy, can be seriously injured or die from the use of mifepristone, according to what I read. Desperate people will do dangerous things if they can get hold of what they think will solve their troubles.</p>
<p>As to the original FDA approval, the evidence that it was done without proper procedures would have to be air-tight to reverse the approval.</p>
<p>In addition to birth control pills and modern IUDs, fitness trackers are now offering menstrual cycle tracking, which would be very useful for that method of birth control, or as an additional piece of information with the other methods. But these all require maturity and some degree of self-control, which is sadly lacking since there are such a large number of unplanned pregnancies.</p>
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