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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/21/open-thread-4-21-23/#comment-2676827</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 20:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rick Cook

And I never was in disagreement with that part of your original thesis.

I&#039;ve been writing versions of that for about 15 years.  The only difference is that, although I agree with you, I&#039;m not 100% certain.  I retain a small bit of hope that something I cannot foresee will improve things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Cook</p>
<p>And I never was in disagreement with that part of your original thesis.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been writing versions of that for about 15 years.  The only difference is that, although I agree with you, I&#8217;m not 100% certain.  I retain a small bit of hope that something I cannot foresee will improve things.</p>
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		By: Rich Cook		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/21/open-thread-4-21-23/#comment-2676795</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo-

My original thesis is still the same
 We are seeing the fruition of what started in the 60&#039;s. The Progs took over the culture and destroyed it. And they took over all of the information establishments and schools. Now men with the attributes of women like Tara are openly threatening violence if they don&#039;t get their way, and, the mass murders. We are on a path we cannot get off of and the end is going to be very bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo-</p>
<p>My original thesis is still the same<br />
 We are seeing the fruition of what started in the 60&#8217;s. The Progs took over the culture and destroyed it. And they took over all of the information establishments and schools. Now men with the attributes of women like Tara are openly threatening violence if they don&#8217;t get their way, and, the mass murders. We are on a path we cannot get off of and the end is going to be very bad.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/21/open-thread-4-21-23/#comment-2676792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PA Cat, saw that! Excellent. No company should keep an employee who deliberately exposed it to this kind of market damage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PA Cat, saw that! Excellent. No company should keep an employee who deliberately exposed it to this kind of market damage.</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/21/open-thread-4-21-23/#comment-2676781</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PA+Cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 05:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate-- If it&#039;s any comfort to you, the marketing executive responsible for the Dylan Mulvaney/Bud Light fiasco has taken a leave of absence: &quot;Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for the popular beer, will be replaced by Budweiser global marketing VP Todd Allen, AdAge reported on Friday. Heinerscheid has led the brand since June. It’s unclear if her replacement will be permanent.&quot;

https://nypost.com/2023/04/21/bud-light-replaces-marketing-exec-behind-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-report/

Allen, BTW, looks like a stereotypical 40-something beer drinker, with a mustache and trimmed beard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate&#8211; If it&#8217;s any comfort to you, the marketing executive responsible for the Dylan Mulvaney/Bud Light fiasco has taken a leave of absence: &#8220;Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for the popular beer, will be replaced by Budweiser global marketing VP Todd Allen, AdAge reported on Friday. Heinerscheid has led the brand since June. It’s unclear if her replacement will be permanent.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://nypost.com/2023/04/21/bud-light-replaces-marketing-exec-behind-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-report/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2023/04/21/bud-light-replaces-marketing-exec-behind-dylan-mulvaney-partnership-report/</a></p>
<p>Allen, BTW, looks like a stereotypical 40-something beer drinker, with a mustache and trimmed beard.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 04:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A diversion from a was/were murderer and a totally corrupt federal agency.

&lt;b&gt;Bakhmut vs World War 1 - Similarities &#038; Differences - Military History Not Visualized&lt;/b&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rldz7PyzKZQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A diversion from a was/were murderer and a totally corrupt federal agency.</p>
<p><b>Bakhmut vs World War 1 &#8211; Similarities &amp; Differences &#8211; Military History Not Visualized</b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rldz7PyzKZQ" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rldz7PyzKZQ</a></p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/21/open-thread-4-21-23/#comment-2676776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turtler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 04:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Neo, @T.J

As I have one last meal before returning to a liquid diet, one more reason for the determined resistance to release the manifesto came to me. That it would seriously undermine attempts to paint the killer as another victim because of some reason - perhaps something so nakedly psychopathic it would destroy sympathy for the murderer by all but the most blinkered or fanatical and make it indefensible to carry water for them, or the depths of the plans that shows how It (a set of pronouns I find appropriate for a vile monster that dehumanized withers and deserves to be dehumanized to some degree in turn) had no sympathy for the public at general.

The Morrell letter and admissions shows that our “law enforcement” and “intelligence” agencies are more than capable of lying to help the left’s narrative, and the excuse is threadbare as Neo says. I feel this is part of some holding action.

Though this is just a theory, and I possess no special or inside knowledge and I certainly do not think it was the only or main reason. But I can easily believe it was a secondary one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neo, @T.J</p>
<p>As I have one last meal before returning to a liquid diet, one more reason for the determined resistance to release the manifesto came to me. That it would seriously undermine attempts to paint the killer as another victim because of some reason &#8211; perhaps something so nakedly psychopathic it would destroy sympathy for the murderer by all but the most blinkered or fanatical and make it indefensible to carry water for them, or the depths of the plans that shows how It (a set of pronouns I find appropriate for a vile monster that dehumanized withers and deserves to be dehumanized to some degree in turn) had no sympathy for the public at general.</p>
<p>The Morrell letter and admissions shows that our “law enforcement” and “intelligence” agencies are more than capable of lying to help the left’s narrative, and the excuse is threadbare as Neo says. I feel this is part of some holding action.</p>
<p>Though this is just a theory, and I possess no special or inside knowledge and I certainly do not think it was the only or main reason. But I can easily believe it was a secondary one.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 03:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T J:

That excuse, of course, is complete garbage.  The manifesto, the journals, none of that is a wholistic document that cannot be subdivided into parts.  Publish the psychological parts and leave out all the practical stuff.  Such an approach is hardly rocket science.

The Columbine shooters also planned a &quot;total destruction&quot; that was only made public many years later, by the way.  They didn&#039;t carry it out as planned, but they tried.  Audrey Hale obviously didn&#039;t carry out her &quot;total destruction&quot; plan, either.  No one&#039;s asking to know what it was.

And if you want to know about what the Columbine killers actually &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/17/columbine-massacre-gun-crime-us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;intended to do&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt; First, they wanted to detonate two propane bombs in the cafeteria, killing not only the 600 or so students taking early lunch but also students in the library above, which they hoped would come crashing down. Then, as the rest of the school swarmed for the exits, they would open fire with semiautomatic weapons from two positions in the car park.

Assuming they survived that phase - they did not expect to - they would then ram their cars, loaded with more propane explosive, into arriving rescue workers, television news teams and police for one ghastly final conflagration. They were hoping for a death toll of at least 2,000, matching the student population of the school.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T J:</p>
<p>That excuse, of course, is complete garbage.  The manifesto, the journals, none of that is a wholistic document that cannot be subdivided into parts.  Publish the psychological parts and leave out all the practical stuff.  Such an approach is hardly rocket science.</p>
<p>The Columbine shooters also planned a &#8220;total destruction&#8221; that was only made public many years later, by the way.  They didn&#8217;t carry it out as planned, but they tried.  Audrey Hale obviously didn&#8217;t carry out her &#8220;total destruction&#8221; plan, either.  No one&#8217;s asking to know what it was.</p>
<p>And if you want to know about what the Columbine killers actually <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/17/columbine-massacre-gun-crime-us" rel="nofollow ugc">intended to do</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p> First, they wanted to detonate two propane bombs in the cafeteria, killing not only the 600 or so students taking early lunch but also students in the library above, which they hoped would come crashing down. Then, as the rest of the school swarmed for the exits, they would open fire with semiautomatic weapons from two positions in the car park.</p>
<p>Assuming they survived that phase &#8211; they did not expect to &#8211; they would then ram their cars, loaded with more propane explosive, into arriving rescue workers, television news teams and police for one ghastly final conflagration. They were hoping for a death toll of at least 2,000, matching the student population of the school.</p></blockquote>
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		By: West TX Intermediate Crude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 02:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There will eventually be a violent conflict between a &quot;Tara&quot; and a normal.
The normal will be charged with battery or assault, or worse, depending on the outcome and the jurisdiction.
There will be jury nullification in some of these, despite clear evidence that the normal initiated the physical altercation  trying to keep a guy from going into the women&#039;s restroom where his wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter has entered..
Then there will be more nullification when it becomes clear that the purpose of the police is to protect the criminal from the victim, and the police are no longer doing their job. 
Or, more efficiently, the woman&#039;s or girl&#039;s boyfriend, husband, brothers, or other interested males will pay a visit to the man in woman&#039;s clothing and convince him to reconsider his MO. Ideally without witnesses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will eventually be a violent conflict between a &#8220;Tara&#8221; and a normal.<br />
The normal will be charged with battery or assault, or worse, depending on the outcome and the jurisdiction.<br />
There will be jury nullification in some of these, despite clear evidence that the normal initiated the physical altercation  trying to keep a guy from going into the women&#8217;s restroom where his wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter has entered..<br />
Then there will be more nullification when it becomes clear that the purpose of the police is to protect the criminal from the victim, and the police are no longer doing their job.<br />
Or, more efficiently, the woman&#8217;s or girl&#8217;s boyfriend, husband, brothers, or other interested males will pay a visit to the man in woman&#8217;s clothing and convince him to reconsider his MO. Ideally without witnesses.</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/21/open-thread-4-21-23/#comment-2676763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 01:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(CONTINUED)
Apparently, the characterization was used by a Nashville Metro council member who states that she wrote a devilishly useful and methodical plan of attack, a roadmap too serious to be seen by would-be school shooters. 

But why can&#039;t the manifesto be released without these details?

&quot;Rep. Tim Burchett, (R-Tenn.) told The Post he knew the FBI was behind the delay, saying the news was &#039;disappointing&#039; and calling for documents to be released to grieving loved ones as well as members of Congress.

&quot;The manifesto &#039;could maybe tell us a little bit about what’s going on inside of her head,&#039; he added. &#039;I think that would answer a lot of questions.

&quot;Twenty journals, five laptops, a suicide note and various other notes written by Hale were seized from the house she shared with her parents as well as two memoirs, five Covenant School yearbooks and seven cellphones, according to a search warrant.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(CONTINUED)<br />
Apparently, the characterization was used by a Nashville Metro council member who states that she wrote a devilishly useful and methodical plan of attack, a roadmap too serious to be seen by would-be school shooters. </p>
<p>But why can&#8217;t the manifesto be released without these details?</p>
<p>&#8220;Rep. Tim Burchett, (R-Tenn.) told The Post he knew the FBI was behind the delay, saying the news was &#8216;disappointing&#8217; and calling for documents to be released to grieving loved ones as well as members of Congress.</p>
<p>&#8220;The manifesto &#8216;could maybe tell us a little bit about what’s going on inside of her head,&#8217; he added. &#8216;I think that would answer a lot of questions.</p>
<p>&#8220;Twenty journals, five laptops, a suicide note and various other notes written by Hale were seized from the house she shared with her parents as well as two memoirs, five Covenant School yearbooks and seven cellphones, according to a search warrant.&#8221;</p>
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		By: T J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2023 01:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of trans controversy, the NYPost adds to the fire over Nashville shooter Audrey
Hale&#039;s hidden manifesto:

&quot;Audrey Hale manifesto a ‘blueprint on total destruction’ say pols, who claim FBI is stalling its release
4/21/2023, 7:00:35 PM
NY Post ^ &#124; 04 20 2023 &#124; Stephanie Pagones

&quot;Nashville shooter Audrey Hale’s manifesto is a &#039;blueprint on total destruction&#039; which the FBI are stalling releasing, according to local politicians, who describe its contents as &#039;astronomically dangerous&#039;.&quot;

So, the writer compares this to a Bruce Willis 1990s planetary disaster flick?

Or what is an &quot;astronomical danger&#039;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of trans controversy, the NYPost adds to the fire over Nashville shooter Audrey<br />
Hale&#8217;s hidden manifesto:</p>
<p>&#8220;Audrey Hale manifesto a ‘blueprint on total destruction’ say pols, who claim FBI is stalling its release<br />
4/21/2023, 7:00:35 PM<br />
NY Post ^ | 04 20 2023 | Stephanie Pagones</p>
<p>&#8220;Nashville shooter Audrey Hale’s manifesto is a &#8216;blueprint on total destruction&#8217; which the FBI are stalling releasing, according to local politicians, who describe its contents as &#8216;astronomically dangerous&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, the writer compares this to a Bruce Willis 1990s planetary disaster flick?</p>
<p>Or what is an &#8220;astronomical danger&#8217;?</p>
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