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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heh, The New Republic has decided to go after Naomi Wolf.
To be expected....
&quot;The Madness of Naomi Wolf;
&#039;The “Beauty Myth” author has gone from being a feminist icon to an anti-vaxxer banned by Twitter. But she’s always struggled with the truth.&#039;---
&quot;https://newrepublic.com/article/162702/naomi-wolf-madness-feminist-icon-antivaxxer
File under: Wolf is certainly NOT the only one who is &quot;struggl[ing] with the truth&quot;: The pathetic depravity of TNR....(Alas, poor publication; we knew it...once...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, The New Republic has decided to go after Naomi Wolf.<br />
To be expected&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;The Madness of Naomi Wolf;<br />
&#8216;The “Beauty Myth” author has gone from being a feminist icon to an anti-vaxxer banned by Twitter. But she’s always struggled with the truth.&#8217;&#8212;<br />
&#8220;https://newrepublic.com/article/162702/naomi-wolf-madness-feminist-icon-antivaxxer<br />
File under: Wolf is certainly NOT the only one who is &#8220;struggl[ing] with the truth&#8221;: The pathetic depravity of TNR&#8230;.(Alas, poor publication; we knew it&#8230;once&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676490</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 08:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tucker Carlson, on 4/19/23:
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-robert-f-kennedy-jr-face-extremism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;...So, at this point, the question isn&#039;t who in public life is corrupt? Too many to count. The question is who is telling the truth? There are not many of those. One of them is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Robert Kennedy knew early that the COVID vaccines were both ineffective and potentially dangerous and he said so in public to the extent he was allowed. Science has since proven Robert F. Kennedy Jr. right. Unequivocally right.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

As usual, thoroughly researched, definitive, conclusive. 

And a very big splash for &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.foxnews.com/politics/robert-f-kennedy-jr-launches-democratic-challenge-biden-vows-fight-corporate-feudalism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;RFK Jr on his announcement day&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tucker Carlson, on 4/19/23:<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-democrats-robert-f-kennedy-jr-face-extremism" rel="nofollow ugc"><i>&#8230;So, at this point, the question isn&#8217;t who in public life is corrupt? Too many to count. The question is who is telling the truth? There are not many of those. One of them is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Robert Kennedy knew early that the COVID vaccines were both ineffective and potentially dangerous and he said so in public to the extent he was allowed. Science has since proven Robert F. Kennedy Jr. right. Unequivocally right.</i></a></p>
<p>As usual, thoroughly researched, definitive, conclusive. </p>
<p>And a very big splash for <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/robert-f-kennedy-jr-launches-democratic-challenge-biden-vows-fight-corporate-feudalism" rel="nofollow ugc">RFK Jr on his announcement day</a>.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 23:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick, I absolutely agree that the comment sections of blogs are not always optimal for conveying meaning or gleaning another&#039;s understanding.

Time will tell how this &quot;brew&quot;-ha-ha plays out, but so far your prediction about the very temporary impact to AB-Inbev&#039;s stock price has been accurate. It&#039;s nearly back to where it was pre-controversy. I&#039;m hoping it has an impact and forces companies to be more reluctant to enter politically controversial territory in their advertising, but it&#039;s just a wishful prediction at this point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick, I absolutely agree that the comment sections of blogs are not always optimal for conveying meaning or gleaning another&#8217;s understanding.</p>
<p>Time will tell how this &#8220;brew&#8221;-ha-ha plays out, but so far your prediction about the very temporary impact to AB-Inbev&#8217;s stock price has been accurate. It&#8217;s nearly back to where it was pre-controversy. I&#8217;m hoping it has an impact and forces companies to be more reluctant to enter politically controversial territory in their advertising, but it&#8217;s just a wishful prediction at this point.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676445</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 23:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fredrick don&#039;t become a Bunge.  RTF isn&#039;t a liar, IMO.  

It could be that you don&#039;t write as well as you imagine, or your cynicism bleeds through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredrick don&#8217;t become a Bunge.  RTF isn&#8217;t a liar, IMO.  </p>
<p>It could be that you don&#8217;t write as well as you imagine, or your cynicism bleeds through.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[almost all beverage companies are zombie, but budweiser has more strongly associated with patriotic values other than coors,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almost all beverage companies are zombie, but budweiser has more strongly associated with patriotic values other than coors,</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Rufus: &lt;i&gt;You posted this here at 1:59pm&lt;/i&gt;

I posted some other things at other times in this thread and in others which make it clear what I meant. I already called the ones from THIS thread out to you in this very thread at 5:00 pm. Maybe you missed them. Repeatedly. But in case a third time makes a difference, see my 2:16 pm and 3:59 pm.

There have been several times now where you claimed you were paraphrasing my views. Each time I repudiated that characterization and more than once pointed to what I actually said.

We all have to decide how much and often to say things in the short form we have here. Say too much and people tune out. Say too little and people misunderstand. Repeat too little and people miss you said it, repeat too much and lose their attention. It&#039;s not an easy balance. On top of that it&#039;s hard work to keep track of who says what when to whom and so it&#039;s easy to mischaracterize people.

There&#039;s a little too much flavor of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ditext.com/carroll/tortoise.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;What The Tortoise Said To Achilles&lt;/a&gt; here and it must be getting dull for everyone. Rufus, I think you normally mean well and have good things to say; sometimes try as we might we don&#039;t all understand each other. Perhaps I&#039;m not trying hard enough to understand you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rufus: <i>You posted this here at 1:59pm</i></p>
<p>I posted some other things at other times in this thread and in others which make it clear what I meant. I already called the ones from THIS thread out to you in this very thread at 5:00 pm. Maybe you missed them. Repeatedly. But in case a third time makes a difference, see my 2:16 pm and 3:59 pm.</p>
<p>There have been several times now where you claimed you were paraphrasing my views. Each time I repudiated that characterization and more than once pointed to what I actually said.</p>
<p>We all have to decide how much and often to say things in the short form we have here. Say too much and people tune out. Say too little and people misunderstand. Repeat too little and people miss you said it, repeat too much and lose their attention. It&#8217;s not an easy balance. On top of that it&#8217;s hard work to keep track of who says what when to whom and so it&#8217;s easy to mischaracterize people.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a little too much flavor of <a href="http://www.ditext.com/carroll/tortoise.html" rel="nofollow ugc">What The Tortoise Said To Achilles</a> here and it must be getting dull for everyone. Rufus, I think you normally mean well and have good things to say; sometimes try as we might we don&#8217;t all understand each other. Perhaps I&#8217;m not trying hard enough to understand you.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick,

I appreciate what you write on this site and I am no way angry, just trying to reason to some truth, but here&#039;s one of several examples I am responding to. You posted this here at 1:59pm (emphasis mine):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Unless you want to grow all your food and make all your own stuff, you &lt;strong&gt;can’t boycott&lt;/strong&gt; the funders of Woke. The corporations you depend on for your lifestyle are stupid huge and cover a ridiculous number of brands.

&lt;strong&gt;“Boycotting” BudLight&lt;/strong&gt; is for the Right what sorting their trash is for the Left: &lt;strong&gt;it’s a pointless activity&lt;/strong&gt; that’s simple and makes people think they’re “helping” but without involving any kind of meaningful lifestyle sacrifice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick,</p>
<p>I appreciate what you write on this site and I am no way angry, just trying to reason to some truth, but here&#8217;s one of several examples I am responding to. You posted this here at 1:59pm (emphasis mine):</p>
<blockquote><p>Unless you want to grow all your food and make all your own stuff, you <strong>can’t boycott</strong> the funders of Woke. The corporations you depend on for your lifestyle are stupid huge and cover a ridiculous number of brands.</p>
<p><strong>“Boycotting” BudLight</strong> is for the Right what sorting their trash is for the Left: <strong>it’s a pointless activity</strong> that’s simple and makes people think they’re “helping” but without involving any kind of meaningful lifestyle sacrifice.</p></blockquote>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Globetrotters are being misunderstood and musconstrued.  Maybey not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Globetrotters are being misunderstood and musconstrued.  Maybey not.</p>
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		By: Steph		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676419</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Weihenstephaner.
DAB.
Ayinger.
Pinkus.

All great beers. Not woke. 
Get to know your local distributor. Most of the ones I know are interested in doing one thing really well - sell great beers and build a loyal clientele -- a clientele who wants to enjoy great beers, not be lectured to.
This isn&#039;t hard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weihenstephaner.<br />
DAB.<br />
Ayinger.<br />
Pinkus.</p>
<p>All great beers. Not woke.<br />
Get to know your local distributor. Most of the ones I know are interested in doing one thing really well &#8211; sell great beers and build a loyal clientele &#8212; a clientele who wants to enjoy great beers, not be lectured to.<br />
This isn&#8217;t hard.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/open-thread-4-19-23/#comment-2676418</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Rufus:&lt;i&gt;However, you keep writing words discouraging people who want to do this one thing; stop drinking Bud Light, or, a slightly bigger thing; stop drinking AB-Inbev products, because they are not willing to do everything.&lt;/i&gt;

Please stop misrepresenting me, thanks. I&#039;d prefer you just ignored my posts entirely. This is like the third different way you&#039;ve done it, and because you&#039;re carefully reading my every word, you say, you&#039;re not accidentally doing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rufus:<i>However, you keep writing words discouraging people who want to do this one thing; stop drinking Bud Light, or, a slightly bigger thing; stop drinking AB-Inbev products, because they are not willing to do everything.</i></p>
<p>Please stop misrepresenting me, thanks. I&#8217;d prefer you just ignored my posts entirely. This is like the third different way you&#8217;ve done it, and because you&#8217;re carefully reading my every word, you say, you&#8217;re not accidentally doing it.</p>
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