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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676545</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Texeira&quot; is an unusual name for a non-Hispanic white. His grandfather immigrated from the Azores. He has better claim to Hispanic ethnicity than say, &quot;Hilaria&quot; Baldwin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Texeira&#8221; is an unusual name for a non-Hispanic white. His grandfather immigrated from the Azores. He has better claim to Hispanic ethnicity than say, &#8220;Hilaria&#8221; Baldwin.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676491</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 08:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...backstage maneuvering...&quot;

Indeed.
&quot;Leaker, Whistleblower, Racist, Spy;
&quot;If the story of one of the largest security breaches in U.S. history sounds too good to be true, maybe that’s because it is?&quot;---
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/leaker-whistleblower-racist-spy
Key grafs:
&#039;...[O]nce again, the Democrats have turned a national security issue into an instrument to serve party interests....
&#039;...House Speaker Kevin McCarthy tweeted that “The Biden administration has failed to secure classified information” and he promised to get answers. But that’s unlikely, given that the same intelligence bureaucracy that can’t store American secrets securely also routinely leaks those secrets for political and institutional advantage.
&#039;...So how did it take U.S. spy agencies nearly half a year to discover a historic leak of classified intelligence occurring in real time on right-wing websites?
&#039; Maybe it didn’t take that long. Maybe they had been watching for a while. In any event, the administration is already using the leak to justify more internet surveillance, censorship, and propaganda....
&#039; The other sure thing is that the political faction Biden heads will see Texeira’s crime as an opportunity to target its political opponents. And this is why the FBI coordinated with the press to set the narrative. White, Christian, working-class, a gun enthusiast who makes jokes about minorities: Texeira is one of them, a deplorable, an insurrectionist....&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;backstage maneuvering&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed.<br />
&#8220;Leaker, Whistleblower, Racist, Spy;<br />
&#8220;If the story of one of the largest security breaches in U.S. history sounds too good to be true, maybe that’s because it is?&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/leaker-whistleblower-racist-spy" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/leaker-whistleblower-racist-spy</a><br />
Key grafs:<br />
&#8216;&#8230;[O]nce again, the Democrats have turned a national security issue into an instrument to serve party interests&#8230;.<br />
&#8216;&#8230;House Speaker Kevin McCarthy tweeted that “The Biden administration has failed to secure classified information” and he promised to get answers. But that’s unlikely, given that the same intelligence bureaucracy that can’t store American secrets securely also routinely leaks those secrets for political and institutional advantage.<br />
&#8216;&#8230;So how did it take U.S. spy agencies nearly half a year to discover a historic leak of classified intelligence occurring in real time on right-wing websites?<br />
&#8216; Maybe it didn’t take that long. Maybe they had been watching for a while. In any event, the administration is already using the leak to justify more internet surveillance, censorship, and propaganda&#8230;.<br />
&#8216; The other sure thing is that the political faction Biden heads will see Texeira’s crime as an opportunity to target its political opponents. And this is why the FBI coordinated with the press to set the narrative. White, Christian, working-class, a gun enthusiast who makes jokes about minorities: Texeira is one of them, a deplorable, an insurrectionist&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676457</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 00:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@miguel: What I think you know, but not everyone knows, is that the votes in Congress for or against a bill are not the process, but the outcome of the process, and what the party leadership and whips are experts in is figuring out how to arrange a vote that gets the desired thing done but avoids accountability* for the vulnerable. It&#039;s not much like &lt;i&gt;Mr Smith Goes to Washington&lt;/i&gt; or even &lt;i&gt;Schoolhouse Rock&lt;/i&gt;. You can see it at the state level too if you hang around your state Capitol enough.

And it&#039;s this backstage maneuvering that doesn&#039;t get written about; there&#039;s not many people who see it happen, and it&#039;s boring. The public statements and the culture war are there to distract from it.

*Each party has its Designated Mavericks which can take 100% of the blame, if necessary, in a closely divided Senate. There&#039;s a lot of yakking about them in the media but they never get punished by losing committee seats or having their office moved to a broom closet or anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@miguel: What I think you know, but not everyone knows, is that the votes in Congress for or against a bill are not the process, but the outcome of the process, and what the party leadership and whips are experts in is figuring out how to arrange a vote that gets the desired thing done but avoids accountability* for the vulnerable. It&#8217;s not much like <i>Mr Smith Goes to Washington</i> or even <i>Schoolhouse Rock</i>. You can see it at the state level too if you hang around your state Capitol enough.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s this backstage maneuvering that doesn&#8217;t get written about; there&#8217;s not many people who see it happen, and it&#8217;s boring. The public statements and the culture war are there to distract from it.</p>
<p>*Each party has its Designated Mavericks which can take 100% of the blame, if necessary, in a closely divided Senate. There&#8217;s a lot of yakking about them in the media but they never get punished by losing committee seats or having their office moved to a broom closet or anything.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676441</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 23:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it happens most often then not like when they give an opening to the infrastructure bill or they vote for one or another horrible nominee, and then they complain, like the lion about the scorpion and the frog]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it happens most often then not like when they give an opening to the infrastructure bill or they vote for one or another horrible nominee, and then they complain, like the lion about the scorpion and the frog</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick:

It happens so often that &quot;every time&quot; is not hyperbole and may even literally be true. And although of course the information is often not in the MSM, I never said it was. But it IS in the blogosphere on the right.

Whether the information leads to any change is an entirely different issue. But the information is readily available.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick:</p>
<p>It happens so often that &#8220;every time&#8221; is not hyperbole and may even literally be true. And although of course the information is often not in the MSM, I never said it was. But it IS in the blogosphere on the right.</p>
<p>Whether the information leads to any change is an entirely different issue. But the information is readily available.</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@neo:&lt;i&gt;Every time&lt;/i&gt; is a bold statement. I know you see lots of them, and so do I. It&#039;s a blogging mainstay. I&#039;m not saying that never happens, I&#039;m saying that &quot;[such] articles... omit the information actually needed to understand what is really going on&quot;, and &quot;the mainstream media will have their narrative, and the Right-leaning media and blogosphere will start with that narrative and tweak it a little, and we’ll get conned one more time&quot;.

None of these are refuted by your observation. And it&#039;s not like much happens to the &quot;turncoats&quot;, is it? Sometimes we find out later, like 7 years later in the case of the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act. And then we chase the next squirrel the media releases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neo:<i>Every time</i> is a bold statement. I know you see lots of them, and so do I. It&#8217;s a blogging mainstay. I&#8217;m not saying that never happens, I&#8217;m saying that &#8220;[such] articles&#8230; omit the information actually needed to understand what is really going on&#8221;, and &#8220;the mainstream media will have their narrative, and the Right-leaning media and blogosphere will start with that narrative and tweak it a little, and we’ll get conned one more time&#8221;.</p>
<p>None of these are refuted by your observation. And it&#8217;s not like much happens to the &#8220;turncoats&#8221;, is it? Sometimes we find out later, like 7 years later in the case of the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act. And then we chase the next squirrel the media releases.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frederick:

Every time an act of Congress is passed by the left with cooperation from a few people (or many) on the right, I see articles on the right listing the turncoats. Over and over, for the whole time I&#039;ve been blogging.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederick:</p>
<p>Every time an act of Congress is passed by the left with cooperation from a few people (or many) on the right, I see articles on the right listing the turncoats. Over and over, for the whole time I&#8217;ve been blogging.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe there’s a sorting going on, with Republicans who at heart were the old stereotypical country club, business before all else types deciding they don’t fit anymore and departing, and others who were pretty conventional low tax, small government, simple patriotism Republicans realizing that the Democrats simply don’t believe in anything like the same system they do, and therefore can’t be worked with on the basis that they’re working toward the same goal by the same rules. That’s a pretty un-Romneyish remark from Romney. Maybe a good sign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there’s a sorting going on, with Republicans who at heart were the old stereotypical country club, business before all else types deciding they don’t fit anymore and departing, and others who were pretty conventional low tax, small government, simple patriotism Republicans realizing that the Democrats simply don’t believe in anything like the same system they do, and therefore can’t be worked with on the basis that they’re working toward the same goal by the same rules. That’s a pretty un-Romneyish remark from Romney. Maybe a good sign.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676427</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 22:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the usual desinforma, first link

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/apr/19/instagram-posts/would-the-restrict-act-criminalize-the-use-of-vpns/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the usual desinforma, first link</p>
<p><a href="https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/apr/19/instagram-posts/would-the-restrict-act-criminalize-the-use-of-vpns/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/apr/19/instagram-posts/would-the-restrict-act-criminalize-the-use-of-vpns/</a></p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/19/on-the-gop-and-fighting-the-left/#comment-2676426</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 21:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@neo: &lt;i&gt; I see articles about them. &lt;/i&gt;

You do. Articles that omit the information actually needed to understand what is really going on.

A few weeks ago we were talking about the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act, it was in an article that mysteriously started with Obama signing the law, and neglected to mention how the law got passed by a Republican Senate with only one &quot;no&quot; vote.

I took some time to go over that, and I pieced together how it was done. I had to tease it out of a bunch of disconnected stuff , including some clues found on the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.senate.gov/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;Senate&#039;s website.&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s going to be the same with these other things: the mainstream media will have their narrative, and the Right-leaning media and blogosphere will start with that narrative and tweak it a little, and we&#039;ll get conned one more time.

But it&#039;s hard boring work to dig the missing facts out of everything that way. It would be hard to make that sort of work pay and people who have day jobs can&#039;t find that kind of time, and maybe not even an audience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neo: <i> I see articles about them. </i></p>
<p>You do. Articles that omit the information actually needed to understand what is really going on.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago we were talking about the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act, it was in an article that mysteriously started with Obama signing the law, and neglected to mention how the law got passed by a Republican Senate with only one &#8220;no&#8221; vote.</p>
<p>I took some time to go over that, and I pieced together how it was done. I had to tease it out of a bunch of disconnected stuff , including some clues found on the <a href="https://www.senate.gov/" rel="nofollow ugc">Senate&#8217;s website.</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be the same with these other things: the mainstream media will have their narrative, and the Right-leaning media and blogosphere will start with that narrative and tweak it a little, and we&#8217;ll get conned one more time.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s hard boring work to dig the missing facts out of everything that way. It would be hard to make that sort of work pay and people who have day jobs can&#8217;t find that kind of time, and maybe not even an audience.</p>
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