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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2023 13:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nonapod from the top:

Patel, a former federal prosecutor, said he does not believe “for a single second, this guy — a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman — ran this operation alone.”
I have no opinion on whether he must have acted alone or not. I’ll just observe that just because a former Federal prosecuter (a lawyer) can’t imagine a way some kid could gain access to such information without help doesn’t mean it can’t be done. But who knows?
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A biographical rejoinder about Patel —  besides assisting DNI director Grenell, — which illuminates the source that nonapod questions.

Kesh Patel is a lawyer who long did terrorist counter-intelligence as an FBI Special Agent. In short, Patel KNOWS because he’s been at the bottom and at the top of the Intel Info-space food chain or hierarchy. His experience reinforces his claims to substance and authoritative insight.

These are sound grounds for believing him. He’s got the wide-ranging exposure to secret federal information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonapod from the top:</p>
<p>Patel, a former federal prosecutor, said he does not believe “for a single second, this guy — a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman — ran this operation alone.”<br />
I have no opinion on whether he must have acted alone or not. I’ll just observe that just because a former Federal prosecuter (a lawyer) can’t imagine a way some kid could gain access to such information without help doesn’t mean it can’t be done. But who knows?<br />
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<p>A biographical rejoinder about Patel —  besides assisting DNI director Grenell, — which illuminates the source that nonapod questions.</p>
<p>Kesh Patel is a lawyer who long did terrorist counter-intelligence as an FBI Special Agent. In short, Patel KNOWS because he’s been at the bottom and at the top of the Intel Info-space food chain or hierarchy. His experience reinforces his claims to substance and authoritative insight.</p>
<p>These are sound grounds for believing him. He’s got the wide-ranging exposure to secret federal information.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 18:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How can one possibly know that the leaks are, in fact, genuine or whether they are false and have been planted (as in, what does this administration WANT people to believe, to think, to conclude? Or IOW, which tree/trees do they want people, or agencies, allies or enemies barking up? And why might they want this?)
Seems to me that if they have you totally skeptical about, ie disbelieving EVERYTHING, then they’ve essentially encrypted EVERYTHING.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can one possibly know that the leaks are, in fact, genuine or whether they are false and have been planted (as in, what does this administration WANT people to believe, to think, to conclude? Or IOW, which tree/trees do they want people, or agencies, allies or enemies barking up? And why might they want this?)<br />
Seems to me that if they have you totally skeptical about, ie disbelieving EVERYTHING, then they’ve essentially encrypted EVERYTHING.</p>
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		By: Bruce Hayden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Hayden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Bruce.
System administrators may be near to magic in their ability to roam the system, if we are getting the correct explanation. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

But this is such a well known vulnerability. Back in the early 1980s, 40 years ago, I had a DOE Q clearance. At Sandia, when a disk containing classified information (typically related to nuclear weapons designs) was mounted, a red light was set flashing in the computer room, and Need To Know was imposed on the systems console. I could muck around with the systems internals at other times, but wasn’t allowed to linger in the computer room when that red light was flashing. My point is that even back then, the systems administrator vulnerability was known. And, my question, of why, in 2023, this vulnerability isn’t vigorously addressed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Bruce.<br />
System administrators may be near to magic in their ability to roam the system, if we are getting the correct explanation. </p></blockquote>
<p>But this is such a well known vulnerability. Back in the early 1980s, 40 years ago, I had a DOE Q clearance. At Sandia, when a disk containing classified information (typically related to nuclear weapons designs) was mounted, a red light was set flashing in the computer room, and Need To Know was imposed on the systems console. I could muck around with the systems internals at other times, but wasn’t allowed to linger in the computer room when that red light was flashing. My point is that even back then, the systems administrator vulnerability was known. And, my question, of why, in 2023, this vulnerability isn’t vigorously addressed.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[volodya knows that the dems are an easy mark, under w they closed out the georgian invasion, with about 100 days, under obama they handed out food rations and medical supplies,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>volodya knows that the dems are an easy mark, under w they closed out the georgian invasion, with about 100 days, under obama they handed out food rations and medical supplies,</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 21:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[n.n

But the invasion of Crimea and formenting civil war in the Donetsk basin in 2014 was mostly peaceful.  Da?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n.n</p>
<p>But the invasion of Crimea and formenting civil war in the Donetsk basin in 2014 was mostly peaceful.  Da?</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 21:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting perspective by a former CIA analyst as to why so much information becomes classified. He worked in the public information sector. Paraphrasing: No one wanted to hear my stuff, even if it was the best information available, but wanted to see the Secret and Top Secret stuff. Hence the tendency to classify everything.

He makes the point that the leaker&#039;s generation, &quot;born with a smartphone in their hand&quot; blurs the digital reality and the physical reality-- to them they are the same, which might explain some of the other pathologies culture is facing.

They spend some time talking about the oath the leaker had to take-- and the fact oaths are almost meaningless to this generation, since they feel they are now able to escape consequences to life.

I don&#039;t agree with his conclusions, but still a thoughtful conversation.

&lt;b&gt;Martin Gurri: The Pentagon leak is only the beginning&lt;/b&gt;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdM_VG6Abs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting perspective by a former CIA analyst as to why so much information becomes classified. He worked in the public information sector. Paraphrasing: No one wanted to hear my stuff, even if it was the best information available, but wanted to see the Secret and Top Secret stuff. Hence the tendency to classify everything.</p>
<p>He makes the point that the leaker&#8217;s generation, &#8220;born with a smartphone in their hand&#8221; blurs the digital reality and the physical reality&#8211; to them they are the same, which might explain some of the other pathologies culture is facing.</p>
<p>They spend some time talking about the oath the leaker had to take&#8211; and the fact oaths are almost meaningless to this generation, since they feel they are now able to escape consequences to life.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with his conclusions, but still a thoughtful conversation.</p>
<p><b>Martin Gurri: The Pentagon leak is only the beginning</b></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdM_VG6Abs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdM_VG6Abs</a></p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[America had the same problem in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, domestic communities, etc.  Short of choosing to open a mass abortion field, planned populationhood, there will be challenges to isolate the general population from those that elect to prey upon them.  Good for the Ukrainians and Russians to avoid indiscriminate abortions and injury of Serbia/Kosovo past and Obama/Biden&#039;s World War Spring series, including the Slavic Spring in progress since the violent overthrow of Kiev in 2014.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America had the same problem in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, domestic communities, etc.  Short of choosing to open a mass abortion field, planned populationhood, there will be challenges to isolate the general population from those that elect to prey upon them.  Good for the Ukrainians and Russians to avoid indiscriminate abortions and injury of Serbia/Kosovo past and Obama/Biden&#8217;s World War Spring series, including the Slavic Spring in progress since the violent overthrow of Kiev in 2014.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 16:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bruce.
System administrators may be near to magic in their ability to roam the system, if we are getting the correct explanation.

It&#039;s the breadth of the take which interests me.  Odd for a guy that young.  If he&#039;s trying to use this to out-count  fellow  rivet-counters in a video game, he wouldn&#039;t be bothering wit ammo orders from South Korea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce.<br />
System administrators may be near to magic in their ability to roam the system, if we are getting the correct explanation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the breadth of the take which interests me.  Odd for a guy that young.  If he&#8217;s trying to use this to out-count  fellow  rivet-counters in a video game, he wouldn&#8217;t be bothering wit ammo orders from South Korea.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 16:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[exactly how would he know what to look for, with boyce, the trw contractor did relay info say to pine gap station in australia, of course they handled the satellites,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly how would he know what to look for, with boyce, the trw contractor did relay info say to pine gap station in australia, of course they handled the satellites,</p>
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		By: Bruce Hayden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Hayden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“I have no opinion on whether he must have acted alone or not. I’ll just observe that just because a former Federal prosecuter (a lawyer) can’t imagine a way some kid could gain access to such information without help doesn’t mean it can’t be done. But who knows?”

It wasn’t that Patel was a federal prosecutor, but that he was speaking as the former deputy DNI, and right hand man to former DNI and Trump’s last NSA, Rick Grenell. When he was the one preparing the PDBs, he had to have had access to practically everything, and didn’t, which both Grenell and he have been pointing out a lot since Trump left office. There was a lot of classified information that turned out to have been withheld from Trump, Grenell, and Patel. BTW, this is likely why the FBI perjury trap was utilized in the first weeks of the Trump Administration to take out Gen Flynn, because he knew a lot of what was being hidden. Oh, and we found with the first Trump Impeachment that much of the missing intelligence involved Ukraine. 

In any case, I think that what Patel was saying is that if he, Grenell, and Trump would have had a hard time getting this information, then there is no way that a low level enlisted Airman should have been able to get access to it. The corollary to that is that someone, or more likely someone’s, who had access to the information had to have fed it to him. One alternative, posed here, is that our system of protecting and maintaining classified information has a fatal weakness - system administrators. If, in 2023, that would be inexcusable. But then, we are dealing with a massive government bureaucracy…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I have no opinion on whether he must have acted alone or not. I’ll just observe that just because a former Federal prosecuter (a lawyer) can’t imagine a way some kid could gain access to such information without help doesn’t mean it can’t be done. But who knows?”</p>
<p>It wasn’t that Patel was a federal prosecutor, but that he was speaking as the former deputy DNI, and right hand man to former DNI and Trump’s last NSA, Rick Grenell. When he was the one preparing the PDBs, he had to have had access to practically everything, and didn’t, which both Grenell and he have been pointing out a lot since Trump left office. There was a lot of classified information that turned out to have been withheld from Trump, Grenell, and Patel. BTW, this is likely why the FBI perjury trap was utilized in the first weeks of the Trump Administration to take out Gen Flynn, because he knew a lot of what was being hidden. Oh, and we found with the first Trump Impeachment that much of the missing intelligence involved Ukraine. </p>
<p>In any case, I think that what Patel was saying is that if he, Grenell, and Trump would have had a hard time getting this information, then there is no way that a low level enlisted Airman should have been able to get access to it. The corollary to that is that someone, or more likely someone’s, who had access to the information had to have fed it to him. One alternative, posed here, is that our system of protecting and maintaining classified information has a fatal weakness &#8211; system administrators. If, in 2023, that would be inexcusable. But then, we are dealing with a massive government bureaucracy…</p>
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