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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just mention civil rights, abstract art or primitive civilizations and you&#039;re in like Flynn.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just mention civil rights, abstract art or primitive civilizations and you&#8217;re in like Flynn.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Grey


Pretty much with regard to your last paragraph, see Myron Magnet-&quot;The Dream and The Nightmare&quot;

Or Dalrymple, &quot;The View From The Bottom&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey</p>
<p>Pretty much with regard to your last paragraph, see Myron Magnet-&#8220;The Dream and The Nightmare&#8221;</p>
<p>Or Dalrymple, &#8220;The View From The Bottom&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 11:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few years ago I saw some article about, with a picture of, Mary Quant.

I&#039;m pretty sure she was the &quot;model&quot; for the short, energetic, black haired costume maker in the the Incredibles movies.

The mini-skirt was great - I thought at the time.  Leading to a LOT more promiscuity, along with the Pill.

But Libertarian-ish consent based promiscuity between adults, with the Lust but without the commitment of Love, is a cultural mistake.  My Dad&#039;s womanizing messed up his first marriage.
And his second.
And his third.

As well as my mother&#039;s first, second, and third marriages.  

The styles that become new and popular are riding a wave of discontent of the past, while guiding the changes in the culture.  Easy sex has arguably been better for college educated women &#038; men, but almost certainly worse for the majority non-college group.

Because &quot;norms&quot; apply to all normals, the norms that help the poor and the low IQ folk the most are better than norms that help the rich &#038; high IQ folk. &quot;Norm comparison&quot; is not yet a much discussed explicit subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago I saw some article about, with a picture of, Mary Quant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure she was the &#8220;model&#8221; for the short, energetic, black haired costume maker in the the Incredibles movies.</p>
<p>The mini-skirt was great &#8211; I thought at the time.  Leading to a LOT more promiscuity, along with the Pill.</p>
<p>But Libertarian-ish consent based promiscuity between adults, with the Lust but without the commitment of Love, is a cultural mistake.  My Dad&#8217;s womanizing messed up his first marriage.<br />
And his second.<br />
And his third.</p>
<p>As well as my mother&#8217;s first, second, and third marriages.  </p>
<p>The styles that become new and popular are riding a wave of discontent of the past, while guiding the changes in the culture.  Easy sex has arguably been better for college educated women &amp; men, but almost certainly worse for the majority non-college group.</p>
<p>Because &#8220;norms&#8221; apply to all normals, the norms that help the poor and the low IQ folk the most are better than norms that help the rich &amp; high IQ folk. &#8220;Norm comparison&#8221; is not yet a much discussed explicit subject.</p>
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		By: ghostsniper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ghostsniper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 19:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We had a dress code in school in the late 60&#039;s, so it was madra&#039;s short sleeved button down shirts, cords, and penny loafers. When school let at 3pm for reasons I don&#039;t remember we all pulled our shirt tails out. We were so rebellious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a dress code in school in the late 60&#8217;s, so it was madra&#8217;s short sleeved button down shirts, cords, and penny loafers. When school let at 3pm for reasons I don&#8217;t remember we all pulled our shirt tails out. We were so rebellious.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Beatles first show on Edd Sullivan is still in my minds eye. My family always went to church on Sunday nite. BUT, family friends dropped by that nite. Fred Woodward , my oldest friend and I still talk about that nite and a black and white tv , and John ,Paul , George and Ringo. 
Close your eyes and I’ll kiss you, tomorrow I’ll miss you , remember I’ll always be true !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Beatles first show on Edd Sullivan is still in my minds eye. My family always went to church on Sunday nite. BUT, family friends dropped by that nite. Fred Woodward , my oldest friend and I still talk about that nite and a black and white tv , and John ,Paul , George and Ringo.<br />
Close your eyes and I’ll kiss you, tomorrow I’ll miss you , remember I’ll always be true !</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S., 

&quot;That Thing You Do&quot;
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117887/

The short time BEFORE the Brit invasion.


&lt;i&gt; I &lt;b&gt;am&lt;/b&gt; Spartacus...&lt;/i&gt;
:-D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S., </p>
<p>&#8220;That Thing You Do&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117887/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117887/</a></p>
<p>The short time BEFORE the Brit invasion.</p>
<p><i> I <b>am</b> Spartacus&#8230;</i><br />
😀</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Diana Rigg in the 60’s.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but Diana Rigg actually had curves. There was no question she was a woman. But yes, she wore a lot of those styles that Neo talks about... the kind you also saw plenty of in the Austin Powers movies.

I am technically a full Boomer, but, TBH, I am actually a Bleeding Edge Gen-Xer. 

The dividing line appears to be the Kennedy Assassination, and I&#039;m a good 4y before that, but in HS I was clearly expressing conservative (actually libertarian, but that term was not common then) values while surrounded by liberals. 

I recall watching The Beatles&#039; Saturday morning cartoon show (though I recall nothing of it), but did not really become a &quot;fan&quot; until I was 12 and discovered Sgt. Pepper and Rubber Soul.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Diana Rigg in the 60’s.</i></p>
<p>Yes, but Diana Rigg actually had curves. There was no question she was a woman. But yes, she wore a lot of those styles that Neo talks about&#8230; the kind you also saw plenty of in the Austin Powers movies.</p>
<p>I am technically a full Boomer, but, TBH, I am actually a Bleeding Edge Gen-Xer. </p>
<p>The dividing line appears to be the Kennedy Assassination, and I&#8217;m a good 4y before that, but in HS I was clearly expressing conservative (actually libertarian, but that term was not common then) values while surrounded by liberals. </p>
<p>I recall watching The Beatles&#8217; Saturday morning cartoon show (though I recall nothing of it), but did not really become a &#8220;fan&#8221; until I was 12 and discovered Sgt. Pepper and Rubber Soul.</p>
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		By: CD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ohh, the memories!  I was a college freshman in &#039;63-64 and had the chain belt around the hips, the short A-line skirts, the little Mondrian color block shifts with tights--many of which I made myself because I learned to sew and they were really quite simple to make.  That fall the Beatles made their first US tour.   Because I had a part time job in the Dean&#039;s office and they somehow snagged some tickets for the event, I was able to buy two and went.   All I remember was that with all the constant screaming it was impossible to tell whether they were singing or not!  That was the one event that has always led my younger brother and sister to hold me in such awe because they were really into the music and concert scene in the 70&#039;s and saw most of the major groups when they were just getting started live at concerts but they never saw the Beatles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh, the memories!  I was a college freshman in &#8217;63-64 and had the chain belt around the hips, the short A-line skirts, the little Mondrian color block shifts with tights&#8211;many of which I made myself because I learned to sew and they were really quite simple to make.  That fall the Beatles made their first US tour.   Because I had a part time job in the Dean&#8217;s office and they somehow snagged some tickets for the event, I was able to buy two and went.   All I remember was that with all the constant screaming it was impossible to tell whether they were singing or not!  That was the one event that has always led my younger brother and sister to hold me in such awe because they were really into the music and concert scene in the 70&#8217;s and saw most of the major groups when they were just getting started live at concerts but they never saw the Beatles.</p>
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		By: Lee Also		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Also]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The photo looks like a still from &quot;Love Story.&quot;]]></description>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And the really crazy thing?  I wore exactly what the guy in Neo&#039;s photo is wearing when I was in college.  And just last week.  And probably ten years from now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the really crazy thing?  I wore exactly what the guy in Neo&#8217;s photo is wearing when I was in college.  And just last week.  And probably ten years from now.</p>
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