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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 14:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Somewhere up there my WW2 vet and holocaust survivor dad is smiling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere up there my WW2 vet and holocaust survivor dad is smiling.</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh look:  A few hours before shutting down their last power-gen nuclear reactor, the German utility announces a 45% rate increase.

https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1647581891485392897/photo/2

&lt;i&gt;&quot;HOURS BEFORE CLOSING REACTOR, GERMAN UTILITY ANNOUNCES 45% PRICE RISE

As Eon closed nuclear, by far its cheapest reliable power, it announced a big jump for many customers from what are already some of Europe&#039;s highest prices.
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https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1647581891485392897

Really hard to understand why the German people are sitting still for things like this...but I guess it&#039;s also hard to understand how much of these policy decisions are Democratically decided.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look:  A few hours before shutting down their last power-gen nuclear reactor, the German utility announces a 45% rate increase.</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1647581891485392897/photo/2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1647581891485392897/photo/2</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;HOURS BEFORE CLOSING REACTOR, GERMAN UTILITY ANNOUNCES 45% PRICE RISE</p>
<p>As Eon closed nuclear, by far its cheapest reliable power, it announced a big jump for many customers from what are already some of Europe&#8217;s highest prices.<br />
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<p><a href="https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1647581891485392897" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1647581891485392897</a></p>
<p>Really hard to understand why the German people are sitting still for things like this&#8230;but I guess it&#8217;s also hard to understand how much of these policy decisions are Democratically decided.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/14/germany-is-shutting-down-its-last-nuclear-power-plants/#comment-2675995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 19:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is going to be worse.&quot;
Um, Richard, it&#039;s SUPPOSED TO BE WORSE.
(But &quot;Biden&quot;---and Justin and Klaus and Greta et al.---gotta save the planet, SOMEHOW!...And if anyone objects, they&#039;re just dumb, trog, Gaia-hating Deplorables...with no sense and no feelings of responsibility for the planet. OUR planet. So of course they deserve whatever they get...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is going to be worse.&#8221;<br />
Um, Richard, it&#8217;s SUPPOSED TO BE WORSE.<br />
(But &#8220;Biden&#8221;&#8212;and Justin and Klaus and Greta et al.&#8212;gotta save the planet, SOMEHOW!&#8230;And if anyone objects, they&#8217;re just dumb, trog, Gaia-hating Deplorables&#8230;with no sense and no feelings of responsibility for the planet. OUR planet. So of course they deserve whatever they get&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not sanity. It&#039;s not lack of engineering knowledge. It&#039;s money. The Russians have long funded the Greens and continue to do so. They hire retired pols to lucrative no-work jobs. 

It takes political courage and capital to stand up to the propaganda. It&#039;s much easier to stand there and say, but my safety! 

Grid crashes happen down the road. The now-wealthy pols will be in someplace warm by then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not sanity. It&#8217;s not lack of engineering knowledge. It&#8217;s money. The Russians have long funded the Greens and continue to do so. They hire retired pols to lucrative no-work jobs. </p>
<p>It takes political courage and capital to stand up to the propaganda. It&#8217;s much easier to stand there and say, but my safety! </p>
<p>Grid crashes happen down the road. The now-wealthy pols will be in someplace warm by then.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you burn hydrogen in the atmosphere--which is about 70% nitrogen--what do you get besides water?  Note that water vapor is a very effective GHG.
So, do we have to burn it in oxygen?  Imagine tooling down the road with two cryogenic tanks heavy enough to contain enough juice to go, say, sixty miles.
The new EV need a half ton of battery to take a sedan two hundred fifty miles.  This is going to be worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you burn hydrogen in the atmosphere&#8211;which is about 70% nitrogen&#8211;what do you get besides water?  Note that water vapor is a very effective GHG.<br />
So, do we have to burn it in oxygen?  Imagine tooling down the road with two cryogenic tanks heavy enough to contain enough juice to go, say, sixty miles.<br />
The new EV need a half ton of battery to take a sedan two hundred fifty miles.  This is going to be worse.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[there&#039;s a simpler question, is there anyone in European leadership who is sane, certainly in the West? Sweden was sane when it came to covid, but crazy in nearly every other way,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s a simpler question, is there anyone in European leadership who is sane, certainly in the West? Sweden was sane when it came to covid, but crazy in nearly every other way,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[antinucleat propaganda in the west, see the cnd, (the hour paints it the most luminous way) soviet designs were among the worst,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>antinucleat propaganda in the west, see the cnd, (the hour paints it the most luminous way) soviet designs were among the worst,</p>
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		By: Cicero		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cicero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Germany long ago decided to phase out both fossil fuels and nuclear power over concerns that neither is a sustainable source of energy.&quot; So Neo cites.
But it was NOT Germans who had a plebiscite to cancel nuclear reactors or fossil fuels for electric generation. It was Angela Merkel, raised under East German communism, who made those decisions. She is/was a member of the &quot;Christian Democratic Union&quot; aka CDU, which ran post-war Germany (remember Konrad Adenhauer?) for decades, who is not a Christian at all. She encouraged several million young male Muslims from Syria and elsewhere to migrate to Germany, where many remain on the dole,  and native Germans were evicted by their government in order to house Muzzies.

Germany has willingly become the future Eurabia. The native German birth rate is minuscule, so humans must be imported to serve as factory workers for Siemens, BMW, etc.

Germany seems prone to nutty thinking, today as well as in the 1930s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Germany long ago decided to phase out both fossil fuels and nuclear power over concerns that neither is a sustainable source of energy.&#8221; So Neo cites.<br />
But it was NOT Germans who had a plebiscite to cancel nuclear reactors or fossil fuels for electric generation. It was Angela Merkel, raised under East German communism, who made those decisions. She is/was a member of the &#8220;Christian Democratic Union&#8221; aka CDU, which ran post-war Germany (remember Konrad Adenhauer?) for decades, who is not a Christian at all. She encouraged several million young male Muslims from Syria and elsewhere to migrate to Germany, where many remain on the dole,  and native Germans were evicted by their government in order to house Muzzies.</p>
<p>Germany has willingly become the future Eurabia. The native German birth rate is minuscule, so humans must be imported to serve as factory workers for Siemens, BMW, etc.</p>
<p>Germany seems prone to nutty thinking, today as well as in the 1930s.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Turtler:

You didn&#039;t fisk O Bloody Hell&#039;s rant about the BMK reactors being moderated by charcoal.  They were not.

They were moderated by graphite.  Graphite is not charcoal.  Graphite is not &quot;coke.&quot;  Graphite is not graphene.  Graphite is not diamond.  Graphite, charcoal, coke, graphene, and diamond are all forms of carbon.  The Soviets proved that they could disable all safety systems and engineering controls and cause the graphite to burn.  Mother Russia wins again.

N Reactor was the last of 9 graphite-moderated plutonium-production reactors operated by the US.  The first, B Reactor, produced the plutonium for Fat Man.  N Reactor was the most modern, (1963) and the only one to produce electricity,  all the others generated no power, only Pu.  N Reactor had significant inherent safety features and had just undergone significant safety upgrades when the Soviets did Chernobyl, but to no avail, it was shut down after the Soviets crapped up Ukraine with their usual behavior.

The other plutonium production reactors used by the US employ heavy water as a moderator.  They are at the Savanah River site,  I don&#039;t know if any there are still in operation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turtler:</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t fisk O Bloody Hell&#8217;s rant about the BMK reactors being moderated by charcoal.  They were not.</p>
<p>They were moderated by graphite.  Graphite is not charcoal.  Graphite is not &#8220;coke.&#8221;  Graphite is not graphene.  Graphite is not diamond.  Graphite, charcoal, coke, graphene, and diamond are all forms of carbon.  The Soviets proved that they could disable all safety systems and engineering controls and cause the graphite to burn.  Mother Russia wins again.</p>
<p>N Reactor was the last of 9 graphite-moderated plutonium-production reactors operated by the US.  The first, B Reactor, produced the plutonium for Fat Man.  N Reactor was the most modern, (1963) and the only one to produce electricity,  all the others generated no power, only Pu.  N Reactor had significant inherent safety features and had just undergone significant safety upgrades when the Soviets did Chernobyl, but to no avail, it was shut down after the Soviets crapped up Ukraine with their usual behavior.</p>
<p>The other plutonium production reactors used by the US employ heavy water as a moderator.  They are at the Savanah River site,  I don&#8217;t know if any there are still in operation.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 01:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NS:

Sorry to annoy you. It&#039;s a general bugaboo of mine.

No one is obliged to abide by my preferences. Though I do suspect that if one wants others to follow up on a recommendation, a ready link to click would make it easier.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NS:</p>
<p>Sorry to annoy you. It&#8217;s a general bugaboo of mine.</p>
<p>No one is obliged to abide by my preferences. Though I do suspect that if one wants others to follow up on a recommendation, a ready link to click would make it easier.</p>
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