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		By: huxley		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;How did Vonnegut Know? --Richard G.&lt;/i&gt;

Vonnegut was your standard-issue 50s/60s artistic liberal, bewailing society&#039;s ongoing efforts to Stamp Out the Individual.

--&quot;The Prisoner&quot;, &quot;I&#039;m not a number, I&#039;m a free man&quot; (1967)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Cs-VIDKSY

Though you wouldn&#039;t believe it today, once upon a time liberals upheld freedom and creativity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How did Vonnegut Know? &#8211;Richard G.</i></p>
<p>Vonnegut was your standard-issue 50s/60s artistic liberal, bewailing society&#8217;s ongoing efforts to Stamp Out the Individual.</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;The Prisoner&#8221;, &#8220;I&#8217;m not a number, I&#8217;m a free man&#8221; (1967)<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Cs-VIDKSY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7Cs-VIDKSY</a></p>
<p>Though you wouldn&#8217;t believe it today, once upon a time liberals upheld freedom and creativity.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; How did Vonnegut Know?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Could be he read Nietzsche on &quot;The Last Man&quot;: https://youtu.be/O4amBEGwVXs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> How did Vonnegut Know?</p></blockquote>
<p>Could be he read Nietzsche on &#8220;The Last Man&#8221;: <a href="https://youtu.be/O4amBEGwVXs" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/O4amBEGwVXs</a></p>
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		By: Richard G.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2023 01:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dianna Moon Glampers, Handicapper General of The United States, smiles from the pages of Harrison Bergeron. How did Vonnegut Know. Did He read Orwell and Huxley?? 

&quot;THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren&#039;t only equal 
before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter 
than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was 
stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 
211th, 212th, and 213 th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing 
vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.&quot; 

&quot;Some things about living still weren&#039;t quite right, though. April for 
instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime. And it was in 
that clammy month that the H-G men took George and Hazel Bergeron&#039;s fourteen- year-old son, Harrison, away.&quot;

&quot;It was tragic, all right, but George and Hazel couldn&#039;t think about it very 
hard. Hazel had a perfectly average intelligence, which meant she couldn&#039;t 
think about anything except in short bursts. And George, while his 
intelligence was way above normal, had a little mental handicap radio in his 
ear. He was required by law to wear it at all times. It was tuned to a 
government transmitter. Every twenty seconds or so, the transmitter would 
send out some sharp noise to keep people like George from taking unfair 
advantage of their brains.&quot; 

George and Hazel were watching television. There were tears on Hazel&#039;s 
cheeks, but she&#039;d forgotten for the moment what they were about. 

On the television screen were ballerinas. 

A buzzer sounded in George&#039;s head. His thoughts fled in panic, like bandits 
from a burglar alarm. 

&quot;That was a real pretty dance, that dance they just did,&quot; said Hazel. 

&quot;Huh&quot; said George. 

&quot;That dance-it was nice,&quot; said Hazel. 

&quot;Yup, &quot; said George. He tried to think a little about the ballerinas. They 
weren&#039;t really very good-no better than anybody else would have been, anyway. 
They were burdened with sashweights and bags of birdshot, and their faces 
were masked, so that no one, seeing a free and graceful gesture or a pretty 
face, would feel like something the cat drug in. George was toying with the 
vague notion that maybe dancers shouldn&#039;t be handicapped. But he didn&#039;t get 
very far with it before another noise in his ear radio scattered his 
thoughts . 

George winced. So did two out of the eight ballerinas. &quot;

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Read the whole thing. 

Inmates running the asylum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dianna Moon Glampers, Handicapper General of The United States, smiles from the pages of Harrison Bergeron. How did Vonnegut Know. Did He read Orwell and Huxley?? </p>
<p>&#8220;THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren&#8217;t only equal<br />
before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter<br />
than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was<br />
stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the<br />
211th, 212th, and 213 th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing<br />
vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Some things about living still weren&#8217;t quite right, though. April for<br />
instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime. And it was in<br />
that clammy month that the H-G men took George and Hazel Bergeron&#8217;s fourteen- year-old son, Harrison, away.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It was tragic, all right, but George and Hazel couldn&#8217;t think about it very<br />
hard. Hazel had a perfectly average intelligence, which meant she couldn&#8217;t<br />
think about anything except in short bursts. And George, while his<br />
intelligence was way above normal, had a little mental handicap radio in his<br />
ear. He was required by law to wear it at all times. It was tuned to a<br />
government transmitter. Every twenty seconds or so, the transmitter would<br />
send out some sharp noise to keep people like George from taking unfair<br />
advantage of their brains.&#8221; </p>
<p>George and Hazel were watching television. There were tears on Hazel&#8217;s<br />
cheeks, but she&#8217;d forgotten for the moment what they were about. </p>
<p>On the television screen were ballerinas. </p>
<p>A buzzer sounded in George&#8217;s head. His thoughts fled in panic, like bandits<br />
from a burglar alarm. </p>
<p>&#8220;That was a real pretty dance, that dance they just did,&#8221; said Hazel. </p>
<p>&#8220;Huh&#8221; said George. </p>
<p>&#8220;That dance-it was nice,&#8221; said Hazel. </p>
<p>&#8220;Yup, &#8221; said George. He tried to think a little about the ballerinas. They<br />
weren&#8217;t really very good-no better than anybody else would have been, anyway.<br />
They were burdened with sashweights and bags of birdshot, and their faces<br />
were masked, so that no one, seeing a free and graceful gesture or a pretty<br />
face, would feel like something the cat drug in. George was toying with the<br />
vague notion that maybe dancers shouldn&#8217;t be handicapped. But he didn&#8217;t get<br />
very far with it before another noise in his ear radio scattered his<br />
thoughts . </p>
<p>George winced. So did two out of the eight ballerinas. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Read the whole thing. </p>
<p>Inmates running the asylum.</p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@tregonsee314 @Rick T.

I mean, like I said before there can be nobility in giving it one&#039;s all even when fated to not be able to compete with the best, and I don&#039;t have an issue with that. Much like how I enjoyed horse riding the very few times I did it (though I imagine the horse did not, which is one reason I didn&#039;t) in spite of being too towering and heavy to be a good jockey. And let&#039;s face it: Most dancing isn&#039;t world-class, and most niches for it aren&#039;t world class. So there&#039;s a lot of room for earnest, well-meaning performers who can handle appearing somewhat ludicrous in public without losing their (psychological) grace and doing &quot;better than I could do.&quot;

Gymnastics are less so given that, but there are plenty of Country League teams and shows to appeal to to the public and there&#039;s a lot the spirit of competition can do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tregonsee314 @Rick T.</p>
<p>I mean, like I said before there can be nobility in giving it one&#8217;s all even when fated to not be able to compete with the best, and I don&#8217;t have an issue with that. Much like how I enjoyed horse riding the very few times I did it (though I imagine the horse did not, which is one reason I didn&#8217;t) in spite of being too towering and heavy to be a good jockey. And let&#8217;s face it: Most dancing isn&#8217;t world-class, and most niches for it aren&#8217;t world class. So there&#8217;s a lot of room for earnest, well-meaning performers who can handle appearing somewhat ludicrous in public without losing their (psychological) grace and doing &#8220;better than I could do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gymnastics are less so given that, but there are plenty of Country League teams and shows to appeal to to the public and there&#8217;s a lot the spirit of competition can do.</p>
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		By: Rick T.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[tregonsee314 - 

Your wait is over. And you would be surprised. Women Olympic athletes were as well. &quot;How is a man even doing this?!??&quot;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvz3F4HP170]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tregonsee314 &#8211; </p>
<p>Your wait is over. And you would be surprised. Women Olympic athletes were as well. &#8220;How is a man even doing this?!??&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvz3F4HP170" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvz3F4HP170</a></p>
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		By: tregonsee314		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Sophia Rebecca has managed to one of the places where a larger beefier physique is NOT an advantage unlike in swimming, track or basketball or soccer/football. Ms Rebecca has demonstrated this failure admirably. I now await a similar demonstration of this failure in women&#039;s gymnastics particularly the uneven parallel bars. A trans male who has not undergone &quot;bottom&quot; surgery should provide hours of amusement trying to attempt that feat, presuming they don&#039;t break the apparatus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sophia Rebecca has managed to one of the places where a larger beefier physique is NOT an advantage unlike in swimming, track or basketball or soccer/football. Ms Rebecca has demonstrated this failure admirably. I now await a similar demonstration of this failure in women&#8217;s gymnastics particularly the uneven parallel bars. A trans male who has not undergone &#8220;bottom&#8221; surgery should provide hours of amusement trying to attempt that feat, presuming they don&#8217;t break the apparatus</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today victimhood ranks much higher than achievement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today victimhood ranks much higher than achievement.</p>
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		By: Yancey Ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yancey Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds of the classic Muppets&#039; production &quot;Swine Lake&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds of the classic Muppets&#8217; production &#8220;Swine Lake&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turtler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 13:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@JTW

Ah, you again. Have you said apologies to anybody here for alleging they want you dead?

&lt;blockquote&gt; The “joke” is claiming that Rebecca is going to be a professional, rather than wanting to try learning to dance as a hobby.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed, and the kicker I think is that if American Idol and its ilk are any indication, people actually sympathize with an underdog. You don’t need to be particularly good at something if you come at it positively and try hard, at least in many things like amateur dance or the like. And there are a fair number of jobs around for mediocre but spirited dancers willing to embarrass themselves in order to give others a good time and some joy.

It’s a hard truth to swallow but it’s a lot less bitter than many truths one has to, including if one believes that they were born in the wrong kind of body and will face suspicion and hostility from others.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Another “joke” is stirring up more sentiment and hatred against transgender people for political or other ideological gain.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I’ve heard that joke. It’s not funny. Much like accusing others on this blog of wanting to kill you is a monumentally unfunny joke.

Also: there is nothing wrong with stirring up hatred against a given transgender person, so long as it isn’t because they are transgender. I can think of maybe half a dozen hateful idiots who got on the Chris-Chan hate train specifically because they came out as transgender. True equality means being treated for one’s merits as a human being.

The corollary to that means that there are going to be transgender people who have the soul of fecal matter wrapped in human skin and who are attractive targets for hate and ire, much like people from other genders, intersex states, and what have you.

I don’t know the first thing about Rebecca and I sure as hell am not going to hate them like I do Chris Chan, the fashion thief in Biden’s cabinet, the Naked Mole Rat in the Kremlin, Shrillary, oe a host of other people. I say she deserves the benefit of the doubt, which is why I do feel sad given the inherent anatomical issues Neo pointed out (and which aren’t limited to transpeople by any stretch of the imagination), but that doesn’t mean they can’t be a spirited amateur with their own success in spite of failure. And I wish them luck.

&lt;blockquote&gt; I’m strongly opposed to the entire trans ideology idiocy, but BOTH SIDES are guilty of it.
I’m transgender myself and I suffer the consequences of the hostility against transgender people that the ideologues on both sides cause.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Fair, and while we have had our differences (and I am still justifiably bitter at what I believe was your smearing of other blog readers as wanting you dead), you have my sympathies there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JTW</p>
<p>Ah, you again. Have you said apologies to anybody here for alleging they want you dead?</p>
<blockquote><p> The “joke” is claiming that Rebecca is going to be a professional, rather than wanting to try learning to dance as a hobby.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed, and the kicker I think is that if American Idol and its ilk are any indication, people actually sympathize with an underdog. You don’t need to be particularly good at something if you come at it positively and try hard, at least in many things like amateur dance or the like. And there are a fair number of jobs around for mediocre but spirited dancers willing to embarrass themselves in order to give others a good time and some joy.</p>
<p>It’s a hard truth to swallow but it’s a lot less bitter than many truths one has to, including if one believes that they were born in the wrong kind of body and will face suspicion and hostility from others.</p>
<blockquote><p>Another “joke” is stirring up more sentiment and hatred against transgender people for political or other ideological gain.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’ve heard that joke. It’s not funny. Much like accusing others on this blog of wanting to kill you is a monumentally unfunny joke.</p>
<p>Also: there is nothing wrong with stirring up hatred against a given transgender person, so long as it isn’t because they are transgender. I can think of maybe half a dozen hateful idiots who got on the Chris-Chan hate train specifically because they came out as transgender. True equality means being treated for one’s merits as a human being.</p>
<p>The corollary to that means that there are going to be transgender people who have the soul of fecal matter wrapped in human skin and who are attractive targets for hate and ire, much like people from other genders, intersex states, and what have you.</p>
<p>I don’t know the first thing about Rebecca and I sure as hell am not going to hate them like I do Chris Chan, the fashion thief in Biden’s cabinet, the Naked Mole Rat in the Kremlin, Shrillary, oe a host of other people. I say she deserves the benefit of the doubt, which is why I do feel sad given the inherent anatomical issues Neo pointed out (and which aren’t limited to transpeople by any stretch of the imagination), but that doesn’t mean they can’t be a spirited amateur with their own success in spite of failure. And I wish them luck.</p>
<blockquote><p> I’m strongly opposed to the entire trans ideology idiocy, but BOTH SIDES are guilty of it.<br />
I’m transgender myself and I suffer the consequences of the hostility against transgender people that the ideologues on both sides cause.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fair, and while we have had our differences (and I am still justifiably bitter at what I believe was your smearing of other blog readers as wanting you dead), you have my sympathies there.</p>
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		By: JTW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 12:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There isn’t enough electricity — and won’t be enough electricity, ever — to power their future of universal electric car usage.&quot;

Skills are easy to test for. If someone can dance like a ballet star, they have the skills needed.
If someone don&#039;t, they can&#039;t. 
If a trans woman can dance like a ballet star, more power to her. But most of us never will be able to. Doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t dream and try. Not that I&#039;m going to try, not my thing, plus I&#039;ve serious balance problems so I&#039;ll never be able to even get close to developing the skills.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There isn’t enough electricity — and won’t be enough electricity, ever — to power their future of universal electric car usage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Skills are easy to test for. If someone can dance like a ballet star, they have the skills needed.<br />
If someone don&#8217;t, they can&#8217;t.<br />
If a trans woman can dance like a ballet star, more power to her. But most of us never will be able to. Doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t dream and try. Not that I&#8217;m going to try, not my thing, plus I&#8217;ve serious balance problems so I&#8217;ll never be able to even get close to developing the skills.</p>
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