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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/04/01/the-clever-and-highly-coordinated-war-on-disinformation/#comment-2674393</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2023 04:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Neo July 2021 in re Brave New World &#062;&quot;The book is exaggerated (so far, that is) in the amount of control and social engineering exerted.&quot;

I think the Democrats are about to catch up with Huxley&#039;s vision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neo July 2021 in re Brave New World &gt;&#8221;The book is exaggerated (so far, that is) in the amount of control and social engineering exerted.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the Democrats are about to catch up with Huxley&#8217;s vision.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

Please see &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/07/09/nineteen-eighty-four-vs-brave-new-world/&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>Please see <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/07/09/nineteen-eighty-four-vs-brave-new-world/">this post</a>.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Hubert &#062; &quot;What we are living through contains elements of all of these.&quot;

Thanks for the book recommendations.
The only one I&#039;ve read is Levin&#039;s and, that being many years ago, had forgotten it.

It may be that Orwell&#039;s &quot;1984&quot; is referenced the most because it is the ur-prophecy: it contains so many elements of tyranny that are precursors of, or correlating with, the elements in all of the others.

(Although not the oldest, it is the best archetype.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Hubert &gt; &#8220;What we are living through contains elements of all of these.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the book recommendations.<br />
The only one I&#8217;ve read is Levin&#8217;s and, that being many years ago, had forgotten it.</p>
<p>It may be that Orwell&#8217;s &#8220;1984&#8221; is referenced the most because it is the ur-prophecy: it contains so many elements of tyranny that are precursors of, or correlating with, the elements in all of the others.</p>
<p>(Although not the oldest, it is the best archetype.)</p>
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		By: Hubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 13:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan: &quot;Suggestions?&quot;

Here are a few:

1. Vladimir Nabokov, &quot;Bend Sinister&quot; (1947). A police state in which the official ideology is &quot;Ekwilism&quot; (Equity). Anticipated Vonnegut&#039;s &quot;Harrison Bergeron&quot; by almost 15 years.
2. Anthony Burgess, &quot;The Wanting Seed&quot; (1962). From the Wikipedia summary: &quot;There is also active discrimination against heterosexuals, homosexuality being encouraged as a measure against overpopulation. Self-sterilization is also encouraged.&quot; Add &quot;climate change&quot; to &quot;overpopulation&quot; with a nod to Canada&#039;s medical-assistance-in-dying (MAID) law and this sounds pretty familiar.
3. Ira Levin, &quot;This Perfect Day&quot; (1970).
4. And David Foster&#039;s favorite, &quot;Year of Consent&quot; (1954) by Kendell Foster Crossen.

What we are living through contains elements of all of these.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan: &#8220;Suggestions?&#8221;</p>
<p>Here are a few:</p>
<p>1. Vladimir Nabokov, &#8220;Bend Sinister&#8221; (1947). A police state in which the official ideology is &#8220;Ekwilism&#8221; (Equity). Anticipated Vonnegut&#8217;s &#8220;Harrison Bergeron&#8221; by almost 15 years.<br />
2. Anthony Burgess, &#8220;The Wanting Seed&#8221; (1962). From the Wikipedia summary: &#8220;There is also active discrimination against heterosexuals, homosexuality being encouraged as a measure against overpopulation. Self-sterilization is also encouraged.&#8221; Add &#8220;climate change&#8221; to &#8220;overpopulation&#8221; with a nod to Canada&#8217;s medical-assistance-in-dying (MAID) law and this sounds pretty familiar.<br />
3. Ira Levin, &#8220;This Perfect Day&#8221; (1970).<br />
4. And David Foster&#8217;s favorite, &#8220;Year of Consent&#8221; (1954) by Kendell Foster Crossen.</p>
<p>What we are living through contains elements of all of these.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 13:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OBH:

It was Robert Reich after all; what a crazy little man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBH:</p>
<p>It was Robert Reich after all; what a crazy little man.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 12:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;preserving free speech online was “Musk’s dream. And Trump’s. And Putin’s. &lt;b&gt;And the dream of every dictator, strongman, demagogue, and modern-day robber baron on Earth.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

This comment is insane. How does any rational person hear that, and nod, &quot;Yeah, that&#039;s correct!&quot;??

SMH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>preserving free speech online was “Musk’s dream. And Trump’s. And Putin’s. <b>And the dream of every dictator, strongman, demagogue, and modern-day robber baron on Earth.</b></i></p>
<p>This comment is insane. How does any rational person hear that, and nod, &#8220;Yeah, that&#8217;s correct!&#8221;??</p>
<p>SMH.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 01:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well stated, stan — alarming JJ…plus ca change%.

After consideration, albeit without my “saved files” reviewed, my FOUR PART OUTLINE, part TWP is now filled in with fairly recentpolitical documentaries (on my old list, but neglected as too painful to watch before now), of late 2020 and late last year:

SECOND, how Russiagate became Spy-gate and Obamagate — How the Deep State built our digital fascism. “The Plot Against The President” The deep state ad ICs coup against our elected President Trump, Oct20 (based on Lee Smith’s book):
https://ugetube.com/watch/the-plot-against-the-president-full-documentary-2020-1080p_qubbsUwDnmaBSk6.html

The chilling Trailer https://rumble.com/vansaf-the-plot-against-the-president-documentary.html

INTRODUCTION by neo — Our Age of (Politically Rendered) Disinformation:
https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/04/01/the-clever-and-highly-coordinated-war-on-disinformation/#comments

ORIGINAL 45 page article at the Tabletmag.com:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation

“The Shadow State” (November 2022) and the rapid rise Eco-globalist tyranny:
https://www.theshadowstate.com

“From our food, fuel, money, even freedom of speech … who is really in control? Kevin Stocklin presents his investigation in this eye-opening documentary about ESG (Environmental Social and Governance), a new global alliance affecting everyone’s way of life. As a business reporter who has written extensively on ESG issues, he uncomplicates the complicated in this Epoch Original. “The Shadow State” reveals the surprising truth behind the driving force of this global alliance, the multi-trillion dollar ESG industry which unites governments and corporations.”
__________

Finally Part FOUR is now amended with a short note about the mechanism for corrupt political-corporate and Democrat machine driven urban politics:

ALL OF THIS descends from the Constitutional evisceration of “Regular Order,” meaning the House originating all federal spending bills, and doing so on an annual basis. The mutilation has gone on so long that it is practically institutionalised.

This “Process” got tossed out of Congress with The Great Recession in 2009. Ever since then, Fed spending occurs in Trillion Dollar and then multi-trillion dollar Omnibus spending Bills. Which has resulted in many of the largest company’s moving to DC, in order to get their Big Bite into the spending pie that results from irregular and habitual Federal spending.

I’m testing this revised four-parter on my old university roommate, his wife and he currently Professors of statistics.

We are old, even pre-uni friends. But we’ve not caught up since the last three pandemic years began.

Perhaps I’ll have a reaction to report in the week or two ahead. We used to be politically conversant, and remained so, until his wife went Global Warming nuts, thereby killing open discourse. Now the gapping, bleeding wounds in the body politic are too large not to Go There.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated, stan — alarming JJ…plus ca change%.</p>
<p>After consideration, albeit without my “saved files” reviewed, my FOUR PART OUTLINE, part TWP is now filled in with fairly recentpolitical documentaries (on my old list, but neglected as too painful to watch before now), of late 2020 and late last year:</p>
<p>SECOND, how Russiagate became Spy-gate and Obamagate — How the Deep State built our digital fascism. “The Plot Against The President” The deep state ad ICs coup against our elected President Trump, Oct20 (based on Lee Smith’s book):<br />
<a href="https://ugetube.com/watch/the-plot-against-the-president-full-documentary-2020-1080p_qubbsUwDnmaBSk6.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://ugetube.com/watch/the-plot-against-the-president-full-documentary-2020-1080p_qubbsUwDnmaBSk6.html</a></p>
<p>The chilling Trailer <a href="https://rumble.com/vansaf-the-plot-against-the-president-documentary.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://rumble.com/vansaf-the-plot-against-the-president-documentary.html</a></p>
<p>INTRODUCTION by neo — Our Age of (Politically Rendered) Disinformation:<br />
<a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/04/01/the-clever-and-highly-coordinated-war-on-disinformation/#comments" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/04/01/the-clever-and-highly-coordinated-war-on-disinformation/#comments</a></p>
<p>ORIGINAL 45 page article at the Tabletmag.com:<br />
<a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation</a></p>
<p>“The Shadow State” (November 2022) and the rapid rise Eco-globalist tyranny:<br />
<a href="https://www.theshadowstate.com" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.theshadowstate.com</a></p>
<p>“From our food, fuel, money, even freedom of speech … who is really in control? Kevin Stocklin presents his investigation in this eye-opening documentary about ESG (Environmental Social and Governance), a new global alliance affecting everyone’s way of life. As a business reporter who has written extensively on ESG issues, he uncomplicates the complicated in this Epoch Original. “The Shadow State” reveals the surprising truth behind the driving force of this global alliance, the multi-trillion dollar ESG industry which unites governments and corporations.”<br />
__________</p>
<p>Finally Part FOUR is now amended with a short note about the mechanism for corrupt political-corporate and Democrat machine driven urban politics:</p>
<p>ALL OF THIS descends from the Constitutional evisceration of “Regular Order,” meaning the House originating all federal spending bills, and doing so on an annual basis. The mutilation has gone on so long that it is practically institutionalised.</p>
<p>This “Process” got tossed out of Congress with The Great Recession in 2009. Ever since then, Fed spending occurs in Trillion Dollar and then multi-trillion dollar Omnibus spending Bills. Which has resulted in many of the largest company’s moving to DC, in order to get their Big Bite into the spending pie that results from irregular and habitual Federal spending.</p>
<p>I’m testing this revised four-parter on my old university roommate, his wife and he currently Professors of statistics.</p>
<p>We are old, even pre-uni friends. But we’ve not caught up since the last three pandemic years began.</p>
<p>Perhaps I’ll have a reaction to report in the week or two ahead. We used to be politically conversant, and remained so, until his wife went Global Warming nuts, thereby killing open discourse. Now the gapping, bleeding wounds in the body politic are too large not to Go There.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From a commenter (gearbox123) at Instapundit:
&quot;Still only about 2/3 of the way through the article, but seriously, it explains EVERYTHING that has happened in the last 10 years or so. The &quot;elites&quot; have simply decided that THEY will make the decisions from now on, and the proles will go along with them, by force if necessary.

This is why they don&#039;t care about illegal immigration, street crime, the food chain, or anything else. We are no longer &quot;America.&quot; They are &quot;America.&quot; We are disposable units to them, meaningless things to be replaced as necessary.&quot;

This is a description of modern feudalism. The nobles will run things and the serfs will like it....or else.

Pertaining to this is Tucker Carlson&#039;s interview on Fox Nation with a tech expert who has quantified the way Google is affecting public opinions and elections.
https://nation.foxnews.com/watch/057ddd595d82c26aa805d45f839e7cec/  

Google and other big tech companies now have their fingers on the pulses of their users.  They monetize this data but have also developed algo rhythms to control public opinion. Big brother is here. The only escape is to quit using Google, Facebook, Twitter, Tik Tok, etc. and find less monopolistic companies like DuckDuckGo, Rumble, Truth Social, etc. 

The expert that Tucker interviewed about Google claimed that Google can move opinions on elections far more than we would believe. 

I have instinctively avoided Google because they have been so intrusive and pushy. Also, I&#039;ve never used any form of social media - e-mail is my social media.  :-)

I&#039;m wondering how long it will be before they start going after blogs and substack?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a commenter (gearbox123) at Instapundit:<br />
&#8220;Still only about 2/3 of the way through the article, but seriously, it explains EVERYTHING that has happened in the last 10 years or so. The &#8220;elites&#8221; have simply decided that THEY will make the decisions from now on, and the proles will go along with them, by force if necessary.</p>
<p>This is why they don&#8217;t care about illegal immigration, street crime, the food chain, or anything else. We are no longer &#8220;America.&#8221; They are &#8220;America.&#8221; We are disposable units to them, meaningless things to be replaced as necessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a description of modern feudalism. The nobles will run things and the serfs will like it&#8230;.or else.</p>
<p>Pertaining to this is Tucker Carlson&#8217;s interview on Fox Nation with a tech expert who has quantified the way Google is affecting public opinions and elections.<br />
<a href="https://nation.foxnews.com/watch/057ddd595d82c26aa805d45f839e7cec/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nation.foxnews.com/watch/057ddd595d82c26aa805d45f839e7cec/</a>  </p>
<p>Google and other big tech companies now have their fingers on the pulses of their users.  They monetize this data but have also developed algo rhythms to control public opinion. Big brother is here. The only escape is to quit using Google, Facebook, Twitter, Tik Tok, etc. and find less monopolistic companies like DuckDuckGo, Rumble, Truth Social, etc. </p>
<p>The expert that Tucker interviewed about Google claimed that Google can move opinions on elections far more than we would believe. </p>
<p>I have instinctively avoided Google because they have been so intrusive and pushy. Also, I&#8217;ve never used any form of social media &#8211; e-mail is my social media.  🙂</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering how long it will be before they start going after blogs and substack?</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“own provi­dential destiny and that of people like them to rule, regardless of their failures.” 

They believe they are gods and they have the right to run the lives of other people.

This is as good a definition of evil as any.

They have knowingly rejected the wisdom of the founding fathers. They have re-defined morality according to Lenin&#039;s formulation. They are the revolution. And &quot;moral&quot; is that which furthers their power.

Lies, slanders, abusing power, cancel culture, riots, political violence, political prisoners -- these are all morally and ethically proper and desirable.

Comey, while teaching government ethics, celebrates the indictment of Trump. They aren&#039;t even pretending anymore to observe the basics of legal or moral government. 

Repeat -- they aren&#039;t even pretending to be honest or fair. They don&#039;t care about appearances. They are going to impose their tyranny with force and legal abuses. Without any possibility of losing at the ballot box, they don&#039;t have to pretend anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“own provi­dential destiny and that of people like them to rule, regardless of their failures.” </p>
<p>They believe they are gods and they have the right to run the lives of other people.</p>
<p>This is as good a definition of evil as any.</p>
<p>They have knowingly rejected the wisdom of the founding fathers. They have re-defined morality according to Lenin&#8217;s formulation. They are the revolution. And &#8220;moral&#8221; is that which furthers their power.</p>
<p>Lies, slanders, abusing power, cancel culture, riots, political violence, political prisoners &#8212; these are all morally and ethically proper and desirable.</p>
<p>Comey, while teaching government ethics, celebrates the indictment of Trump. They aren&#8217;t even pretending anymore to observe the basics of legal or moral government. </p>
<p>Repeat &#8212; they aren&#8217;t even pretending to be honest or fair. They don&#8217;t care about appearances. They are going to impose their tyranny with force and legal abuses. Without any possibility of losing at the ballot box, they don&#8217;t have to pretend anymore.</p>
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		By: Insufficiently Sensitive		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 19:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;they lost a mind-blowing $4.1 trillion in Fiscal Year 2022, which was $1 trillion worse than the year before.&lt;/i&gt;

Those who&#039;ve settled into the ruling chairs feel it necessary to buy sufficient votes for re-election at all costs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>they lost a mind-blowing $4.1 trillion in Fiscal Year 2022, which was $1 trillion worse than the year before.</i></p>
<p>Those who&#8217;ve settled into the ruling chairs feel it necessary to buy sufficient votes for re-election at all costs.</p>
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