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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2023 04:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;no nation on earth can be perfect or anywhere near perfect.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, Neo, but that&#039;s the entire point of the &lt;b&gt;Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis&lt;/b&gt;...

&lt;blockquote&gt;The &quot;Cloward-Piven Strategy&quot; seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These impossible demands are, by their nature, often demands that things be perfect, or they might as well not &quot;be&quot;... Equating &quot;not perfection&quot; with whatever happens to be the goal of the Left at the moment.

For all their demands for, and claims of, &quot;nuance&quot; and &quot;non-binary&quot;, it&#039;s really amazing how often the approach of the Left is &lt;b&gt;absolutely binary&lt;/b&gt;.

I&#039;d make a thoroughly detailed argument that this has been going on, in one form or another, since the 1920s, but there&#039;s no question that Teh One was raised and sauteed in it...

&lt;b&gt;Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis&lt;/b&gt;
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>no nation on earth can be perfect or anywhere near perfect.</i></p>
<p>Yes, Neo, but that&#8217;s the entire point of the <b>Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis</b>&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>The &#8220;Cloward-Piven Strategy&#8221; seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.</p></blockquote>
<p>These impossible demands are, by their nature, often demands that things be perfect, or they might as well not &#8220;be&#8221;&#8230; Equating &#8220;not perfection&#8221; with whatever happens to be the goal of the Left at the moment.</p>
<p>For all their demands for, and claims of, &#8220;nuance&#8221; and &#8220;non-binary&#8221;, it&#8217;s really amazing how often the approach of the Left is <b>absolutely binary</b>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d make a thoroughly detailed argument that this has been going on, in one form or another, since the 1920s, but there&#8217;s no question that Teh One was raised and sauteed in it&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis</b><br />
<a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/30/whatever-happened-to-patriotism/#comment-2673630</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2023 01:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its pretty simple, those on the left saw our Religion, our Patriotism, and many other fundamental aspects of our American civilization/mindset as obstacles to their gaining power so, they had to either be perverted, parasitized, or destroyed--see contemporary education).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its pretty simple, those on the left saw our Religion, our Patriotism, and many other fundamental aspects of our American civilization/mindset as obstacles to their gaining power so, they had to either be perverted, parasitized, or destroyed&#8211;see contemporary education).</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/30/whatever-happened-to-patriotism/#comment-2673629</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2023 01:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having worked overseas on extended hitches for over 25 years, and in some real sh*thole countries, I can say that I never once did not say my prayers of gratitude upon returning to the US after the hitch was done.  Never once.

If we want to see a resurgence of patriotism, the easiest way is compulsory foreign service for a couple of years for the young people.  You could make it voluntary at first, and offer incentives to generate interest and momentum.  But the best way to make people understand what a winning lottery ticket they&#039;ve been gifted at birth is to give them something to compare it to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked overseas on extended hitches for over 25 years, and in some real sh*thole countries, I can say that I never once did not say my prayers of gratitude upon returning to the US after the hitch was done.  Never once.</p>
<p>If we want to see a resurgence of patriotism, the easiest way is compulsory foreign service for a couple of years for the young people.  You could make it voluntary at first, and offer incentives to generate interest and momentum.  But the best way to make people understand what a winning lottery ticket they&#8217;ve been gifted at birth is to give them something to compare it to.</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find the English/Spanish thing to be very, very annoying. This is an English speaking nation. If I were to move to Germany, learning German would be pretty high on my List of Things To Do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the English/Spanish thing to be very, very annoying. This is an English speaking nation. If I were to move to Germany, learning German would be pretty high on my List of Things To Do.</p>
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		By: ghostsniper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patriotism toward what?
This ain&#039;t the country I was born in.

Life began for me in Gettysburg not long after my dad and his brothers served in World War II.
10 years after.
For context, it&#039;s been more than 20 years since 9-11 and I bet it&#039;s still fresh in your mind.

I came from a long line of soldiers and knew from the beginning that I would be one too.
I served my time and then set forth on building my own little slice of the American Dream.
It was a lifelong journey and no goal was ever established other than just being a decent person.

During the past 50 years I have observed the people in charge encourage the &quot;huddled masses&quot; of the world to come here, preferably illegally, and soak up the efforts of the citizens toil. Never encouraging them, let alone require of them, to assimilate into the national fabric. The &quot;melting pot&quot; as it were.

A half century later we now live in a country with 200 different &quot;cultures&quot; celebrated at the cost of unit cohesion - patriotism.

Us natives still feel our patriotism but also see it being squeezed out of society at large in so many ways.

I suspect in the near future patriotism will be banished and punished as a hate crime.

Just yesterday at the ATM machine my bank required me right up front to choose whether to continue the transaction in english or spanish, and this is in a very small rural community where little to no spanish people live.

Where is the patriotism in that last sentence?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriotism toward what?<br />
This ain&#8217;t the country I was born in.</p>
<p>Life began for me in Gettysburg not long after my dad and his brothers served in World War II.<br />
10 years after.<br />
For context, it&#8217;s been more than 20 years since 9-11 and I bet it&#8217;s still fresh in your mind.</p>
<p>I came from a long line of soldiers and knew from the beginning that I would be one too.<br />
I served my time and then set forth on building my own little slice of the American Dream.<br />
It was a lifelong journey and no goal was ever established other than just being a decent person.</p>
<p>During the past 50 years I have observed the people in charge encourage the &#8220;huddled masses&#8221; of the world to come here, preferably illegally, and soak up the efforts of the citizens toil. Never encouraging them, let alone require of them, to assimilate into the national fabric. The &#8220;melting pot&#8221; as it were.</p>
<p>A half century later we now live in a country with 200 different &#8220;cultures&#8221; celebrated at the cost of unit cohesion &#8211; patriotism.</p>
<p>Us natives still feel our patriotism but also see it being squeezed out of society at large in so many ways.</p>
<p>I suspect in the near future patriotism will be banished and punished as a hate crime.</p>
<p>Just yesterday at the ATM machine my bank required me right up front to choose whether to continue the transaction in english or spanish, and this is in a very small rural community where little to no spanish people live.</p>
<p>Where is the patriotism in that last sentence?</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think an important component to the idea of nationalism is national sovereignty. It&#039;s what I and many, if not most people mean. We&#039;re not looking to other countries to decide how and why our country should be governed. 

Add to that the idea of America First-- we take care of our own citizens and then, with our bounty take care of others around the world. It&#039;s not a selfish sentiment though. We may sacrifice our own well-being to come to the aid of our friends and allies, as they would do for us.

Is some of this a reaction to the globalist sentiment by some or many of our betters? No doubt.

My wife had been an exchange student during the late sixties in Norway, and after we married we returned to visit her host families. It was remarkable the difference in attitudes between the Norwegians who remembered WWII and the younger, college age folks. The college age were critical and almost hostile to us because of Vietnam. The older folks were still grateful for what America had done during the war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an important component to the idea of nationalism is national sovereignty. It&#8217;s what I and many, if not most people mean. We&#8217;re not looking to other countries to decide how and why our country should be governed. </p>
<p>Add to that the idea of America First&#8211; we take care of our own citizens and then, with our bounty take care of others around the world. It&#8217;s not a selfish sentiment though. We may sacrifice our own well-being to come to the aid of our friends and allies, as they would do for us.</p>
<p>Is some of this a reaction to the globalist sentiment by some or many of our betters? No doubt.</p>
<p>My wife had been an exchange student during the late sixties in Norway, and after we married we returned to visit her host families. It was remarkable the difference in attitudes between the Norwegians who remembered WWII and the younger, college age folks. The college age were critical and almost hostile to us because of Vietnam. The older folks were still grateful for what America had done during the war.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The push for internationalism and the opposition to nationalism has been the foundation of communism from the beginning. Patriotism is bad because it tends to work against communist victory.

The theme song of communism is The Internationale. Officially adopted in 1887.

All the usual suspects [news media, universities, K-12 education, Hollywood, unions, Democrats, publishing, et al} deride patriotism in the USA because all the usual suspects are, at core, commies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The push for internationalism and the opposition to nationalism has been the foundation of communism from the beginning. Patriotism is bad because it tends to work against communist victory.</p>
<p>The theme song of communism is The Internationale. Officially adopted in 1887.</p>
<p>All the usual suspects [news media, universities, K-12 education, Hollywood, unions, Democrats, publishing, et al} deride patriotism in the USA because all the usual suspects are, at core, commies.</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 20:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RTF says, &quot;Invariably a despot comes along and tries to enslave the people, and conscript them to his will.&quot;

Then you should be pleased that the QAnon shaman was released from prison today:

https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-released-from-prison-14-months-early/

Of course the obvious question is why Chansley was locked up at all-- too many despots and wannabe despots in our own federal government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RTF says, &#8220;Invariably a despot comes along and tries to enslave the people, and conscript them to his will.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you should be pleased that the QAnon shaman was released from prison today:</p>
<p><a href="https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-released-from-prison-14-months-early/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-released-from-prison-14-months-early/</a></p>
<p>Of course the obvious question is why Chansley was locked up at all&#8211; too many despots and wannabe despots in our own federal government.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The landmass the 50 United States, and Guam and Puerto Rico, occupy is amazing. Beautiful, stark, lush, frozen, tropical, green, brown, blue... Full of natural resources, precious stones, timber, wildlife... It is understandable that many citizens feel a sense of attachment to this land and an appreciation for what it is on a physical level.

All U.S. citizens should recognize that they have inherited an extremely rare gift. Throughout most all of human history and among most all humans, societies are/were organized under might makes right. Someone or some body assumes authority as &quot;the state&quot; and determines how everyone else will live. There are the rulers and the ruled.

After winning the war of independence from the British monarchy the first Americans reasoned to the correct conclusion that all men and women are free. Rights are innate and do not extend from rulers. Society should be organized around the consent of those free individuals.

This is undeniably and irrefutably correct. It has been correct for all of human history. Invariably a despot comes along and tries to enslave the people, and conscript them to his will.

Americans have every right to feel a sense of pride that they live in a nation that respects individual sovereignty. And Americans should always cooperate to eliminate any force that tries to subjugate individuals. Even when that force marches under the symbol of the star spangled banner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The landmass the 50 United States, and Guam and Puerto Rico, occupy is amazing. Beautiful, stark, lush, frozen, tropical, green, brown, blue&#8230; Full of natural resources, precious stones, timber, wildlife&#8230; It is understandable that many citizens feel a sense of attachment to this land and an appreciation for what it is on a physical level.</p>
<p>All U.S. citizens should recognize that they have inherited an extremely rare gift. Throughout most all of human history and among most all humans, societies are/were organized under might makes right. Someone or some body assumes authority as &#8220;the state&#8221; and determines how everyone else will live. There are the rulers and the ruled.</p>
<p>After winning the war of independence from the British monarchy the first Americans reasoned to the correct conclusion that all men and women are free. Rights are innate and do not extend from rulers. Society should be organized around the consent of those free individuals.</p>
<p>This is undeniably and irrefutably correct. It has been correct for all of human history. Invariably a despot comes along and tries to enslave the people, and conscript them to his will.</p>
<p>Americans have every right to feel a sense of pride that they live in a nation that respects individual sovereignty. And Americans should always cooperate to eliminate any force that tries to subjugate individuals. Even when that force marches under the symbol of the star spangled banner.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patriotism. I learned what it was during WWII. It was meatless meals, it was collecting paper, cardboard, 
tin foil, scrap metal, and buying savings stamps that became War Boinds when enough stamps were saved. 

It meant seeing families with Gold Stars hanging in their windows and knowing there was grief in that home. It meant treating those families with special kindness.

It was seeing young Air Corps pilots and crew members who knew they were soon going to be attacking Japan in their B-29 aircraft and seeing the light of determination in their eyes.

It was seeing men from my hometown return with serious wounds and disabilities. And seeing them cope with their new realities.

It was knowing that if the war lasted long enough, I would be called up. And wanting to serve because I saw how the men of my hometown stepped up to go to war when it began. It was knowing that this country, just emerging from the Great Depression, was worth fighting for.

I&#039;ve never lost those feelings. I understood when the Cold Ware began that the Communist powers wanted to gain as much power over the world&#039;s natural resources as they could - so they could control our economy and bring us to heel.  I saw the doctrines of stopping Communist expansion as a necessary evil and was willing to serve when my time came.

We won the Cold War but are losing against the expansion of Communism. They have infiltrated us and are working to take us down from within.  Patriotism today means standing against those who want to destroy our Constitution - both the leftists and their useful idiots.

There is no place to go. The other nations of the Anglosphere are now mostly being governed by authoritarians. Patriotism means standing up here and now for the Constitution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriotism. I learned what it was during WWII. It was meatless meals, it was collecting paper, cardboard,<br />
tin foil, scrap metal, and buying savings stamps that became War Boinds when enough stamps were saved. </p>
<p>It meant seeing families with Gold Stars hanging in their windows and knowing there was grief in that home. It meant treating those families with special kindness.</p>
<p>It was seeing young Air Corps pilots and crew members who knew they were soon going to be attacking Japan in their B-29 aircraft and seeing the light of determination in their eyes.</p>
<p>It was seeing men from my hometown return with serious wounds and disabilities. And seeing them cope with their new realities.</p>
<p>It was knowing that if the war lasted long enough, I would be called up. And wanting to serve because I saw how the men of my hometown stepped up to go to war when it began. It was knowing that this country, just emerging from the Great Depression, was worth fighting for.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never lost those feelings. I understood when the Cold Ware began that the Communist powers wanted to gain as much power over the world&#8217;s natural resources as they could &#8211; so they could control our economy and bring us to heel.  I saw the doctrines of stopping Communist expansion as a necessary evil and was willing to serve when my time came.</p>
<p>We won the Cold War but are losing against the expansion of Communism. They have infiltrated us and are working to take us down from within.  Patriotism today means standing against those who want to destroy our Constitution &#8211; both the leftists and their useful idiots.</p>
<p>There is no place to go. The other nations of the Anglosphere are now mostly being governed by authoritarians. Patriotism means standing up here and now for the Constitution.</p>
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