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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[well but who would trust to write the guidelines, the same people who have allowed category error into chat gbt]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well but who would trust to write the guidelines, the same people who have allowed category error into chat gbt</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673544</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the subject of out of control AI, I note the petition just now circulating, and signed by the likes of Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak and other tech leaders, to halt AI research for 6 months while a strict regime regulating such research is put into place.

This, I&#039;m afraid, is just too little and too late, just spitting into the wind of the mad scramble to develop ever more powerful AIs.*

*  See  https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-chatgpt-risks-petition-elon-musk-steve-wozniak-534f0298d6304687ed080a5119a69962]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of out of control AI, I note the petition just now circulating, and signed by the likes of Elon Musk, Steve Wozniak and other tech leaders, to halt AI research for 6 months while a strict regime regulating such research is put into place.</p>
<p>This, I&#8217;m afraid, is just too little and too late, just spitting into the wind of the mad scramble to develop ever more powerful AIs.*</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-chatgpt-risks-petition-elon-musk-steve-wozniak-534f0298d6304687ed080a5119a69962" rel="nofollow ugc">https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-chatgpt-risks-petition-elon-musk-steve-wozniak-534f0298d6304687ed080a5119a69962</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.--As technology improves, and the more scientists are able to look, the more impact craters are discovered here on Earth, and current thinking is that these craters are actually ten times as great in diameter and effects than previous estimates had them to be.*

*  See  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11887421/NASA-warns-mass-extinction-causing-asteroid-likely-hit-planet-previously-thought.html

See also  https://www.livescience.com/largest-asteroids-to-hit-earth]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8211;As technology improves, and the more scientists are able to look, the more impact craters are discovered here on Earth, and current thinking is that these craters are actually ten times as great in diameter and effects than previous estimates had them to be.*</p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11887421/NASA-warns-mass-extinction-causing-asteroid-likely-hit-planet-previously-thought.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11887421/NASA-warns-mass-extinction-causing-asteroid-likely-hit-planet-previously-thought.html</a></p>
<p>See also  <a href="https://www.livescience.com/largest-asteroids-to-hit-earth" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.livescience.com/largest-asteroids-to-hit-earth</a></p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673521</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To quote Robert A. Heinlein,

“The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race to keep all its eggs in.”

There is a reason that thinkers--men like Heinlein, Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking, and Eric Weinstein--are very keen on getting human beings off of Earth and out into the solar system, there to colonize those planets and moons which can be colonized, and/or to create and inhabit various orbiting habitats.

That is because, confined as we are currently are to Earth, a whole array of disastrous things, “mass extinction events” could happen to us which could potentially wipe out the human race—global wars, out of control AI, various natural or man-made diseases (see COVID), impacts from asteroids (see the Chicxulub impact crater), and/or massive volcanic activity poisoning the air, (as I understand  it, in the far past the air on Earth used to be deadly due to massive eruptions of poisonous fumes from a huge number of the then active volcanoes) to name but a  few.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Robert A. Heinlein,</p>
<p>“The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race to keep all its eggs in.”</p>
<p>There is a reason that thinkers&#8211;men like Heinlein, Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking, and Eric Weinstein&#8211;are very keen on getting human beings off of Earth and out into the solar system, there to colonize those planets and moons which can be colonized, and/or to create and inhabit various orbiting habitats.</p>
<p>That is because, confined as we are currently are to Earth, a whole array of disastrous things, “mass extinction events” could happen to us which could potentially wipe out the human race—global wars, out of control AI, various natural or man-made diseases (see COVID), impacts from asteroids (see the Chicxulub impact crater), and/or massive volcanic activity poisoning the air, (as I understand  it, in the far past the air on Earth used to be deadly due to massive eruptions of poisonous fumes from a huge number of the then active volcanoes) to name but a  few.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[paolini, of the eragon series crafted a modern space opera using hard science, it runs about war and piece size length

to sleep in a sea of stars,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paolini, of the eragon series crafted a modern space opera using hard science, it runs about war and piece size length</p>
<p>to sleep in a sea of stars,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673490</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 14:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[possibly, maybe there is alcubierre drive or some kind of contrivance, Im assuming a larger distance because the expansion of matter would be ovoid not conical]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>possibly, maybe there is alcubierre drive or some kind of contrivance, Im assuming a larger distance because the expansion of matter would be ovoid not conical</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/29/theres-water-in-the-moons-glass-beads/#comment-2673485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given this unimaginable number of stars with planets, and given the estimated age of 13+ billion years for the Universe, there has been and is basically unlimited space and time for all sorts of evolutionary experiments to have taken place--even for intelligent beings and civilizations to have arisen, had their time in the sun, and then to have declined and disappeared, and some of them may have been space going--all this in a cycle that has likely happened over and over again. 

Thus, at our present moment, it is possible that there are active, space going civilizations somewhere &quot;out there,&quot; even possibly in our immediate area.  

Is it unreasonable, therefore, to think that such entities--being curious, restless, or whatever--might have visited or might now be visiting our solar system, either in the form of automated probes--Von Neumann machines--or even in person?

But, the speed of light!

In the grand scheme of the development and progress of the human race, our technological civilization has been a very recent development.  

I think it very presumptuous of us to to think that at our present state of scientific knowledge we have a complete understanding of the structure, laws, and all the forces in the Universe, how they operate, or of what is actually possible. 

So I view the speed of light limitation as more of a sign of our limited present knowledge than a hard and fast &quot;rule.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given this unimaginable number of stars with planets, and given the estimated age of 13+ billion years for the Universe, there has been and is basically unlimited space and time for all sorts of evolutionary experiments to have taken place&#8211;even for intelligent beings and civilizations to have arisen, had their time in the sun, and then to have declined and disappeared, and some of them may have been space going&#8211;all this in a cycle that has likely happened over and over again. </p>
<p>Thus, at our present moment, it is possible that there are active, space going civilizations somewhere &#8220;out there,&#8221; even possibly in our immediate area.  </p>
<p>Is it unreasonable, therefore, to think that such entities&#8211;being curious, restless, or whatever&#8211;might have visited or might now be visiting our solar system, either in the form of automated probes&#8211;Von Neumann machines&#8211;or even in person?</p>
<p>But, the speed of light!</p>
<p>In the grand scheme of the development and progress of the human race, our technological civilization has been a very recent development.  </p>
<p>I think it very presumptuous of us to to think that at our present state of scientific knowledge we have a complete understanding of the structure, laws, and all the forces in the Universe, how they operate, or of what is actually possible. </p>
<p>So I view the speed of light limitation as more of a sign of our limited present knowledge than a hard and fast &#8220;rule.&#8221;</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 13:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the Universe is so vast, beyond our imaginings, probably 30 trillion light years across, i&#039;m just guessing,

large scale city or significantly larger will be hard because of all the constraints, for the foreseable future,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Universe is so vast, beyond our imaginings, probably 30 trillion light years across, i&#8217;m just guessing,</p>
<p>large scale city or significantly larger will be hard because of all the constraints, for the foreseable future,</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 13:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE:  UFOs--

I guess my concept of the size of the Universe was set way back in college when far less was known about its size.

According to the clip linked to below, current estimates are that there are two trillion galaxies in the portion of the Universe that we can currently see (and that&#039;s just a very small part of the entire Universe, which may well be infinite) and our Milky Way galaxy--some are larger, some are smaller--is 100,000 light years across and is estimated to contain as many as 400 billion stars.*

(Current estimates are that at least one out of every six of those stars has planets.)

I expect that in the coming years those estimates will be revised very substantially upwards.

Try to wrap your head around this immensity and, as well, then maintain the view that we are likely the only intelligent entities in our Galaxy, or even in the Universe.



*  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VYVf34MUpAc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  UFOs&#8211;</p>
<p>I guess my concept of the size of the Universe was set way back in college when far less was known about its size.</p>
<p>According to the clip linked to below, current estimates are that there are two trillion galaxies in the portion of the Universe that we can currently see (and that&#8217;s just a very small part of the entire Universe, which may well be infinite) and our Milky Way galaxy&#8211;some are larger, some are smaller&#8211;is 100,000 light years across and is estimated to contain as many as 400 billion stars.*</p>
<p>(Current estimates are that at least one out of every six of those stars has planets.)</p>
<p>I expect that in the coming years those estimates will be revised very substantially upwards.</p>
<p>Try to wrap your head around this immensity and, as well, then maintain the view that we are likely the only intelligent entities in our Galaxy, or even in the Universe.</p>
<p>*  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VYVf34MUpAc" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VYVf34MUpAc</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:

I read &lt;i&gt;Demian&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Steppenwolf&lt;/i&gt; in the 60s and liked them very much. I think that the first part of &lt;i&gt;Demian&lt;/i&gt;, in which the child protagonist is a victim of extortion by another child, is especially masterful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:</p>
<p>I read <i>Demian</i> and <i>Steppenwolf</i> in the 60s and liked them very much. I think that the first part of <i>Demian</i>, in which the child protagonist is a victim of extortion by another child, is especially masterful.</p>
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