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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672692</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K:

I believe there will also be claims for hormone treatment of minors - infertility, irreversible voice changes, etc..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K:</p>
<p>I believe there will also be claims for hormone treatment of minors &#8211; infertility, irreversible voice changes, etc..</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 23:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;minors who identify as trans are even less likely to have surgery.&lt;/i&gt;

The damage claims are going to be about surgery.  The others have the chance to grow out of it.  The recovered memories case was about parents so maybe parents have a case unless they signed a consent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>minors who identify as trans are even less likely to have surgery.</i></p>
<p>The damage claims are going to be about surgery.  The others have the chance to grow out of it.  The recovered memories case was about parents so maybe parents have a case unless they signed a consent.</p>
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		By: Skip		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A good read Devil and Karl Marx Communism&#039;s Long March of Death, Deception and Infiltration about what a miserable human Marx was, how the Soviets infiltrated Western religions and how the new Marxists have changed original class warfare into the Cultural Marxism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good read Devil and Karl Marx Communism&#8217;s Long March of Death, Deception and Infiltration about what a miserable human Marx was, how the Soviets infiltrated Western religions and how the new Marxists have changed original class warfare into the Cultural Marxism.</p>
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		By: Turtler		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672656</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What strikes me worst about Biden is what it says about us. Biden has always been a horrible wretch of a human being almost completely devoid of redeeming qualities, but yet he has managed to hold office for decades upon decades. In spite of the well documented racism, dishonesty, lies, malevolence, and staggering idiocy. I know there is a split about whether or not he “legitimately” won over Trump in 2020, but the fact that it is debatable at all and that they could maneuver him into the margin of fraud is staggering.

A few things that arise from this.

Firstly: this is not a new problem at all. Biden himself is not a new problem and this predates him, though it has only gotten worse. We like to talk a lot about the effects of the woke revolution and the 1970s, but Biden shows there was something wrong with the body politic and the Dem Machine as a whole.

Secondly: As fancy and justified as it is to focus on The Woke, Biden comes from a generation before it really took off and is very distinctly a problem with the machine politics and corruption among the more “baseline” of the party. And shows how to the extent they have hewed to the Woke it was largely a matter of calculation and figuring out which way the wind was blowing.

Thirdly: it makes me reassess and concur with the idea that America needs stronger and more permissible libel laws. I have previously resisted them like hell, but I legitimately do believe it has gone too far, especially in terms of attacks on public figures. And being able to clean Biden out after things like his smears of the surviving driver in the accident that killed his wife would likely have shut him down, as well as other malcontents.

Fourthly: It reaffirms my belief about the deep evils afflicting the media. They afflict only those that suit their purposes, and that has allowed people like him to grow very comfortable indeed. Hence the systematic disinformation. Biden and his puppeteers have been masterminding this more forcefully as the Twitter files show, but they had to have private sector support to get that far.

Fifth: it shows how deep partisanship and in particular degredation of standards has come. By rights Biden should have been turfed out of power long ago due to incompetence and being an embarrassment.

Stuff like this burns me out and enrages me like mad, all the worse because I do not really have any good answers on what to do about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What strikes me worst about Biden is what it says about us. Biden has always been a horrible wretch of a human being almost completely devoid of redeeming qualities, but yet he has managed to hold office for decades upon decades. In spite of the well documented racism, dishonesty, lies, malevolence, and staggering idiocy. I know there is a split about whether or not he “legitimately” won over Trump in 2020, but the fact that it is debatable at all and that they could maneuver him into the margin of fraud is staggering.</p>
<p>A few things that arise from this.</p>
<p>Firstly: this is not a new problem at all. Biden himself is not a new problem and this predates him, though it has only gotten worse. We like to talk a lot about the effects of the woke revolution and the 1970s, but Biden shows there was something wrong with the body politic and the Dem Machine as a whole.</p>
<p>Secondly: As fancy and justified as it is to focus on The Woke, Biden comes from a generation before it really took off and is very distinctly a problem with the machine politics and corruption among the more “baseline” of the party. And shows how to the extent they have hewed to the Woke it was largely a matter of calculation and figuring out which way the wind was blowing.</p>
<p>Thirdly: it makes me reassess and concur with the idea that America needs stronger and more permissible libel laws. I have previously resisted them like hell, but I legitimately do believe it has gone too far, especially in terms of attacks on public figures. And being able to clean Biden out after things like his smears of the surviving driver in the accident that killed his wife would likely have shut him down, as well as other malcontents.</p>
<p>Fourthly: It reaffirms my belief about the deep evils afflicting the media. They afflict only those that suit their purposes, and that has allowed people like him to grow very comfortable indeed. Hence the systematic disinformation. Biden and his puppeteers have been masterminding this more forcefully as the Twitter files show, but they had to have private sector support to get that far.</p>
<p>Fifth: it shows how deep partisanship and in particular degredation of standards has come. By rights Biden should have been turfed out of power long ago due to incompetence and being an embarrassment.</p>
<p>Stuff like this burns me out and enrages me like mad, all the worse because I do not really have any good answers on what to do about it.</p>
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		By: Yawrate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672646</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This all the fault of the squishy middle. Those that vote for Dems because they always have or because they want to be seen as &quot;nice&quot;. 

The Dems are the party of open borders, open jails, and open locker rooms.

Any vote for the Democrats is a vote for the further destruction of our nation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all the fault of the squishy middle. Those that vote for Dems because they always have or because they want to be seen as &#8220;nice&#8221;. </p>
<p>The Dems are the party of open borders, open jails, and open locker rooms.</p>
<p>Any vote for the Democrats is a vote for the further destruction of our nation.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 19:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike K:

You write: &quot;Adult transgenders usually don’t have the mutilating surgery.&quot;  I believe that&#039;s correct, but that minors who identify as trans are even less likely to have surgery.  However, in both groups, quite a few do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K:</p>
<p>You write: &#8220;Adult transgenders usually don’t have the mutilating surgery.&#8221;  I believe that&#8217;s correct, but that minors who identify as trans are even less likely to have surgery.  However, in both groups, quite a few do.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672641</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; If I were running a medical malpractice insurance company, I would be warning my client doctors that their coverage will be yanked, if they continue this nonsense.&lt;/i&gt;

And the damages will be huge.  Recovered memories mostly damaged parents but this will be lifelong damage to kids who will be sterile.  What are the damages to victims who will never have a normal life ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> If I were running a medical malpractice insurance company, I would be warning my client doctors that their coverage will be yanked, if they continue this nonsense.</i></p>
<p>And the damages will be huge.  Recovered memories mostly damaged parents but this will be lifelong damage to kids who will be sterile.  What are the damages to victims who will never have a normal life ?</p>
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		By: Bruce Hayden		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/23/bidens-original-sin/#comment-2672638</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“There are a couple of lawsuits pending and more will follow. They will be on consent issues and I don’t see how the defendants can win these. Adult transgenders usually don’t have the mutilating surgery. The “suicide” argument is bogus and suicides are just as frequent in postop transgendered kids”

They may win some. If the parents consent, and were fully informed. But, yes, the consent aspect is going to be key here for a lot of the suits involving minors. The kids can’t give consent, and neither can their teachers. Unfortunately, public school  teachers pushing kids into this are likely to get qualified immunity. Maybe not, given that it is out of their job description. We can only hope. But the doctors doing this sort of thing are likely not going to be as lucky. If I were a doctor, dealing with this sort of thing, I wouldn’t touch the kids, or even talk to them, without full parental knowledge and consent. I can see them trying to make this like abortion, but here, the medical professionals are very often neutering the kids, and it will be those now sterile kids who will be the plaintiffs. If I were running a medical malpractice insurance company, I would be warning my client doctors that their coverage will be yanked, if they continue this nonsense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“There are a couple of lawsuits pending and more will follow. They will be on consent issues and I don’t see how the defendants can win these. Adult transgenders usually don’t have the mutilating surgery. The “suicide” argument is bogus and suicides are just as frequent in postop transgendered kids”</p>
<p>They may win some. If the parents consent, and were fully informed. But, yes, the consent aspect is going to be key here for a lot of the suits involving minors. The kids can’t give consent, and neither can their teachers. Unfortunately, public school  teachers pushing kids into this are likely to get qualified immunity. Maybe not, given that it is out of their job description. We can only hope. But the doctors doing this sort of thing are likely not going to be as lucky. If I were a doctor, dealing with this sort of thing, I wouldn’t touch the kids, or even talk to them, without full parental knowledge and consent. I can see them trying to make this like abortion, but here, the medical professionals are very often neutering the kids, and it will be those now sterile kids who will be the plaintiffs. If I were running a medical malpractice insurance company, I would be warning my client doctors that their coverage will be yanked, if they continue this nonsense.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 17:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great comments by Cornhead on &quot;follow the money&quot; and Medicaid, and by Leah about legally federalizing these sorts of issues.

&lt;i&gt;And the way we do it is we make sure we pass legislation like we passed on same-sex marriage.&lt;/i&gt;

Near the top, I quipped about the error of this line implying that it&#039;s probably just Sloe Joe being his usual senile self.  But the more I think about it, I suspect it was a carefully scripted line that Biden recited correctly.  This would connect with Leah&#039;s point about them wanting to federally coerce these issues.

There&#039;s perhaps an important subtlety here.  If they had passed legislation to enforce same sex marriage or did so in the future for trans issues, then this might be the sort of &quot;tyranny of the majority&quot; that the founding fathers worried about in more pure democracies.

But I think it is true that they (Dems or Uniparty pols) generally don&#039;t find a consensus among majorities for some of the more extreme issues.  What they are really after is a tyranny of the minority, of the sort that can be achieved with SCOTUS decisions.  But they don&#039;t want to admit that so the speech writers rewrite history, Orwell style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments by Cornhead on &#8220;follow the money&#8221; and Medicaid, and by Leah about legally federalizing these sorts of issues.</p>
<p><i>And the way we do it is we make sure we pass legislation like we passed on same-sex marriage.</i></p>
<p>Near the top, I quipped about the error of this line implying that it&#8217;s probably just Sloe Joe being his usual senile self.  But the more I think about it, I suspect it was a carefully scripted line that Biden recited correctly.  This would connect with Leah&#8217;s point about them wanting to federally coerce these issues.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s perhaps an important subtlety here.  If they had passed legislation to enforce same sex marriage or did so in the future for trans issues, then this might be the sort of &#8220;tyranny of the majority&#8221; that the founding fathers worried about in more pure democracies.</p>
<p>But I think it is true that they (Dems or Uniparty pols) generally don&#8217;t find a consensus among majorities for some of the more extreme issues.  What they are really after is a tyranny of the minority, of the sort that can be achieved with SCOTUS decisions.  But they don&#8217;t want to admit that so the speech writers rewrite history, Orwell style.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Mike K: “We are in the beginning of the end of transgender moral panic. Lawsuits will end this soon” I pray you are right. This just can’t go on, if it does we are ruined.&lt;/i&gt;

Memories are short.  I first became aware of the &quot;Recovered Memories&quot; thing in 1994 when I was at Dartmouth.  There was a local case and then I saw &quot;The Courage to Heal&quot; in the Dartmouth Bookstore.  This was a huge thing that followed the McMartin Preschool case and the &quot;daycare center hysteria.&quot;  There were adults in prison for years from that hysteria.  
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.littlerascalsdaycarecase.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Some of the story is here.&lt;/a&gt;  These &quot;moral panics&quot; seem to occur every ten years or so.  The communist witch hunts may have been part of this cycle although there really were communist spies.

Some of these panics may have a financial motive. Just before the daycare panic, Al Gore got a bill passed in Congress that funded child abuse investigations.  

The end of the recovered memories thing was &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramona_false_memory_case&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Gary Ramona&#039;s lawsuit success.&lt;/a&gt;  &quot;Managed Care&quot; had hurt psychologists by limiting the amount insurance would pay for therapy.  The &quot;Recovered Memories&quot; panic was a godsend for therapists.  The American Psychological Association was running workshops on how to &quot;recover memories&quot; at the annual convention that year.  After Ramona won his lawsuit, insurance companies stopped coverage for recovered memories and the panic vanished.

There are a couple of lawsuits pending and more will follow.  They will be on consent issues and I don&#039;t see how the defendants can win these.  Adult transgenders usually don&#039;t have the mutilating surgery.  The &quot;suicide&quot; argument is bogus and suicides are just as frequent in postop transgendered kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mike K: “We are in the beginning of the end of transgender moral panic. Lawsuits will end this soon” I pray you are right. This just can’t go on, if it does we are ruined.</i></p>
<p>Memories are short.  I first became aware of the &#8220;Recovered Memories&#8221; thing in 1994 when I was at Dartmouth.  There was a local case and then I saw &#8220;The Courage to Heal&#8221; in the Dartmouth Bookstore.  This was a huge thing that followed the McMartin Preschool case and the &#8220;daycare center hysteria.&#8221;  There were adults in prison for years from that hysteria.<br />
<a href="https://www.littlerascalsdaycarecase.org/" rel="nofollow ugc"> Some of the story is here.</a>  These &#8220;moral panics&#8221; seem to occur every ten years or so.  The communist witch hunts may have been part of this cycle although there really were communist spies.</p>
<p>Some of these panics may have a financial motive. Just before the daycare panic, Al Gore got a bill passed in Congress that funded child abuse investigations.  </p>
<p>The end of the recovered memories thing was <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramona_false_memory_case" rel="nofollow ugc"> Gary Ramona&#8217;s lawsuit success.</a>  &#8220;Managed Care&#8221; had hurt psychologists by limiting the amount insurance would pay for therapy.  The &#8220;Recovered Memories&#8221; panic was a godsend for therapists.  The American Psychological Association was running workshops on how to &#8220;recover memories&#8221; at the annual convention that year.  After Ramona won his lawsuit, insurance companies stopped coverage for recovered memories and the panic vanished.</p>
<p>There are a couple of lawsuits pending and more will follow.  They will be on consent issues and I don&#8217;t see how the defendants can win these.  Adult transgenders usually don&#8217;t have the mutilating surgery.  The &#8220;suicide&#8221; argument is bogus and suicides are just as frequent in postop transgendered kids.</p>
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