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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/10/naomi-wolf-apologizes-to-conservtives/#comment-2670686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[zeroing in on her epiphany,

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/03/this_great_stage_of_fools.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zeroing in on her epiphany,</p>
<p><a href="https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/03/this_great_stage_of_fools.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/03/this_great_stage_of_fools.html</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/10/naomi-wolf-apologizes-to-conservtives/#comment-2670681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 17:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, yeah, a bit of a kook (or more than a bit); but to paraphrase Dr. Johnson: &quot;...when a feminist knows she&#039;s been mugged over the past several years---with the depressing prospect of being mugged for several more---it concentrates the mind wonderfully...&quot; (well, um, make that &quot;certain feminists&quot; I guess; Phyllis Chesler&#039;s another one, though perhaps not the best example because she realized she was mugged decades ago. And then there&#039;s the editor of &quot;Tablet Magazine&quot;---Alana Newhouse, I believe---whose &quot;conversion&quot; is of more recent vintage....)

In any event, I can&#039;t imagine how difficult it was for Dr. Wolf to totally realign her ideology so as to comport with &quot;her lyin&#039; eyes&quot;.... 
(Moreover, I think her posing with---was that an AR-15?---kinda seals the deal, in a manner of speaking.)

File under: ...but she&#039;s OUR kook...and a most courageous one at that...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yeah, a bit of a kook (or more than a bit); but to paraphrase Dr. Johnson: &#8220;&#8230;when a feminist knows she&#8217;s been mugged over the past several years&#8212;with the depressing prospect of being mugged for several more&#8212;it concentrates the mind wonderfully&#8230;&#8221; (well, um, make that &#8220;certain feminists&#8221; I guess; Phyllis Chesler&#8217;s another one, though perhaps not the best example because she realized she was mugged decades ago. And then there&#8217;s the editor of &#8220;Tablet Magazine&#8221;&#8212;Alana Newhouse, I believe&#8212;whose &#8220;conversion&#8221; is of more recent vintage&#8230;.)</p>
<p>In any event, I can&#8217;t imagine how difficult it was for Dr. Wolf to totally realign her ideology so as to comport with &#8220;her lyin&#8217; eyes&#8221;&#8230;.<br />
(Moreover, I think her posing with&#8212;was that an AR-15?&#8212;kinda seals the deal, in a manner of speaking.)</p>
<p>File under: &#8230;but she&#8217;s OUR kook&#8230;and a most courageous one at that&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/10/naomi-wolf-apologizes-to-conservtives/#comment-2670675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately there&#039;s a lot of evidence that you&#039;re right, Israel. I was thinking of sharing that article with some left-wing acquaintances, as she is or at least was until very recently decidedly a leftist, so I thought they might pay attention. But I vaguely recollected that I had heard of her making some big factual claims that were disproved. So I looked at the Wikipedia article, which was instructive in two ways:

1) Her history is that of an often somewhat nutty (from my point of view) feminist-leftist, including a highly questionable sexual harassment accusation against the literary critic Harold Bloom. 

2) The Wikipedia article can fairly be construed as a hit piece, in that it emphasizes the negative almost exclusively. So that tells us a lot about what can happen on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf

Still, there is enough there that is pretty definitely true, like the factual errors that caused one of her books to be pulled before distribution in the U.S., to call her general reliability into question, *especially* if that&#039;s what you&#039;re already disposed to think. So I did not share it, as my acquaintances would certainly dismiss it as the ranting of a nut.  She&#039;s been considered a nut by some on the left for many years, as shown by this Vox piece from 2014:

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/5/6909837/naomi-wolf-isis-ebola-scotland-conspiracy-theories

As far as I can tell she&#039;s right or mostly right about Jan 6, and I certainly appreciate the apology. But she&#039;s probably not going to make a dent in progressive heads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately there&#8217;s a lot of evidence that you&#8217;re right, Israel. I was thinking of sharing that article with some left-wing acquaintances, as she is or at least was until very recently decidedly a leftist, so I thought they might pay attention. But I vaguely recollected that I had heard of her making some big factual claims that were disproved. So I looked at the Wikipedia article, which was instructive in two ways:</p>
<p>1) Her history is that of an often somewhat nutty (from my point of view) feminist-leftist, including a highly questionable sexual harassment accusation against the literary critic Harold Bloom. </p>
<p>2) The Wikipedia article can fairly be construed as a hit piece, in that it emphasizes the negative almost exclusively. So that tells us a lot about what can happen on Wikipedia.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf</a></p>
<p>Still, there is enough there that is pretty definitely true, like the factual errors that caused one of her books to be pulled before distribution in the U.S., to call her general reliability into question, *especially* if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re already disposed to think. So I did not share it, as my acquaintances would certainly dismiss it as the ranting of a nut.  She&#8217;s been considered a nut by some on the left for many years, as shown by this Vox piece from 2014:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.vox.com/2014/10/5/6909837/naomi-wolf-isis-ebola-scotland-conspiracy-theories" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.vox.com/2014/10/5/6909837/naomi-wolf-isis-ebola-scotland-conspiracy-theories</a></p>
<p>As far as I can tell she&#8217;s right or mostly right about Jan 6, and I certainly appreciate the apology. But she&#8217;s probably not going to make a dent in progressive heads.</p>
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		By: Israel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Israel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She&#039;s a kook though. Just because she might be correct on some things, doesn&#039;t mean sh should be embraced]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s a kook though. Just because she might be correct on some things, doesn&#8217;t mean sh should be embraced</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/10/naomi-wolf-apologizes-to-conservtives/#comment-2670664</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 14:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A fine and brave apology, which even includes the single most important word.
Demonization.

Naomi Wolf Demonization Syndrome.
This is often mislabeled as Trump Derangement Syndrome, from the prior Krauthammer Bush Derangement Syndrome and similar demonization against many Republicans: Reagan, Palin, Kavanaugh, Bork, Nixon, even Goldwater.

Demonization feels good - good vs the evil demon.

College demonization against Republicans should result in ending tax exempt status.

But solving the Dem Demonization problem requires identifying it - Demonization.
Democrat Demonization Syndrome.
Dem lies are mostly just &quot;more Dem Demonization&quot;. 

It won&#039;t stop until it&#039;s punished. 
 
More publicity with the more accurate Demonization label, will end it sooner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine and brave apology, which even includes the single most important word.<br />
Demonization.</p>
<p>Naomi Wolf Demonization Syndrome.<br />
This is often mislabeled as Trump Derangement Syndrome, from the prior Krauthammer Bush Derangement Syndrome and similar demonization against many Republicans: Reagan, Palin, Kavanaugh, Bork, Nixon, even Goldwater.</p>
<p>Demonization feels good &#8211; good vs the evil demon.</p>
<p>College demonization against Republicans should result in ending tax exempt status.</p>
<p>But solving the Dem Demonization problem requires identifying it &#8211; Demonization.<br />
Democrat Demonization Syndrome.<br />
Dem lies are mostly just &#8220;more Dem Demonization&#8221;. </p>
<p>It won&#8217;t stop until it&#8217;s punished. </p>
<p>More publicity with the more accurate Demonization label, will end it sooner.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/10/naomi-wolf-apologizes-to-conservtives/#comment-2670559</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 20:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle

It&#039;s not her fault the lies were out there.  M question is how she missed the fact that, one after the other, after the other, they were all proven untrue.
It would require a sustained effort at segregating one&#039;s information sources to miss that.  She didn&#039;t need to watch Fox for a correction,.
Or, if we insist that only Fox and similar outlets were correctives, then how did she miss the fact that they were rarely wrong?  She had to have stopped up her ears, more or less metaphorically, to positively, actively avoid such information.
Did/does that not cause some unease in a normal person? NO, NO!  DON&#039;T TELL ME ANY OF THAT!  I DON&#039;T WANT TO KNOW.  I CAN&#039;T ALLOW MYSELF TO HEAR!
How much is that exaggerated from those we know, or at least the most vociferous of those we know on the prog side?

She should not apologize for being the passive target of lies, but for actively seeking to avoid contradictory information. Consciously. Knowingly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Guilfoyle</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not her fault the lies were out there.  M question is how she missed the fact that, one after the other, after the other, they were all proven untrue.<br />
It would require a sustained effort at segregating one&#8217;s information sources to miss that.  She didn&#8217;t need to watch Fox for a correction,.<br />
Or, if we insist that only Fox and similar outlets were correctives, then how did she miss the fact that they were rarely wrong?  She had to have stopped up her ears, more or less metaphorically, to positively, actively avoid such information.<br />
Did/does that not cause some unease in a normal person? NO, NO!  DON&#8217;T TELL ME ANY OF THAT!  I DON&#8217;T WANT TO KNOW.  I CAN&#8217;T ALLOW MYSELF TO HEAR!<br />
How much is that exaggerated from those we know, or at least the most vociferous of those we know on the prog side?</p>
<p>She should not apologize for being the passive target of lies, but for actively seeking to avoid contradictory information. Consciously. Knowingly.</p>
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		By: Gordon Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 19:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I worked in my family&#039;s newspaper in the 1970s, it was my job to deal with the college interns. I had to teach them how to find and report the police and court news (very important in a local paper) as well as how to cover a school board meeting. Trust me, they did not like the 16-year old teaching them; they were all gonna be the next Woodstein. But the WaPo doesn&#039;t hire grads from 3rd tier state sectional schools. Local papers did, and thus they needed my tutoring.

The existing staff were, with the exception of the editor, all from other fields who wound up doing newspaper work because they could write, and it was available. But it meant that we had a very broad, smart (not necessarily educated) crew that  had real world experience.

I could see the change coming, though, in the interns. They didn&#039;t have the experience, were uniformly liberal, and thought They Knew Better. 45 years on, the adults in the room have retired or died, and even that generation who were trained by the adults have mostly gone on. Now, the brats are in charge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I worked in my family&#8217;s newspaper in the 1970s, it was my job to deal with the college interns. I had to teach them how to find and report the police and court news (very important in a local paper) as well as how to cover a school board meeting. Trust me, they did not like the 16-year old teaching them; they were all gonna be the next Woodstein. But the WaPo doesn&#8217;t hire grads from 3rd tier state sectional schools. Local papers did, and thus they needed my tutoring.</p>
<p>The existing staff were, with the exception of the editor, all from other fields who wound up doing newspaper work because they could write, and it was available. But it meant that we had a very broad, smart (not necessarily educated) crew that  had real world experience.</p>
<p>I could see the change coming, though, in the interns. They didn&#8217;t have the experience, were uniformly liberal, and thought They Knew Better. 45 years on, the adults in the room have retired or died, and even that generation who were trained by the adults have mostly gone on. Now, the brats are in charge.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/10/naomi-wolf-apologizes-to-conservtives/#comment-2670552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truths come from odd places


https://www.coordinationproblem.org/2019/08/a-fictional-conversation-between-emma-goldman-and-john-reed-a-must-watch-for-anyone-thinking-about-t.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truths come from odd places</p>
<p><a href="https://www.coordinationproblem.org/2019/08/a-fictional-conversation-between-emma-goldman-and-john-reed-a-must-watch-for-anyone-thinking-about-t.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.coordinationproblem.org/2019/08/a-fictional-conversation-between-emma-goldman-and-john-reed-a-must-watch-for-anyone-thinking-about-t.html</a></p>
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		By: John Guilfoyle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Guilfoyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 18:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t like President Trump (Do I not? Who knows? I have been lied to about him so much for so long, I can‘t tell whether my instinctive aversion is simply the habituated residue of years of being on the receiving end of lies).&quot;

I&#039;m appreciative of Ms Wolf&#039;s apology. I&#039;ll assume it&#039;s genuine &#038; accept it as such although you&#039;d be forgiven if you shrugged your shoulders &#038; said &quot;So what?&quot; Truly, what&#039;s going to come of it?

But the above sentence is one of those not-so-subtle proofs of leftism-is-a-religious-cult. Her own self-reflective capacity is lost to the hive-mind. We&#039;re in one of those &quot;battles not against flesh &#038; blood&quot; scenarios.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t like President Trump (Do I not? Who knows? I have been lied to about him so much for so long, I can‘t tell whether my instinctive aversion is simply the habituated residue of years of being on the receiving end of lies).&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m appreciative of Ms Wolf&#8217;s apology. I&#8217;ll assume it&#8217;s genuine &amp; accept it as such although you&#8217;d be forgiven if you shrugged your shoulders &amp; said &#8220;So what?&#8221; Truly, what&#8217;s going to come of it?</p>
<p>But the above sentence is one of those not-so-subtle proofs of leftism-is-a-religious-cult. Her own self-reflective capacity is lost to the hive-mind. We&#8217;re in one of those &#8220;battles not against flesh &amp; blood&#8221; scenarios.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 17:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totally disagree on the coverage of Clinton. After the success of Gingrich&#039;s Contract with America gave the House to the GOP in 1994 everything changed. EVERYTHING changed.

I talked with Tony Snow about it before and after the election. He and his friend, Andrew Ferguson, generally believed that most of their buddies in the news media were honest but biased in their perceptions. After two years of nonstop gaffes, mind-numbing corruption, and scandals galore, Tony said in the summer of 1994 the consensus of everyone in DC was that Bubba and Hillary were a joke (his word).

Then the election shocker happened. And stuff got real. The D team needed the news media to go to bat for them and they did. The only reason the coverage wasn&#039;t as ridiculous back then was because the news media still had journalism pros in charge who realized that blatantly partisan news is not effective propaganda. 

They were more effective at propaganda back then because it still sounded like news.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally disagree on the coverage of Clinton. After the success of Gingrich&#8217;s Contract with America gave the House to the GOP in 1994 everything changed. EVERYTHING changed.</p>
<p>I talked with Tony Snow about it before and after the election. He and his friend, Andrew Ferguson, generally believed that most of their buddies in the news media were honest but biased in their perceptions. After two years of nonstop gaffes, mind-numbing corruption, and scandals galore, Tony said in the summer of 1994 the consensus of everyone in DC was that Bubba and Hillary were a joke (his word).</p>
<p>Then the election shocker happened. And stuff got real. The D team needed the news media to go to bat for them and they did. The only reason the coverage wasn&#8217;t as ridiculous back then was because the news media still had journalism pros in charge who realized that blatantly partisan news is not effective propaganda. </p>
<p>They were more effective at propaganda back then because it still sounded like news.</p>
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