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	Comments on: Jonathan Turley on the Jan 6th videos of the shaman guy, and his prosecution	</title>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;We know he disappeared, we strongly suspect he was murdered and his body disposed of, there are various stories to that effect. but whatever the truth is, it hasn’t come out.&lt;/i&gt;
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Little question he was murdered.  The question has always  been who did what.  There is evidence against Anthony Giacalone and &#039;Chuckie O&#039;Brien&#039;.  Giacalone died in 2001 and O&#039;Brien in 2020.  
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&lt;i&gt;Then there’s Judge Crater, who became a running joke in “Mad” magazine for his famous disappearance which remains a mystery.&lt;/i&gt;
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Scant doubt he was murdered as well. There is reason to believe from his wife&#039;s account he was involved in some sort of business  dispute, but she did not know what it was.  The two people he had dinner with the night he disappeared said in one account to the authorities that he left in a cab and in another account that they took a cab and he left the restaurant on foot.  He and his clerk did office work that day, but nothing in the clerk&#039;s account of what they were doing was illuminating, though it did sound odd.  There were two police searches of his apartment, the second of which found some valuables not found in the first search (cash and securities, IIRC); what that says about his wife&#039;s activities who can say.  He was a recent addition to the trial bench in Manhattan.  The other judges would have known or surmised something about the machinations which got him his judicial berth, but they likely couldn&#039;t say much about that without tainting themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We know he disappeared, we strongly suspect he was murdered and his body disposed of, there are various stories to that effect. but whatever the truth is, it hasn’t come out.</i><br />
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Little question he was murdered.  The question has always  been who did what.  There is evidence against Anthony Giacalone and &#8216;Chuckie O&#8217;Brien&#8217;.  Giacalone died in 2001 and O&#8217;Brien in 2020.<br />
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<i>Then there’s Judge Crater, who became a running joke in “Mad” magazine for his famous disappearance which remains a mystery.</i><br />
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Scant doubt he was murdered as well. There is reason to believe from his wife&#8217;s account he was involved in some sort of business  dispute, but she did not know what it was.  The two people he had dinner with the night he disappeared said in one account to the authorities that he left in a cab and in another account that they took a cab and he left the restaurant on foot.  He and his clerk did office work that day, but nothing in the clerk&#8217;s account of what they were doing was illuminating, though it did sound odd.  There were two police searches of his apartment, the second of which found some valuables not found in the first search (cash and securities, IIRC); what that says about his wife&#8217;s activities who can say.  He was a recent addition to the trial bench in Manhattan.  The other judges would have known or surmised something about the machinations which got him his judicial berth, but they likely couldn&#8217;t say much about that without tainting themselves.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2023 00:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...the truth will come out eventually.&lt;/i&gt;

Nonapod:

Perhaps. I don&#039;t consider it a sure thing. 

What happened to Jimmy Hoffa? 

We know he disappeared, we strongly suspect he was murdered and his body disposed of, there are various stories to that effect. but whatever the truth is, it hasn&#039;t come out.

Then there&#039;s Judge Crater, who became a running joke in &quot;Mad&quot; magazine for his famous disappearance which remains a mystery.

I think people can keep secrets, though not always.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;the truth will come out eventually.</i></p>
<p>Nonapod:</p>
<p>Perhaps. I don&#8217;t consider it a sure thing. </p>
<p>What happened to Jimmy Hoffa? </p>
<p>We know he disappeared, we strongly suspect he was murdered and his body disposed of, there are various stories to that effect. but whatever the truth is, it hasn&#8217;t come out.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s Judge Crater, who became a running joke in &#8220;Mad&#8221; magazine for his famous disappearance which remains a mystery.</p>
<p>I think people can keep secrets, though not always.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yogananda (shirley) was the intelligence chief, sarc before she replaced chief sund]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yogananda (shirley) was the intelligence chief, sarc before she replaced chief sund</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I cherry-picked those, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cherry-picked those, of course.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are comments on the old video from  the beginning up to this week. 

@petersmithyy4556
1 year ago
Yeah sure a couple of the people that broke a window. Woohoo. Why most of the time everyone was pretty much doing nothing lol walking within the Velvet ropes

@braden2345
10 months ago
0:51 he stops the guy from stealing candy lol

@grandmaismyname1597
1 day ago
New videos of J6 shows Jacob Chansley was not violent during the protest. All this video shows is that he was surrounded by many other protesters who were very loud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are comments on the old video from  the beginning up to this week. </p>
<p>@petersmithyy4556<br />
1 year ago<br />
Yeah sure a couple of the people that broke a window. Woohoo. Why most of the time everyone was pretty much doing nothing lol walking within the Velvet ropes</p>
<p>@braden2345<br />
10 months ago<br />
0:51 he stops the guy from stealing candy lol</p>
<p>@grandmaismyname1597<br />
1 day ago<br />
New videos of J6 shows Jacob Chansley was not violent during the protest. All this video shows is that he was surrounded by many other protesters who were very loud.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The video that gwynmir linked shows Chansley going through the building doors with a large crowd, next to the window that IS being violently broken -- which looks like the clip Tucker showed from the other direction.

&quot;2021 Judge releases new video of &#039;QAnon Shaman&#039; Jacob Chansley during Capitol riot - Exhibit 2&quot;

I&#039;m not sure that the people kicking the door out (if it was that door) and the window in were charged or not; they were certainly identified by DOJ with their technology, as described in some of my other comments last night.

Then he disappears from frames of the crowd, which is rowdy but not violent, until a few minutes later when he is shown going up the stairs with them.
NOT leading them, as the Democrats repeatedly claimed.

So, when did he get separated from the rest of the mob?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The video that gwynmir linked shows Chansley going through the building doors with a large crowd, next to the window that IS being violently broken &#8212; which looks like the clip Tucker showed from the other direction.</p>
<p>&#8220;2021 Judge releases new video of &#8216;QAnon Shaman&#8217; Jacob Chansley during Capitol riot &#8211; Exhibit 2&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that the people kicking the door out (if it was that door) and the window in were charged or not; they were certainly identified by DOJ with their technology, as described in some of my other comments last night.</p>
<p>Then he disappears from frames of the crowd, which is rowdy but not violent, until a few minutes later when he is shown going up the stairs with them.<br />
NOT leading them, as the Democrats repeatedly claimed.</p>
<p>So, when did he get separated from the rest of the mob?</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan:

I noticed that Andrew McCarthy went off the rails when January 6th happened.  He still is rational on many other topics, but never has been rational on that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan:</p>
<p>I noticed that Andrew McCarthy went off the rails when January 6th happened.  He still is rational on many other topics, but never has been rational on that one.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Rufus, Nonapod, &#038; Gwynmir -- all good points.
I had another question about Chansley in the chambers:
he is alone with all the cops escorting him, but then Tucker&#039;s videos cut to the inside of the Senate room and it&#039;s full of other protesters -- where did they come from and when? Did they get escorted in also? Are they who the CPD referred to when whining that they had to &quot;de-escalate&quot; so the mob wouldn&#039;t get violent -- all patently false applied to Chansley himself, and most of the people in the building.

IMO, any cop could have stood in a doorway or hall entrance and requested they not enter, and the grannies and tourists would have obeyed. The agitators, maybe not, but they weren&#039;t part of the &quot;Chansley crowd&quot; that we saw on Tucker&#039;s clips

We actually don&#039;t know if there were more violent, or more peaceful, people, because no one&#039;s counted up the incidents yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rufus, Nonapod, &amp; Gwynmir &#8212; all good points.<br />
I had another question about Chansley in the chambers:<br />
he is alone with all the cops escorting him, but then Tucker&#8217;s videos cut to the inside of the Senate room and it&#8217;s full of other protesters &#8212; where did they come from and when? Did they get escorted in also? Are they who the CPD referred to when whining that they had to &#8220;de-escalate&#8221; so the mob wouldn&#8217;t get violent &#8212; all patently false applied to Chansley himself, and most of the people in the building.</p>
<p>IMO, any cop could have stood in a doorway or hall entrance and requested they not enter, and the grannies and tourists would have obeyed. The agitators, maybe not, but they weren&#8217;t part of the &#8220;Chansley crowd&#8221; that we saw on Tucker&#8217;s clips</p>
<p>We actually don&#8217;t know if there were more violent, or more peaceful, people, because no one&#8217;s counted up the incidents yet.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mike K &#062; &quot;It looks like Fox News has caved to threats from both parties and shut down Tucker Carlson’s showing of the videos. We’ll see what happens to night.&quot;

It doesn&#039;t look to me that Tucker pulled any punches last night (3/8).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPg9N_HiLMg

He didn&#039;t air anything new, granted, but IMO that was because of two things:

(1) He&#039;s working on the fly addressing the reactions to the Monday &#038; Tuesday shows; although I suspect he had a provisional script in the can ready to go, because Schumer and McConnell are predictable. Thus he reiterated, again, that the Democrats in and out of the J6 hearings &lt;b&gt;lied, repeatedly, &lt;/b&gt;about Chansley, and about the police allegedly &quot;killed&quot; by the violence at the Capitol  -- which Tucker did not diminish, and which he does not dispute -- when in fact they were not.

(2) He&#039;s hammering the Chansley case because it&#039;s an obvious violation of the Shaman&#039;s constitutional civil right to a fair trial, and a blatant violation of the Brady Act.

The J6 Committee narrative is that the Shaman was the &quot;flag carrier&quot; of the insurrectionists, and &quot;put himself at the center&quot; of the riot.
If Tucker can show that was NOT the case -- and the tapes are pretty clear about it -- then he&#039;s put the slag heap of the left at the tipping point.

Historically, Americans react strongly to unfairness (the left&#039;s sham &quot;equity&quot; trades on that), and while there is no hope of changing the die-hard partisans, the fair-minded but misled public &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; be convinced that the agenda of the Democrats has very little to do with saving democracy, or anything other than their own power &#038; perks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike K &gt; &#8220;It looks like Fox News has caved to threats from both parties and shut down Tucker Carlson’s showing of the videos. We’ll see what happens to night.&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t look to me that Tucker pulled any punches last night (3/8).</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPg9N_HiLMg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPg9N_HiLMg</a></p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t air anything new, granted, but IMO that was because of two things:</p>
<p>(1) He&#8217;s working on the fly addressing the reactions to the Monday &amp; Tuesday shows; although I suspect he had a provisional script in the can ready to go, because Schumer and McConnell are predictable. Thus he reiterated, again, that the Democrats in and out of the J6 hearings <b>lied, repeatedly, </b>about Chansley, and about the police allegedly &#8220;killed&#8221; by the violence at the Capitol  &#8212; which Tucker did not diminish, and which he does not dispute &#8212; when in fact they were not.</p>
<p>(2) He&#8217;s hammering the Chansley case because it&#8217;s an obvious violation of the Shaman&#8217;s constitutional civil right to a fair trial, and a blatant violation of the Brady Act.</p>
<p>The J6 Committee narrative is that the Shaman was the &#8220;flag carrier&#8221; of the insurrectionists, and &#8220;put himself at the center&#8221; of the riot.<br />
If Tucker can show that was NOT the case &#8212; and the tapes are pretty clear about it &#8212; then he&#8217;s put the slag heap of the left at the tipping point.</p>
<p>Historically, Americans react strongly to unfairness (the left&#8217;s sham &#8220;equity&#8221; trades on that), and while there is no hope of changing the die-hard partisans, the fair-minded but misled public <em>can</em> be convinced that the agenda of the Democrats has very little to do with saving democracy, or anything other than their own power &amp; perks.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;David Foster on March 9, 2023 at 8:41 am said:
Mike K…”It looks like Fox News has caved to threats from both parties and shut down Tucker Carlson’s showing of the videos. We’ll see what happens to night.”

I didn’t see anything about this with a quick search. Where did you hear it?&lt;/i&gt;

That was pure editorial by me after watching his second night.  On Wednesday he did show more video about the guy in the horns, Chansley.  That guy has a history, according to the lawyer, of mental illness and he sure looked like it that day.

The other factor is that no Republican or Trump voter will ever get a fair trial in DC.  That&#039;s been the case for years.  Look at the cases of &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/this-day-in-politics-june-5-2007-617212&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Scooter Libby &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.npr.org/2019/09/04/757603189/jury-finds-ex-white-house-counsel-craig-not-guilty-of-lying-to-government&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Geoff Craig. &lt;/a&gt;

Libby was clearly innocent.  I actually watched Meet the Press when Tim Russert let the story out.

There was also &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.hoover.org/research/false-evidence-against-scooter-libby&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; gross misbehavior by Fitzgerald. &lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt; From the moment he took over the FBI leak investigation in December 2003, he knew that Mr. Armitage was the leaker but declined to prosecute him, Mr. Rove or Mr. Harlow because the disclosure of Ms. Plame’s identity wasn’t a crime and didn’t compromise national security.

Having failed to find any underlying crime, Mr. Fitzgerald nonetheless pressed on for someone to prosecute, eventually focusing on Mr. Libby, whose trial became a contest of recollections. The excruciatingly inconsequential question on which his conviction turned was whether, as Mr. Libby recalled, he was surprised to hear NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Tim Russert ask him about Ms. Plame in a phone call on July 10 or 11, 2003.&lt;/i&gt;

They are all crooks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>David Foster on March 9, 2023 at 8:41 am said:<br />
Mike K…”It looks like Fox News has caved to threats from both parties and shut down Tucker Carlson’s showing of the videos. We’ll see what happens to night.”</p>
<p>I didn’t see anything about this with a quick search. Where did you hear it?</i></p>
<p>That was pure editorial by me after watching his second night.  On Wednesday he did show more video about the guy in the horns, Chansley.  That guy has a history, according to the lawyer, of mental illness and he sure looked like it that day.</p>
<p>The other factor is that no Republican or Trump voter will ever get a fair trial in DC.  That&#8217;s been the case for years.  Look at the cases of <a href="https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/this-day-in-politics-june-5-2007-617212" rel="nofollow ugc"> Scooter Libby </a> and <a href="https://www.npr.org/2019/09/04/757603189/jury-finds-ex-white-house-counsel-craig-not-guilty-of-lying-to-government" rel="nofollow ugc"> Geoff Craig. </a></p>
<p>Libby was clearly innocent.  I actually watched Meet the Press when Tim Russert let the story out.</p>
<p>There was also <a href="https://www.hoover.org/research/false-evidence-against-scooter-libby" rel="nofollow ugc"> gross misbehavior by Fitzgerald. </a></p>
<p><i> From the moment he took over the FBI leak investigation in December 2003, he knew that Mr. Armitage was the leaker but declined to prosecute him, Mr. Rove or Mr. Harlow because the disclosure of Ms. Plame’s identity wasn’t a crime and didn’t compromise national security.</p>
<p>Having failed to find any underlying crime, Mr. Fitzgerald nonetheless pressed on for someone to prosecute, eventually focusing on Mr. Libby, whose trial became a contest of recollections. The excruciatingly inconsequential question on which his conviction turned was whether, as Mr. Libby recalled, he was surprised to hear NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Tim Russert ask him about Ms. Plame in a phone call on July 10 or 11, 2003.</i></p>
<p>They are all crooks.</p>
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