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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669776</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[stan doesn&#039;t seem to like Judith Curry.  

Good thing stan is on our side since he knows all the details of Judith Curry&#039;s case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stan doesn&#8217;t seem to like Judith Curry.  </p>
<p>Good thing stan is on our side since he knows all the details of Judith Curry&#8217;s case.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669774</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre ought to be a hero for his dogged, fair-minded work.  His climate audit blog and the links he lists are the best source of quality science on the subject.

An Aussie group put up a great source of most of the important emails in climategate. The lies of the alarmist &quot;hockey team&quot; were exposed for being blatant and relentless.

Jeff Condon (as Jeff Id) was excellent in his analysis. His blog is The Air Vent. He was one of the recipients of the leak.

Coyoteblog used to have a good presentation on the many problems of global warming science. 

WattsUpWithThat is still a good source.

Most of the brilliant people who tore apart the corruption and incompetence of the global warming scam have moved on. They very clearly proved it was bad science. And the world made it very clear that it didn&#039;t matter. It had to be really disheartening to realize just how corrupt our institutions are.

Of course, we&#039;ve seen it on issue after issue over the last few decades. Truth doesn&#039;t matter. The constitution doesn&#039;t matter. The rule of law doesn&#039;t matter. Big Brother just keeps tightening the noose. And America keeps getting weaker and weaker. And Democrats and their voters keep celebrating their rampant criminality with smug, moral hubris.

Curry defended the indefensible for many years. She participated in scientific fraud and has never apologized. I doubt she ever will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve McIntyre ought to be a hero for his dogged, fair-minded work.  His climate audit blog and the links he lists are the best source of quality science on the subject.</p>
<p>An Aussie group put up a great source of most of the important emails in climategate. The lies of the alarmist &#8220;hockey team&#8221; were exposed for being blatant and relentless.</p>
<p>Jeff Condon (as Jeff Id) was excellent in his analysis. His blog is The Air Vent. He was one of the recipients of the leak.</p>
<p>Coyoteblog used to have a good presentation on the many problems of global warming science. </p>
<p>WattsUpWithThat is still a good source.</p>
<p>Most of the brilliant people who tore apart the corruption and incompetence of the global warming scam have moved on. They very clearly proved it was bad science. And the world made it very clear that it didn&#8217;t matter. It had to be really disheartening to realize just how corrupt our institutions are.</p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;ve seen it on issue after issue over the last few decades. Truth doesn&#8217;t matter. The constitution doesn&#8217;t matter. The rule of law doesn&#8217;t matter. Big Brother just keeps tightening the noose. And America keeps getting weaker and weaker. And Democrats and their voters keep celebrating their rampant criminality with smug, moral hubris.</p>
<p>Curry defended the indefensible for many years. She participated in scientific fraud and has never apologized. I doubt she ever will.</p>
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		By: Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669622</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curry is right, Peterson talks too much.  He has some good points, but &lt;i&gt;she&lt;/i&gt; is the expert in this gig and one can tell from her facial expressions that she is feeling a little marginalized.  It was worth watching, though. 

I remember pursuing a degree in Geology in the late 70s.  The Acid Rain problem was just starting to be characterized, the funding was in place and data was being collected by research groups in dozens of universities.  And of course the data was pretty clear, and the policy and legislation followed that cleaned up the industrial sulfur emissions problems and allowed the biological systems to recover.  And there&#039;s not much doubt about the improvements in the water quality in the NE&#039;s lakes and rivers.   

But: It was on the back of this successful effort of research-grant money being at the forefront of solving an environmental problem, that the new business model was born, and harnessed for its next, great mission.  I have come to view it as a business model in search of a good subject - and Global Warming was the target of choice.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a coincidence that this has happened during the great expansion phase of the world&#039;s university system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curry is right, Peterson talks too much.  He has some good points, but <i>she</i> is the expert in this gig and one can tell from her facial expressions that she is feeling a little marginalized.  It was worth watching, though. </p>
<p>I remember pursuing a degree in Geology in the late 70s.  The Acid Rain problem was just starting to be characterized, the funding was in place and data was being collected by research groups in dozens of universities.  And of course the data was pretty clear, and the policy and legislation followed that cleaned up the industrial sulfur emissions problems and allowed the biological systems to recover.  And there&#8217;s not much doubt about the improvements in the water quality in the NE&#8217;s lakes and rivers.   </p>
<p>But: It was on the back of this successful effort of research-grant money being at the forefront of solving an environmental problem, that the new business model was born, and harnessed for its next, great mission.  I have come to view it as a business model in search of a good subject &#8211; and Global Warming was the target of choice.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a coincidence that this has happened during the great expansion phase of the world&#8217;s university system.</p>
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		By: Fullmoon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669605</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 20:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[disappointed, expected recipe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>disappointed, expected recipe.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669598</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it was around 1992, when james burke, mostly known for connections, came up with this overheated dystopian melodrama after the warming, which predicted all the things that would come to pass if we didn&#039;t basically curtain industrial civilization, this was an oppenheimer/mann teleplay, about a dozen years later,
it was part of an instructional lesson in a science class, I challenged as many of the premises, as I could with the students,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was around 1992, when james burke, mostly known for connections, came up with this overheated dystopian melodrama after the warming, which predicted all the things that would come to pass if we didn&#8217;t basically curtain industrial civilization, this was an oppenheimer/mann teleplay, about a dozen years later,<br />
it was part of an instructional lesson in a science class, I challenged as many of the premises, as I could with the students,</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669597</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[of course hansen based his analysis on venus&#039;s atmosphere, which was never conducive to life given elements, plus it&#039;s proximity to the sun, is out of the sweat spot,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course hansen based his analysis on venus&#8217;s atmosphere, which was never conducive to life given elements, plus it&#8217;s proximity to the sun, is out of the sweat spot,</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TommyJay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It’s good to remember that this scam started way back in 1989 with Jim Hansen. Frigging 34 years ago!!!&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t recall the exact date but I think it may have been a little before 1989, somewhere around &#039;86 through &#039;88.  That&#039;s when a friend of mine who was a NOAA officer at the time &#038; I attended a lecture on some NOAA research.  They had been measuring CO2 in the Antarctic and on Mt. Haleakala in Maui.

There were no hysterical alarms being put forth, but the basic premise about humans changing our atmosphere and CO2 is a greenhouse gas was unmistakable.  Even back then I was afraid.  Not of the warming, but of the coming government overreach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s good to remember that this scam started way back in 1989 with Jim Hansen. Frigging 34 years ago!!!</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall the exact date but I think it may have been a little before 1989, somewhere around &#8217;86 through &#8217;88.  That&#8217;s when a friend of mine who was a NOAA officer at the time &amp; I attended a lecture on some NOAA research.  They had been measuring CO2 in the Antarctic and on Mt. Haleakala in Maui.</p>
<p>There were no hysterical alarms being put forth, but the basic premise about humans changing our atmosphere and CO2 is a greenhouse gas was unmistakable.  Even back then I was afraid.  Not of the warming, but of the coming government overreach.</p>
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		By: Mike K		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669593</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wavering until the EAU computer scandal. That convinced me it was all a fraud.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/?sh=2437d57a27ba&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; Here is a rare article telling the truth.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The original Climategate emails contained similar evidence of destroying information and data that the public would naturally assume would be available according to freedom of information principles. “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith [Briffa] re AR4 [UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 4th Assessment]?” Jones wrote to Penn State University scientist Michael Mann in an email released in Climategate 1.0. “Keith will do likewise. ... We will be getting Caspar [Ammann] to do likewise. I see that CA [the Climate Audit Web site] claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!”

The new emails also reveal the scientists’ attempts to politicize the debate and advance predetermined outcomes.&lt;/i&gt;

And on it goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wavering until the EAU computer scandal. That convinced me it was all a fraud.  <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/?sh=2437d57a27ba" rel="nofollow ugc"> Here is a rare article telling the truth.</a></p>
<p><i>The original Climategate emails contained similar evidence of destroying information and data that the public would naturally assume would be available according to freedom of information principles. “Mike, can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith [Briffa] re AR4 [UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 4th Assessment]?” Jones wrote to Penn State University scientist Michael Mann in an email released in Climategate 1.0. “Keith will do likewise. &#8230; We will be getting Caspar [Ammann] to do likewise. I see that CA [the Climate Audit Web site] claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!”</p>
<p>The new emails also reveal the scientists’ attempts to politicize the debate and advance predetermined outcomes.</i></p>
<p>And on it goes.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669582</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 12:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Environmentalism long ago became an apocalyptic doomsday cult. They are always warning us about some imaginary existential threat. When I was in college Rachael Carson published her book &quot;Silent Spring&quot; where she claimed that pesticides would kill all the birds and give all of us cancer. I was alarmed, but later found that she was a big liar and her book was full of lies. Next Paul Ehrlich claimed that global cooling was going to cause worldwide crop failures and millions would die. Since global cooling didn&#039;t pan out the environmentalists&#039; pivoter on a dime and started promoting global warming. LOL. Then there was acid rain which was going to kill all the trees and etch all the paint off our cars. Then there was the hole in the ozone which was going to give all of us cataracts and cause us all to go blind. They banned freon to fix the problem. The hole in the ozone is still there and we even had a hole in the ozone open in the northern hemisphere. The hole in the ozone is like the energizer bunny and just keeps on going and going. Well, I don&#039;t believe anything the environmentalists tell me anymore. They blew their credibility by crying wolf too many times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Environmentalism long ago became an apocalyptic doomsday cult. They are always warning us about some imaginary existential threat. When I was in college Rachael Carson published her book &#8220;Silent Spring&#8221; where she claimed that pesticides would kill all the birds and give all of us cancer. I was alarmed, but later found that she was a big liar and her book was full of lies. Next Paul Ehrlich claimed that global cooling was going to cause worldwide crop failures and millions would die. Since global cooling didn&#8217;t pan out the environmentalists&#8217; pivoter on a dime and started promoting global warming. LOL. Then there was acid rain which was going to kill all the trees and etch all the paint off our cars. Then there was the hole in the ozone which was going to give all of us cataracts and cause us all to go blind. They banned freon to fix the problem. The hole in the ozone is still there and we even had a hole in the ozone open in the northern hemisphere. The hole in the ozone is like the energizer bunny and just keeps on going and going. Well, I don&#8217;t believe anything the environmentalists tell me anymore. They blew their credibility by crying wolf too many times.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/03/peterson-and-curry/#comment-2669571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 05:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At 1.5x, his thick Canadian accent is tolerable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 1.5x, his thick Canadian accent is tolerable.</p>
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