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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2023 22:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I took the coursera class on machine learning (by Andrew Ng), we used Matlab a bit.  It was a bit too hard for me to solve easily while working (and playing Dad, Husband, plus some computer games), so I got help solving many of the problems and &quot;doing&quot; Matlab rather than really using it.

Today a lot more data scientists &#038; engineers are using R, but there are also a whole lot more of them; not sure of ratios.

cohere.ai has more intro stuff for the LLMs which are going to be the big new thing - and change business more than the internet.

All jobs where humans are using computers are at risk of automation or semi-automation using ai.Bots to do whatever the humans were doing on the computer.  Reports, summaries, graphs, analysis, art, text, memos, emails, marketing - probabilistic analysis of alternative decision options. 

Physical robots are a bit behind, and far more expensive than, software ai Bots.

But for evolution of humanity, best book to read is:
The Goodness Paradox, by Richard Wrangham.
How humans are both the least reactively violent, but also the most efficient proactively violent species.
see https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/did-capital-punishment-create-morality     
&quot;Did Capital Punishment Create Morality?
A new book argues that violence—specifically, the killing of alpha males—laid the foundation for virtue.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I took the coursera class on machine learning (by Andrew Ng), we used Matlab a bit.  It was a bit too hard for me to solve easily while working (and playing Dad, Husband, plus some computer games), so I got help solving many of the problems and &#8220;doing&#8221; Matlab rather than really using it.</p>
<p>Today a lot more data scientists &amp; engineers are using R, but there are also a whole lot more of them; not sure of ratios.</p>
<p>cohere.ai has more intro stuff for the LLMs which are going to be the big new thing &#8211; and change business more than the internet.</p>
<p>All jobs where humans are using computers are at risk of automation or semi-automation using ai.Bots to do whatever the humans were doing on the computer.  Reports, summaries, graphs, analysis, art, text, memos, emails, marketing &#8211; probabilistic analysis of alternative decision options. </p>
<p>Physical robots are a bit behind, and far more expensive than, software ai Bots.</p>
<p>But for evolution of humanity, best book to read is:<br />
The Goodness Paradox, by Richard Wrangham.<br />
How humans are both the least reactively violent, but also the most efficient proactively violent species.<br />
see <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/did-capital-punishment-create-morality" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/did-capital-punishment-create-morality</a><br />
&#8220;Did Capital Punishment Create Morality?<br />
A new book argues that violence—specifically, the killing of alpha males—laid the foundation for virtue.&#8221;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2023 04:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Matlab

TommyJay:

UNM&#039;s one legitimate claim to fame!

Mosler. Cleve Mosler. 

The professor who put Matlab together to give UNM students access to the Fortran math libraries without writing Fortran.

But capital-f, he had a degree from CalTech, a Ph.d from Stanford and he worked at JPL before he came to UNM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Matlab</p>
<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>UNM&#8217;s one legitimate claim to fame!</p>
<p>Mosler. Cleve Mosler. </p>
<p>The professor who put Matlab together to give UNM students access to the Fortran math libraries without writing Fortran.</p>
<p>But capital-f, he had a degree from CalTech, a Ph.d from Stanford and he worked at JPL before he came to UNM.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 07:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dangerous. Ha.

No, never used a GOTO. I was trained jn structured programming from the start. And you can do that in ANSI C with discipline.

But dealing with complex numbers systems was a real pain without something like Fortran back when. I think APL did, but that was hideous. Most of my colllegues defaulted to Matlab in later years. Wimps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dangerous. Ha.</p>
<p>No, never used a GOTO. I was trained jn structured programming from the start. And you can do that in ANSI C with discipline.</p>
<p>But dealing with complex numbers systems was a real pain without something like Fortran back when. I think APL did, but that was hideous. Most of my colllegues defaulted to Matlab in later years. Wimps.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 03:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay:

Thanks. Fascinating. I doubt I&#039;ll get to analysis in this lifetime.

Ah, C. When men were men and a pointer was a pointer -- simple, direct and dangerous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>Thanks. Fascinating. I doubt I&#8217;ll get to analysis in this lifetime.</p>
<p>Ah, C. When men were men and a pointer was a pointer &#8212; simple, direct and dangerous.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/02/open-thread-3-2-23/#comment-2669533</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 23:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ TommyJay - did you ever have this t-shirt, popular with the computer geeks of my college days&quot; 
&quot;FORTRAN jock - I speak in GOTOs&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TommyJay &#8211; did you ever have this t-shirt, popular with the computer geeks of my college days&#8221;<br />
&#8220;FORTRAN jock &#8211; I speak in GOTOs&#8221;</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 22:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;complex math&quot; = complex analysis with imaginary number system.  To be unambiguous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;complex math&#8221; = complex analysis with imaginary number system.  To be unambiguous.</p>
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		By: TommyJay		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 22:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,
Forgot to check back.

Fortran in various versions in the early days.  I went through a variety of less common languages until I settled on ANSI C.  Had to write various math functionality that wasn&#039;t included therein.  The big pain was complex math. Eventually almost everything I did required it.

Then of course, C++ with the standard math lib., which was really nice.  The object oriented paradigm with the mess of classes was my undoing.  A variety of things cropped up in my life, not the least of which was I was becoming an older dog struggling with the new tricks.

Physics prof.  Bailed out early. Now a retired amateur investor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,<br />
Forgot to check back.</p>
<p>Fortran in various versions in the early days.  I went through a variety of less common languages until I settled on ANSI C.  Had to write various math functionality that wasn&#8217;t included therein.  The big pain was complex math. Eventually almost everything I did required it.</p>
<p>Then of course, C++ with the standard math lib., which was really nice.  The object oriented paradigm with the mess of classes was my undoing.  A variety of things cropped up in my life, not the least of which was I was becoming an older dog struggling with the new tricks.</p>
<p>Physics prof.  Bailed out early. Now a retired amateur investor.</p>
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		By: Mike Plaiss		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/03/02/open-thread-3-2-23/#comment-2669458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Plaiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all the recommendations. All sound interesting and will go on my reading list, which grows and grows.

Can’t believe that Gamow wrote a book about a subject that interests me greatly and I wasn’t aware of it. He’s great. If you have a youngster showing STEM proclivities get them a copy of “One Two Three…Infinity” it could change their life - that kind of book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the recommendations. All sound interesting and will go on my reading list, which grows and grows.</p>
<p>Can’t believe that Gamow wrote a book about a subject that interests me greatly and I wasn’t aware of it. He’s great. If you have a youngster showing STEM proclivities get them a copy of “One Two Three…Infinity” it could change their life &#8211; that kind of book.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 03:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay:

I remember when math coprocessors were cool! Likewise your computations. How were you programming your math problems?

Also, sorry if I forgot, but what do you do for a living?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>I remember when math coprocessors were cool! Likewise your computations. How were you programming your math problems?</p>
<p>Also, sorry if I forgot, but what do you do for a living?</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 03:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Skip on March 2, 2023 at 3:10 pm:
Well, beavers build dams with sticks, of course, but dogs play with sticks, and the squirrels in the tree outside my window are happily running up and down branches, otherwise known as &quot;pre-sticks&quot;. 

And all three groups have a great deal of stick-to-it-tiveness in what they do. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skip on March 2, 2023 at 3:10 pm:<br />
Well, beavers build dams with sticks, of course, but dogs play with sticks, and the squirrels in the tree outside my window are happily running up and down branches, otherwise known as &#8220;pre-sticks&#8221;. </p>
<p>And all three groups have a great deal of stick-to-it-tiveness in what they do. 🙂</p>
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