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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 05:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley on February 6, 2023 at 8:27 pm said:
&quot;The YouTube reminded me of a problem I find with current video — too dark. So dark, at times the action is near-unintelligible.&quot;

Ira on February 6, 2023 at 3:16 pm said:
&quot;Often when I rewind to read the dialog I couldn’t decipher, neither could the closed captioning.&quot;

David Foster on February 6, 2023 at 3:37 pm said:
&quot;There are subtitles that are just plain unreadable…white lettering against a snow background, for instance.&quot;

So what happens when you can&#039;t hear the actors, AND can&#039;t see the actors, AND the subtitles are also unintelligible?
Which has been known to happen, I assure you.

Kate on February 6, 2023 at 5:29 pm said:
&quot;There is a solution to all these problems which will not appeal to those here with various sound systems. Don’t stream videos, and don’t watch.&quot;

Read a book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley on February 6, 2023 at 8:27 pm said:<br />
&#8220;The YouTube reminded me of a problem I find with current video — too dark. So dark, at times the action is near-unintelligible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ira on February 6, 2023 at 3:16 pm said:<br />
&#8220;Often when I rewind to read the dialog I couldn’t decipher, neither could the closed captioning.&#8221;</p>
<p>David Foster on February 6, 2023 at 3:37 pm said:<br />
&#8220;There are subtitles that are just plain unreadable…white lettering against a snow background, for instance.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what happens when you can&#8217;t hear the actors, AND can&#8217;t see the actors, AND the subtitles are also unintelligible?<br />
Which has been known to happen, I assure you.</p>
<p>Kate on February 6, 2023 at 5:29 pm said:<br />
&#8220;There is a solution to all these problems which will not appeal to those here with various sound systems. Don’t stream videos, and don’t watch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read a book.</p>
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		By: IrishOtter49 (Roughcoat)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OBloodyHell,

Not a fan of Hoffman. But Oldham: yes indeed.

See if you can find a copy of the film/video made of Burton&#039;s stage performance of Hamlet. Incredible.

I thought Dunkirk was great. Very moving, inspirational -- and innovative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBloodyHell,</p>
<p>Not a fan of Hoffman. But Oldham: yes indeed.</p>
<p>See if you can find a copy of the film/video made of Burton&#8217;s stage performance of Hamlet. Incredible.</p>
<p>I thought Dunkirk was great. Very moving, inspirational &#8212; and innovative.</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 14:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Has Google Translate developed an application to understand what Pete Davidson is saying?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m waiting for Google Translate to come up with an app that can actually translate what woke idiots are thinking they are saying, as opposed to what they are saying.

P.S., Think what you might about Paul Joseph Watson, but this piece about ChatGPT is spot on about a future issue with &quot;AI&quot; (which translation is a partial function of):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWzprRWPI68]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Has Google Translate developed an application to understand what Pete Davidson is saying?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting for Google Translate to come up with an app that can actually translate what woke idiots are thinking they are saying, as opposed to what they are saying.</p>
<p>P.S., Think what you might about Paul Joseph Watson, but this piece about ChatGPT is spot on about a future issue with &#8220;AI&#8221; (which translation is a partial function of):</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWzprRWPI68" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWzprRWPI68</a></p>
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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/02/06/open-thread-2-6-23/#comment-2665329</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IrishOtter: &lt;i&gt;Richard Burton had a marvelous — and audible, comprehensible — speaking voice. In all of his movies he spoke so clearly, enunciated with such precision, you never had any doubt as to what he was saying. And the tone and timbre of his voice was mesmerizing.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, that&#039;s not really fair. Burton is certainly the best actor of his time period (50s-70s) and one of the best actors ever, beyond a doubt. 

He and Taylor are fantastic in &quot;Who&#039;s Afraid of Virginia Woolf&quot; -- mind you, it&#039;s a very very mean-spirited and unpleasant movie, but it is worth seeing just for the performance. You may never ever want to watch it again, but you should see it just for that.

One of his other tour-de-forces is &quot;Equus&quot;. The pain in his voice as he talks of his envy of the problem child is amazing.

The only other two people who come to mind as a possible equal are Dustin Hoffman and Gary Oldman. And Oldman is the only one who might be better (hard to tell, Oldman might be &quot;better&quot; due to the better writing and film techniques during his career)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IrishOtter: <i>Richard Burton had a marvelous — and audible, comprehensible — speaking voice. In all of his movies he spoke so clearly, enunciated with such precision, you never had any doubt as to what he was saying. And the tone and timbre of his voice was mesmerizing.</i></p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s not really fair. Burton is certainly the best actor of his time period (50s-70s) and one of the best actors ever, beyond a doubt. </p>
<p>He and Taylor are fantastic in &#8220;Who&#8217;s Afraid of Virginia Woolf&#8221; &#8212; mind you, it&#8217;s a very very mean-spirited and unpleasant movie, but it is worth seeing just for the performance. You may never ever want to watch it again, but you should see it just for that.</p>
<p>One of his other tour-de-forces is &#8220;Equus&#8221;. The pain in his voice as he talks of his envy of the problem child is amazing.</p>
<p>The only other two people who come to mind as a possible equal are Dustin Hoffman and Gary Oldman. And Oldman is the only one who might be better (hard to tell, Oldman might be &#8220;better&#8221; due to the better writing and film techniques during his career)</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 14:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has Google Translate developed an application to understand what Pete Davidson is saying?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Google Translate developed an application to understand what Pete Davidson is saying?</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/02/06/open-thread-2-6-23/#comment-2665315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 08:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a sad note, &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/goddeketal/status/1621487158619000832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;internationally renowned virologist, Dr Oveta Fuller, RIP.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a sad note, <a href="https://twitter.com/goddeketal/status/1621487158619000832" rel="nofollow ugc">internationally renowned virologist, Dr Oveta Fuller, RIP.</a></p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/02/06/open-thread-2-6-23/#comment-2665311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee Also:

If you followed the link I gave &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/02/06/open-thread-2-6-23/#comment-2665237&quot;&gt;in this comment of mine&lt;/a&gt;, you&#039;d see my discussion of Sinatra and Levene doing the song &quot;Sue Me,&quot; with illustrative videos.  &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/05/04/so-nu-so-sue-me/&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s the link again&lt;/a&gt;. Levene was great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Also:</p>
<p>If you followed the link I gave <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/02/06/open-thread-2-6-23/#comment-2665237">in this comment of mine</a>, you&#8217;d see my discussion of Sinatra and Levene doing the song &#8220;Sue Me,&#8221; with illustrative videos.  <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/05/04/so-nu-so-sue-me/">Here&#8217;s the link again</a>. Levene was great.</p>
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		By: Eeyore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eeyore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or, 4, don&#039;t spend a dime on the crappy movies. I hated Dunkirk, and I&#039;m its natural audience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, 4, don&#8217;t spend a dime on the crappy movies. I hated Dunkirk, and I&#8217;m its natural audience.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 01:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My language learning quest led me to Steve Kaufmann, a polyglot who has been studying languages for fifty years, learned 20 languages with varying degrees of fluency, and has started Linq, an online language learning site based on his personal techniques.
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&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;The best way to learn a language is to massively ingest it, by listening and reading.&lt;/b&gt; Listening and reading are so powerful. If you can read the books, you know the language. To get to know a language takes a lot of time and a lot of interacting with it – and a lot of that time has to be on your own. &lt;b&gt;I think it’s better to work on comprehension and vocabulary without pressure to reproduce the language (by speaking).&lt;/b&gt;

—Steve Kaufmann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kaufmann]&lt;/i&gt;
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Obviously Kaufmann is right up my alley. I wouldn&#039;t claim his approach is the best, but it has worked for him. Since my focus too is on listening and reading without sweating the grammar, I&#039;ll take his work as validation of what I&#039;m doing.

Plus the overarching principle Kaufmann advocates is to do what you enjoy doing as you learn a language.

That has always been obvious to me. Once I got past readin&#039;, writin&#039;, and &#039;rithmetic in school, I mostly learned by getting super-motivated then massively immersing myself in a subject without waiting for a teacher or textbook to chop it up into bite-size chunks and serve it up in some particular order.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My language learning quest led me to Steve Kaufmann, a polyglot who has been studying languages for fifty years, learned 20 languages with varying degrees of fluency, and has started Linq, an online language learning site based on his personal techniques.<br />
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<p><i><b>The best way to learn a language is to massively ingest it, by listening and reading.</b> Listening and reading are so powerful. If you can read the books, you know the language. To get to know a language takes a lot of time and a lot of interacting with it – and a lot of that time has to be on your own. <b>I think it’s better to work on comprehension and vocabulary without pressure to reproduce the language (by speaking).</b></p>
<p>—Steve Kaufmann<br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kaufmann%5D" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kaufmann%5D</a></i><br />
____________________________________</p>
<p>Obviously Kaufmann is right up my alley. I wouldn&#8217;t claim his approach is the best, but it has worked for him. Since my focus too is on listening and reading without sweating the grammar, I&#8217;ll take his work as validation of what I&#8217;m doing.</p>
<p>Plus the overarching principle Kaufmann advocates is to do what you enjoy doing as you learn a language.</p>
<p>That has always been obvious to me. Once I got past readin&#8217;, writin&#8217;, and &#8216;rithmetic in school, I mostly learned by getting super-motivated then massively immersing myself in a subject without waiting for a teacher or textbook to chop it up into bite-size chunks and serve it up in some particular order.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/02/06/open-thread-2-6-23/#comment-2665293</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 01:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The YouTube reminded me of a problem I find with current video -- too dark. So dark, at times the action is near-unintelligible. 

IMO it&#039;s a result of current tech. With digital they can film in dim light without lighting, so they do. It&#039;s cheaper and can be called &quot;edgy,&quot; so they do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The YouTube reminded me of a problem I find with current video &#8212; too dark. So dark, at times the action is near-unintelligible. </p>
<p>IMO it&#8217;s a result of current tech. With digital they can film in dim light without lighting, so they do. It&#8217;s cheaper and can be called &#8220;edgy,&#8221; so they do.</p>
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