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		By: OBloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Sad Dog Diary&lt;/b&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sad Dog Diary</b><br />
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 01:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deploying offensive weapons ......

Otay geniuses, are inflatable tanks offensive, or &quot;Nerf&quot; tanks?  

To this astounding genius, Ukraine should have decided to join the Russian Federation when they surrendered their Soviet era nuclear weapons, since any resistance by Ukraine could be viewed as offensive to The Russian Federation.

Is Ukraine planning to advance beyond their internationally recognized borders and roll towards Moscow or the Caspian Sea?

Roosia wants, and the geniuses agree.  Not only is resistance futile, it is offensive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deploying offensive weapons &#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Otay geniuses, are inflatable tanks offensive, or &#8220;Nerf&#8221; tanks?  </p>
<p>To this astounding genius, Ukraine should have decided to join the Russian Federation when they surrendered their Soviet era nuclear weapons, since any resistance by Ukraine could be viewed as offensive to The Russian Federation.</p>
<p>Is Ukraine planning to advance beyond their internationally recognized borders and roll towards Moscow or the Caspian Sea?</p>
<p>Roosia wants, and the geniuses agree.  Not only is resistance futile, it is offensive.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They invented the black ledger out of whole cloth and covered up hunters china ukraine albania kazakh ties which overlap with mr mcgonical]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They invented the black ledger out of whole cloth and covered up hunters china ukraine albania kazakh ties which overlap with mr mcgonical</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well remember our patented nuclear expert (i&#039;m dying here)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well remember our patented nuclear expert (i&#8217;m dying here)</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/28/open-thread-1-28-23/#comment-2663963</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Common sense, but these are strange times:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/repthomasmassie/status/1619771614966747136&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;@RepThomasMassie&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Deploying offensive weapons against a nuclear power is a terrible idea.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense, but these are strange times:</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/repthomasmassie/status/1619771614966747136" rel="nofollow ugc">@RepThomasMassie</a>: <b><i>Deploying offensive weapons against a nuclear power is a terrible idea.</i></b></p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This regime is at war with us, see the whole hamilton 68 fraud which was a way for them to seize powrt

 why do you want to give them an opportunity they care about the ukrainian people shirley]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This regime is at war with us, see the whole hamilton 68 fraud which was a way for them to seize powrt</p>
<p> why do you want to give them an opportunity they care about the ukrainian people shirley</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/28/open-thread-1-28-23/#comment-2663951</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 23:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bunge:

Proxie, Moxie, and Cottontail are calling you from their burrow.

You think that the Ukrainians might a bit better calibration of the risks and rewards for F-16s, MIG 29s, or other 4th generation jets?  You think they may have valid reasons (Holodomor) not to submit to your man Vlad?

Change your shorts and find a spine.

And by the way, you have some homework, today&#039;s &lt;b&gt;Perun&lt;/b&gt;, linked above, is a start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunge:</p>
<p>Proxie, Moxie, and Cottontail are calling you from their burrow.</p>
<p>You think that the Ukrainians might a bit better calibration of the risks and rewards for F-16s, MIG 29s, or other 4th generation jets?  You think they may have valid reasons (Holodomor) not to submit to your man Vlad?</p>
<p>Change your shorts and find a spine.</p>
<p>And by the way, you have some homework, today&#8217;s <b>Perun</b>, linked above, is a start.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 22:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Related...
A boy and his dog:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1426473934153944]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related&#8230;<br />
A boy and his dog:<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1426473934153944" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1426473934153944</a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry MBunge! Biden&#039;s on top of things....and he&#039;s given &quot;us&quot; his &quot;word as a Biden&quot;(!)...
&quot;Biden slammed after giving his &#039;word as a Biden&#039; that America&#039;s future looks great...&quot;---
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-slammed-giving-word-biden-americas-future-looks-great-screwed
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Actually, it seems to me that one doesn&#039;t have to worry about Kyiv all that much---at least as far as nukes are concerned---simply because what we&#039;re watching is carefully orchestrated theater. (This is small solace to those Ukrainians whose lives have been destroyed, to be sure.)
But &quot;Biden&quot; most certainly NEEDS this crisis---to hide all the other ones he&#039;s been so artfully crafting; IOW so that &quot;he&quot; can blame the war, i.e., blame Putin, for the war and lots of other things besides (inflation, energy shortages, supply chain failures, blaming Republicans for &quot;BACKING&quot; PUTIN, etc.) thereby COVERING UP &quot;his&quot; own overarching goal of emasculating/transforming the US while also---FINALLY---completing Obama&#039;s stalled initiative/policy/ideologically-driven dream of transforming---there&#039;s that word again---the Middle East (i.e., cutting Israel down to size...that would be, if &quot;he&quot; doesn&#039;t succeed in obliterating it entirely...while---never forgetting the Great Man&#039;s twisted sense of humor---pinning all the blame for such an eventuality on Israel itself...).

After all, &quot;Biden&quot; NEEDS crises. To accomplish all of these visionary goals(!), he needs concealment, coverup, confusion, hysteria, a smokescreen, white phosphorous...call it &quot;Maximum BS&quot;.

But there MUST BE other reasons why &quot;he&quot; needs this war and this is less clear. 
Is &quot;he&quot; being blackmailed? Does Ukraine know something that Biden (and &quot;Biden&quot;) do not want to be revealed (since if revealed, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down)? At least revealed NOT YET; that is not before &quot;he&quot; has achieved all, or most of, &quot;his&quot; goals. OTOH, IF Ukraine is in the position of blackmailer---i.e., IF---it CANNOT &quot;play&quot; this Ace for as long as it continues to need &quot;Biden&quot;&#039;s backing, which factor (if it is a factor) gives &quot;Biden&quot; a lot more flexibility and room to maneuver than he might otherwise have....

Can the same questions be asked of Putin? After all, if &quot;Biden&quot; is enabling Ukraine to continue the war (of resistance), &quot;he&quot; is also NOT PREVENTING Putin from continuing to wage its war of conquest. (Note, interestingly---it seems to me, though I may be wrong on this point---that Putin has not criticized the US with the same venom that he&#039;s been attacking Europe...though this recent F-16 &quot;issue&quot; may have changed that significantly. MAY HAVE.
If all this conjecture is at all accurate, then it raises question, What does &quot;Biden&quot; need from Putin? (or expressed in another way, perhaps, What does Putin HAVE on &quot;Biden&quot;?) We know that &quot;Biden&quot; needed Russia WRT the &quot;negotiations&quot; with Iran. Does &quot;he&quot; still? Does &quot;he&quot; also need Putin&#039;s support in &quot;his&quot; goal to betray Israel? (Or as &quot;he&quot; might put it, &quot;Liberate our closest Mid-East ally from existence&quot;?)
It also raises the question, What&#039;s in it FOR Putin? I&#039;m not sure what the answer might be here except---PERHAPS---&quot;Biden&quot;&#039;s &quot;promise&quot; that when &quot;Biden&quot; no longer needs Ukraine to remain silent, or no longer cares about being blackmailed, assuming that the blackmail card is real), then Putin can go full bore on the offensive. In the meantime, more glorious CRISIS!

WRT the Mullahs, we know that &quot;Biden&quot; has been supporting the Mullahs financially---AND MORALLY---and that the money &quot;Biden&quot; has gifted to Iran has been used to, among other things (e.g., arming Hezbullah, arming the Houthi, arming whom else? enabling Iran&#039;s and Hezbullah&#039;s extensive spread in Central and South America...) PROVIDE WEAPONS to Putin.
We know that Zelenskyy must also know this, but as mentioned above, Zelenskyy has his own delicate tightrope to walk.
There&#039;s also the China angle at play here, and Xi MUST be watching &quot;Biden&quot;&#039;s balancing act very closely. China may(!) also have an interest in a weakened West (at least weakened militarily) and as we have heard Klaus Schwab believes that Communist China is a model to be followed.
Does this mean that it is in China&#039;s interest the WTF succeeds in its nefarious megalomanic goals? Might China---the land of &quot;GO&quot;---then be able to benefit from a weakened West (if all goes more or less to plan)?

We know that &quot;Biden&quot; still needs crisis and chaos.
We also know that the WTF requires it (for its own, if related purposes of creating mayhem in the West so as to reduce the West&#039;s will, its morale and its ability to resist the WTF own megalomanic, overarching plan, AKA &quot;The Great Reset&quot;).

So I don&#039;t think nuclear war---even limited---is in the cards. (To be sure, who am I!).
It could happen, unintentionally, certainly.
(That would be small solace, wouldn&#039;t it?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry MBunge! Biden&#8217;s on top of things&#8230;.and he&#8217;s given &#8220;us&#8221; his &#8220;word as a Biden&#8221;(!)&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Biden slammed after giving his &#8216;word as a Biden&#8217; that America&#8217;s future looks great&#8230;&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-slammed-giving-word-biden-americas-future-looks-great-screwed" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-slammed-giving-word-biden-americas-future-looks-great-screwed</a><br />
&#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; &#8211;<br />
Actually, it seems to me that one doesn&#8217;t have to worry about Kyiv all that much&#8212;at least as far as nukes are concerned&#8212;simply because what we&#8217;re watching is carefully orchestrated theater. (This is small solace to those Ukrainians whose lives have been destroyed, to be sure.)<br />
But &#8220;Biden&#8221; most certainly NEEDS this crisis&#8212;to hide all the other ones he&#8217;s been so artfully crafting; IOW so that &#8220;he&#8221; can blame the war, i.e., blame Putin, for the war and lots of other things besides (inflation, energy shortages, supply chain failures, blaming Republicans for &#8220;BACKING&#8221; PUTIN, etc.) thereby COVERING UP &#8220;his&#8221; own overarching goal of emasculating/transforming the US while also&#8212;FINALLY&#8212;completing Obama&#8217;s stalled initiative/policy/ideologically-driven dream of transforming&#8212;there&#8217;s that word again&#8212;the Middle East (i.e., cutting Israel down to size&#8230;that would be, if &#8220;he&#8221; doesn&#8217;t succeed in obliterating it entirely&#8230;while&#8212;never forgetting the Great Man&#8217;s twisted sense of humor&#8212;pinning all the blame for such an eventuality on Israel itself&#8230;).</p>
<p>After all, &#8220;Biden&#8221; NEEDS crises. To accomplish all of these visionary goals(!), he needs concealment, coverup, confusion, hysteria, a smokescreen, white phosphorous&#8230;call it &#8220;Maximum BS&#8221;.</p>
<p>But there MUST BE other reasons why &#8220;he&#8221; needs this war and this is less clear.<br />
Is &#8220;he&#8221; being blackmailed? Does Ukraine know something that Biden (and &#8220;Biden&#8221;) do not want to be revealed (since if revealed, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down)? At least revealed NOT YET; that is not before &#8220;he&#8221; has achieved all, or most of, &#8220;his&#8221; goals. OTOH, IF Ukraine is in the position of blackmailer&#8212;i.e., IF&#8212;it CANNOT &#8220;play&#8221; this Ace for as long as it continues to need &#8220;Biden&#8221;&#8216;s backing, which factor (if it is a factor) gives &#8220;Biden&#8221; a lot more flexibility and room to maneuver than he might otherwise have&#8230;.</p>
<p>Can the same questions be asked of Putin? After all, if &#8220;Biden&#8221; is enabling Ukraine to continue the war (of resistance), &#8220;he&#8221; is also NOT PREVENTING Putin from continuing to wage its war of conquest. (Note, interestingly&#8212;it seems to me, though I may be wrong on this point&#8212;that Putin has not criticized the US with the same venom that he&#8217;s been attacking Europe&#8230;though this recent F-16 &#8220;issue&#8221; may have changed that significantly. MAY HAVE.<br />
If all this conjecture is at all accurate, then it raises question, What does &#8220;Biden&#8221; need from Putin? (or expressed in another way, perhaps, What does Putin HAVE on &#8220;Biden&#8221;?) We know that &#8220;Biden&#8221; needed Russia WRT the &#8220;negotiations&#8221; with Iran. Does &#8220;he&#8221; still? Does &#8220;he&#8221; also need Putin&#8217;s support in &#8220;his&#8221; goal to betray Israel? (Or as &#8220;he&#8221; might put it, &#8220;Liberate our closest Mid-East ally from existence&#8221;?)<br />
It also raises the question, What&#8217;s in it FOR Putin? I&#8217;m not sure what the answer might be here except&#8212;PERHAPS&#8212;&#8220;Biden&#8221;&#8216;s &#8220;promise&#8221; that when &#8220;Biden&#8221; no longer needs Ukraine to remain silent, or no longer cares about being blackmailed, assuming that the blackmail card is real), then Putin can go full bore on the offensive. In the meantime, more glorious CRISIS!</p>
<p>WRT the Mullahs, we know that &#8220;Biden&#8221; has been supporting the Mullahs financially&#8212;AND MORALLY&#8212;and that the money &#8220;Biden&#8221; has gifted to Iran has been used to, among other things (e.g., arming Hezbullah, arming the Houthi, arming whom else? enabling Iran&#8217;s and Hezbullah&#8217;s extensive spread in Central and South America&#8230;) PROVIDE WEAPONS to Putin.<br />
We know that Zelenskyy must also know this, but as mentioned above, Zelenskyy has his own delicate tightrope to walk.<br />
There&#8217;s also the China angle at play here, and Xi MUST be watching &#8220;Biden&#8221;&#8216;s balancing act very closely. China may(!) also have an interest in a weakened West (at least weakened militarily) and as we have heard Klaus Schwab believes that Communist China is a model to be followed.<br />
Does this mean that it is in China&#8217;s interest the WTF succeeds in its nefarious megalomanic goals? Might China&#8212;the land of &#8220;GO&#8221;&#8212;then be able to benefit from a weakened West (if all goes more or less to plan)?</p>
<p>We know that &#8220;Biden&#8221; still needs crisis and chaos.<br />
We also know that the WTF requires it (for its own, if related purposes of creating mayhem in the West so as to reduce the West&#8217;s will, its morale and its ability to resist the WTF own megalomanic, overarching plan, AKA &#8220;The Great Reset&#8221;).</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t think nuclear war&#8212;even limited&#8212;is in the cards. (To be sure, who am I!).<br />
It could happen, unintentionally, certainly.<br />
(That would be small solace, wouldn&#8217;t it?)</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 20:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/RickyDoggin/status/1619725841277280256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;It&#039;s a bitter reality&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;You hear that?? Ukraine is the number one priority. Not gas prices, not 7+% inflation, not spikes in violent crime, not the 20,000 illegals per day at the Border, not soaring food prices... it’s Ukraine. Ukraine. Not you, not your family, not your pocket.

Our Government hates us&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/RickyDoggin/status/1619725841277280256" rel="nofollow ugc">It&#8217;s a bitter reality</a>:</p>
<p><i>You hear that?? Ukraine is the number one priority. Not gas prices, not 7+% inflation, not spikes in violent crime, not the 20,000 illegals per day at the Border, not soaring food prices&#8230; it’s Ukraine. Ukraine. Not you, not your family, not your pocket.</p>
<p>Our Government hates us</i></p>
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