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	Comments on: And then there&#8217;s the new Martin Luther King statue in Boston	</title>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[or that horrible baalenciaga campaign, honestly everyone involved should have been cancelled,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or that horrible baalenciaga campaign, honestly everyone involved should have been cancelled,</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Supposedly it cost $10m.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly it cost $10m.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/16/and-then-theres-the-new-martin-luther-king-statue-in-boston/#comment-2662312</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not too long ago, 2015, a British climate change group put a commercial on television which showed *schoolchildren* being blown up in great gouts of red blood. 

https://www.foxnews.com/science/school-children-blown-up-for-not-fighting-climate-change-in-controversial-ad

Graphic. Horrible. And widely denounced, even by some climate change advocates.

Yet that commercial went through the whole creative cycle of writing, rehearsing, filming, editing and reshooting as necessary with dozens of people involved. 

No one raised their hand and asked, &quot;Um...is it really a good idea to kill children graphically on television?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too long ago, 2015, a British climate change group put a commercial on television which showed *schoolchildren* being blown up in great gouts of red blood. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/science/school-children-blown-up-for-not-fighting-climate-change-in-controversial-ad" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.foxnews.com/science/school-children-blown-up-for-not-fighting-climate-change-in-controversial-ad</a></p>
<p>Graphic. Horrible. And widely denounced, even by some climate change advocates.</p>
<p>Yet that commercial went through the whole creative cycle of writing, rehearsing, filming, editing and reshooting as necessary with dozens of people involved. </p>
<p>No one raised their hand and asked, &#8220;Um&#8230;is it really a good idea to kill children graphically on television?&#8221;</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/16/and-then-theres-the-new-martin-luther-king-statue-in-boston/#comment-2662311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 22:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think there were a few layers to it. 

There were those who got the &quot;joke&quot; and were pleased with it. 
There were those who got the &quot;joke&quot; and were too afraid to complain.
There were those who didn&#039;t get the joke and were dazzled by the credentials of the others.
There were those who were too busy to bother figuring anything out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there were a few layers to it. </p>
<p>There were those who got the &#8220;joke&#8221; and were pleased with it.<br />
There were those who got the &#8220;joke&#8221; and were too afraid to complain.<br />
There were those who didn&#8217;t get the joke and were dazzled by the credentials of the others.<br />
There were those who were too busy to bother figuring anything out.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/16/and-then-theres-the-new-martin-luther-king-statue-in-boston/#comment-2662308</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Esther:

Most (not all, but most) of King&#039;s descendants apparently approved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esther:</p>
<p>Most (not all, but most) of King&#8217;s descendants apparently approved.</p>
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		By: Esther		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/16/and-then-theres-the-new-martin-luther-king-statue-in-boston/#comment-2662295</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Esther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A public art sculpture would normally go through many rounds of approvals, a process entailing loads of sketches and scale models, not to mention grant proposals. 

Then there is the great cost and the many stages of fabrication at a foundry. It’s not like an artist whittles tons of bronze and everyone is surprised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A public art sculpture would normally go through many rounds of approvals, a process entailing loads of sketches and scale models, not to mention grant proposals. </p>
<p>Then there is the great cost and the many stages of fabrication at a foundry. It’s not like an artist whittles tons of bronze and everyone is surprised.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 19:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; if the artist is indeed not a trained sculptor: a sculptor would have realized that sculpture is a three-dimensional art that has to be viewed from different angles. --Abraxas&lt;/i&gt;

Willis is not a sculptor. He is a conceptual artist and photographer, specializing in black racial statements. I assume he had others doing the sculpture part under his guidance.

I believe he knew exactly what he was doing. This is not an &quot;Oops! We never thought someone would look at it from those angles.&quot;

If viewers are outraged or repulsed or upset, that&#039;s what Willis had in mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> if the artist is indeed not a trained sculptor: a sculptor would have realized that sculpture is a three-dimensional art that has to be viewed from different angles. &#8211;Abraxas</i></p>
<p>Willis is not a sculptor. He is a conceptual artist and photographer, specializing in black racial statements. I assume he had others doing the sculpture part under his guidance.</p>
<p>I believe he knew exactly what he was doing. This is not an &#8220;Oops! We never thought someone would look at it from those angles.&#8221;</p>
<p>If viewers are outraged or repulsed or upset, that&#8217;s what Willis had in mind.</p>
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		By: Abraxas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraxas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 19:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;front&quot; of the sculpture with Martin&#039;s hands on Coretta&#039;s back is pretty clearly what it&#039;s intended to be.  It&#039;s the &quot;back&quot; of the memorial that&#039;s the problem, and sculptures like this aren&#039;t supposed to have a &quot;front&quot; and a &quot;back.&quot; It wouldn&#039;t be surprising if the artist is indeed not a trained sculptor: a sculptor would have realized that sculpture is a three-dimensional art that has to be viewed from different angles.  

I&#039;m not going to say that all modern sculpture and modern architecture are bunk or junk, but much writing about aesthetics is airy and vague and meaningless. Faulting artists and aestheticians for not knowing what they&#039;re talking about or for not having anything to say is like faulting sociologists for repeating the obvious or jumping to the wrong conclusions or having a bad prose style.  At this point all those things are assumed.   If you&#039;re an artist, words aren&#039;t your forte, and if you&#039;re an aesthetician, you&#039;re trying to put experiences and processes which defy verbalization into words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;front&#8221; of the sculpture with Martin&#8217;s hands on Coretta&#8217;s back is pretty clearly what it&#8217;s intended to be.  It&#8217;s the &#8220;back&#8221; of the memorial that&#8217;s the problem, and sculptures like this aren&#8217;t supposed to have a &#8220;front&#8221; and a &#8220;back.&#8221; It wouldn&#8217;t be surprising if the artist is indeed not a trained sculptor: a sculptor would have realized that sculpture is a three-dimensional art that has to be viewed from different angles.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to say that all modern sculpture and modern architecture are bunk or junk, but much writing about aesthetics is airy and vague and meaningless. Faulting artists and aestheticians for not knowing what they&#8217;re talking about or for not having anything to say is like faulting sociologists for repeating the obvious or jumping to the wrong conclusions or having a bad prose style.  At this point all those things are assumed.   If you&#8217;re an artist, words aren&#8217;t your forte, and if you&#8217;re an aesthetician, you&#8217;re trying to put experiences and processes which defy verbalization into words.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JFM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 18:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’ve always believed that art exists to convey emotion in a way that other media can’t. The emotion I feel when looking at that thing is disgust. Is this the emotion that should be connected with MLK and his wife?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always believed that art exists to convey emotion in a way that other media can’t. The emotion I feel when looking at that thing is disgust. Is this the emotion that should be connected with MLK and his wife?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 17:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like representational art, but I am fussy about what is represented. Esther @11:56 a.m. has it: &quot;Dismembered.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like representational art, but I am fussy about what is represented. Esther @11:56 a.m. has it: &#8220;Dismembered.&#8221;</p>
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