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		By: Art Deco		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/04/the-conflict-in-the-house-continues/#comment-2660617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2023 12:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Perhaps because the U.S. Const. Article I Section 10 mandates that Congress be in the business of approving compacts, viz:&lt;/i&gt;

An irrelevant point.  The question posed to me was &quot;Why should Congress give this chance for graft and payoffs to favored contractors to the states?&quot;.  Now come up with a legitimate justification for Congress denying an application from Kentucky and Ohio to set up a bi-state authority.  


&lt;i&gt;Repeal the tolls prohibition and every blue state in the country will slap tolls on the Interstates, “for infrastructure projects only of course”&lt;/i&gt;

The purpose of tolls is to finance road maintenance by assessing people in their capacity as motorists using the highway rather than in their  capacity as general consumers, real property holders, or earners.  



A fairly straightforward scheme would be for the  federal government to institute tolls on all long-haul Interstates and distribute the proceeds to a dedicated fund in each of the 50 states.  The purpose of the dedicated fund would be to finance maintenance on the long-haul interstates running through the  state in question.  The formula of distribution would be according to the acres of macadam in each state on these Interstates.  The state legislature could top off the funds in question with discretionary appropriations and / or bond issues.  Maintenance on the short hauls could be financed with tolls imposed and collected by state governments.



&lt;i&gt;As for paying out of general revenues, let’s see you lead the charge for higher taxes for infrastructure in Kentucky and Ohio.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve never lived in either state and see no reason why their public works should be cross-subsidized by the other states.  You haven&#039;t given a reason, either.  All you do is sneer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps because the U.S. Const. Article I Section 10 mandates that Congress be in the business of approving compacts, viz:</i></p>
<p>An irrelevant point.  The question posed to me was &#8220;Why should Congress give this chance for graft and payoffs to favored contractors to the states?&#8221;.  Now come up with a legitimate justification for Congress denying an application from Kentucky and Ohio to set up a bi-state authority.  </p>
<p><i>Repeal the tolls prohibition and every blue state in the country will slap tolls on the Interstates, “for infrastructure projects only of course”</i></p>
<p>The purpose of tolls is to finance road maintenance by assessing people in their capacity as motorists using the highway rather than in their  capacity as general consumers, real property holders, or earners.  </p>
<p>A fairly straightforward scheme would be for the  federal government to institute tolls on all long-haul Interstates and distribute the proceeds to a dedicated fund in each of the 50 states.  The purpose of the dedicated fund would be to finance maintenance on the long-haul interstates running through the  state in question.  The formula of distribution would be according to the acres of macadam in each state on these Interstates.  The state legislature could top off the funds in question with discretionary appropriations and / or bond issues.  Maintenance on the short hauls could be financed with tolls imposed and collected by state governments.</p>
<p><i>As for paying out of general revenues, let’s see you lead the charge for higher taxes for infrastructure in Kentucky and Ohio.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never lived in either state and see no reason why their public works should be cross-subsidized by the other states.  You haven&#8217;t given a reason, either.  All you do is sneer.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2023 07:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ PA+Cat on January 4, 2023 at 11:44 pm said:
&quot;The Babylon Bee is on the case as usual&quot;

The Bee is on a roll today, in fact, beginning with the Shaman for Speaker post.

https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-approval-ratings-at-record-high-after-bringing-congress-to-grinding-halt

https://babylonbee.com/news/house-republicans-frantically-binge-old-schoolhouse-rock-episodes-to-figure-out-what-theyre-supposed-to-be-doing

(forgot to hit publish last night, but they are still good, and some new ones today)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ PA+Cat on January 4, 2023 at 11:44 pm said:<br />
&#8220;The Babylon Bee is on the case as usual&#8221;</p>
<p>The Bee is on a roll today, in fact, beginning with the Shaman for Speaker post.</p>
<p><a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-approval-ratings-at-record-high-after-bringing-congress-to-grinding-halt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-approval-ratings-at-record-high-after-bringing-congress-to-grinding-halt</a></p>
<p><a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/house-republicans-frantically-binge-old-schoolhouse-rock-episodes-to-figure-out-what-theyre-supposed-to-be-doing" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/house-republicans-frantically-binge-old-schoolhouse-rock-episodes-to-figure-out-what-theyre-supposed-to-be-doing</a></p>
<p>(forgot to hit publish last night, but they are still good, and some new ones today)</p>
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		By: Frederick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/04/the-conflict-in-the-house-continues/#comment-2660466</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Whoever is Speaker is going to have to cut deals with Schumer and the WH. Don’t these people realize how much worse those deals will be for the right if the Speaker can’t deliver 218 votes? &lt;/i&gt;

There it is, the hostage taking, rarely made so explicit. Vote for people who will give the Democrats what they want because if you don&#039;t the Democrats will get what they want?

The House GOP has an absolute veto on budgets and legislation--both need both Houses of Congress to pass. This is ridiculous. If they care about conservatism they know what they can do to stop anything the Dems want to do, except treaties and Supreme Court Justices. The majority of them simply don&#039;t and are super eager to &quot;cut deals&quot; that just so happen to benefit their friends, patrons and clients using our tax money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Whoever is Speaker is going to have to cut deals with Schumer and the WH. Don’t these people realize how much worse those deals will be for the right if the Speaker can’t deliver 218 votes? </i></p>
<p>There it is, the hostage taking, rarely made so explicit. Vote for people who will give the Democrats what they want because if you don&#8217;t the Democrats will get what they want?</p>
<p>The House GOP has an absolute veto on budgets and legislation&#8211;both need both Houses of Congress to pass. This is ridiculous. If they care about conservatism they know what they can do to stop anything the Dems want to do, except treaties and Supreme Court Justices. The majority of them simply don&#8217;t and are super eager to &#8220;cut deals&#8221; that just so happen to benefit their friends, patrons and clients using our tax money.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the problem they have cut too many deals with schumer, like the omnibus, which really was an exercise in humiliation, or the gun bill,  not effectively refuted the j6 narrative, not pushed hard off against the russian fraud,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem they have cut too many deals with schumer, like the omnibus, which really was an exercise in humiliation, or the gun bill,  not effectively refuted the j6 narrative, not pushed hard off against the russian fraud,</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I didn&#039;t say &quot;nobody likes him.&quot; But a fair number of Republicans aren&#039;t crazy about him, and that&#039;s been for years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;nobody likes him.&#8221; But a fair number of Republicans aren&#8217;t crazy about him, and that&#8217;s been for years.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2023/01/04/the-conflict-in-the-house-continues/#comment-2660439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite:

Agreed.

My most recent post on this &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/01/05/lets-have-a-little-house-speaker-gedankenexperiment/&quot;&gt;can be found here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite:</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>My most recent post on this <a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2023/01/05/lets-have-a-little-house-speaker-gedankenexperiment/">can be found here</a>.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate - The guy wouldn&#039;t have won 85% of the caucus vote if nobody likes him. 

Whoever is Speaker is going to have to cut deals with Schumer and the WH. Don&#039;t these people realize how much worse those deals will be for the right if the Speaker can&#039;t deliver 218 votes? Are these bomb throwers going to vote for the &quot;crap sandwiches&quot; sure to come if Scalise negotiates them instead of McCarthy? Are they assuming that someone other than McCarthy has super powers that will make Democrats forget the leverage they have from holding the Senate, the WH, and the press?

Call me cynical, but I think many of them do realize that and would rather have a scapegoat than a better deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate &#8211; The guy wouldn&#8217;t have won 85% of the caucus vote if nobody likes him. </p>
<p>Whoever is Speaker is going to have to cut deals with Schumer and the WH. Don&#8217;t these people realize how much worse those deals will be for the right if the Speaker can&#8217;t deliver 218 votes? Are these bomb throwers going to vote for the &#8220;crap sandwiches&#8221; sure to come if Scalise negotiates them instead of McCarthy? Are they assuming that someone other than McCarthy has super powers that will make Democrats forget the leverage they have from holding the Senate, the WH, and the press?</p>
<p>Call me cynical, but I think many of them do realize that and would rather have a scapegoat than a better deal.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Congressman Bob Good: https://mobile.twitter.com/RepBobGood/status/1610714849583169536?cxt=HHwWgIDQveWntNosAAAA

&lt;blockquote&gt; If only McCarthy had shown as much tenacity in fighting Democrats and protecting Americans in the last two years as he has in his four failed votes to be Speaker the past two days.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and 

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepBobGood/status/1610758752227168256?cxt=HHwWgMDQ1aGjyNosAAAA
&lt;blockquote&gt; It&#039;s just a matter of time until Kevin McCarthy finally realizes he doesn&#039;t have the 218 votes and he&#039;s not going to get 218 votes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congressman Bob Good: <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/RepBobGood/status/1610714849583169536?cxt=HHwWgIDQveWntNosAAAA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mobile.twitter.com/RepBobGood/status/1610714849583169536?cxt=HHwWgIDQveWntNosAAAA</a></p>
<blockquote><p> If only McCarthy had shown as much tenacity in fighting Democrats and protecting Americans in the last two years as he has in his four failed votes to be Speaker the past two days.</p></blockquote>
<p>and </p>
<p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/RepBobGood/status/1610758752227168256?cxt=HHwWgMDQ1aGjyNosAAAA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mobile.twitter.com/RepBobGood/status/1610758752227168256?cxt=HHwWgMDQ1aGjyNosAAAA</a></p>
<blockquote><p> It&#8217;s just a matter of time until Kevin McCarthy finally realizes he doesn&#8217;t have the 218 votes and he&#8217;s not going to get 218 votes.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They don&#039;t like McCarthy. A fair number of the people voting for him aren&#039;t crazy about him either. Who else wants the job? Donalds isn&#039;t running for it, not really. Does Scalise want it? Does anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t like McCarthy. A fair number of the people voting for him aren&#8217;t crazy about him either. Who else wants the job? Donalds isn&#8217;t running for it, not really. Does Scalise want it? Does anyone?</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2023 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So McCarthy makes significant concessions and then loses two more ballots, with no votes flipping. 

Do the 20 want something that McCarthy is still unwilling to give, or are the objections to McCarthy himself?

If it&#039;s the latter, it&#039;s pretty difficult to see this as anything other than a heckler&#039;s veto after McCarthy won 85% of the vote for caucus leadership.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So McCarthy makes significant concessions and then loses two more ballots, with no votes flipping. </p>
<p>Do the 20 want something that McCarthy is still unwilling to give, or are the objections to McCarthy himself?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s the latter, it&#8217;s pretty difficult to see this as anything other than a heckler&#8217;s veto after McCarthy won 85% of the vote for caucus leadership.</p>
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