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		By: Richard Cook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul-

Extraordinarily good comment!]]></description>
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<p>Extraordinarily good comment!</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659366</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2022 00:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Sharon W.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sharon W.</p>
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		By: David Foster		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sowell argues that American thought is dominated by a “prevailing vision” which seals itself off from any empirical evidence that is inconsistent with that vision.&quot;

Arthur Koestler, himself a former Communist, wrote about the nature of intellectually closed systems:

&quot;A closed sysem has three peculiarities. Firstly, it claims to represent a truth of universal validity, capable of explaining all phenomena, and to have a cure for all that ails man. In the second place, it is a system which cannot be refuted by evidence, because all potentially damaging data are automatically processed and reinterpreted to make them fit the expected pattern. The processing is done by sophisticated methods of causistry, centered on axioms of great emotive power, and indifferent to the rules of common logic; it is a kind of Wonderland croquet, played with mobile hoops. 

In the third place, it is a system which invalidates criticism by shifting the argument to the subjective motivation of the critic, and deducing his motivation from the axioms of the system itself. The orthodox Freudian school in its early stages approximated a closed system; if you argued that for such and such reasons you doubted the existence of the so-called castration complex, the Freudian’s prompt answer was that your argument betrayed an unconscious resistance indicating that you ourself have a castration complex; you were caught in a vicious circle. Similarly, if you argued with a Stalinist that to make a pact with Hitler was not a nice thing to do he would explain that your bourgeois class-consciousness made you unable to understand the dialectics of history…

In short, the closed system excludes the possibility of objective argument by two related proceedings: (a) facts are deprived of their value as evidence by scholastic processing; (b) objections are invalidated by shifting the argument to the personal motive behind the objection. This procedure is legitimate according to the closed system’s rules of the game which, however absurd they seem to the outsider, have a great coherence and inner consistency.

The atmosphere inside the closed system is highly charged; it is an emoional hothouse…The trained, “closed-minded” theologian, psychoanalyst, or Marxist can at any time make mincemeat of his “open-minded” adversary and thus prove the superiority of his system to the world and to himself.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sowell argues that American thought is dominated by a “prevailing vision” which seals itself off from any empirical evidence that is inconsistent with that vision.&#8221;</p>
<p>Arthur Koestler, himself a former Communist, wrote about the nature of intellectually closed systems:</p>
<p>&#8220;A closed sysem has three peculiarities. Firstly, it claims to represent a truth of universal validity, capable of explaining all phenomena, and to have a cure for all that ails man. In the second place, it is a system which cannot be refuted by evidence, because all potentially damaging data are automatically processed and reinterpreted to make them fit the expected pattern. The processing is done by sophisticated methods of causistry, centered on axioms of great emotive power, and indifferent to the rules of common logic; it is a kind of Wonderland croquet, played with mobile hoops. </p>
<p>In the third place, it is a system which invalidates criticism by shifting the argument to the subjective motivation of the critic, and deducing his motivation from the axioms of the system itself. The orthodox Freudian school in its early stages approximated a closed system; if you argued that for such and such reasons you doubted the existence of the so-called castration complex, the Freudian’s prompt answer was that your argument betrayed an unconscious resistance indicating that you ourself have a castration complex; you were caught in a vicious circle. Similarly, if you argued with a Stalinist that to make a pact with Hitler was not a nice thing to do he would explain that your bourgeois class-consciousness made you unable to understand the dialectics of history…</p>
<p>In short, the closed system excludes the possibility of objective argument by two related proceedings: (a) facts are deprived of their value as evidence by scholastic processing; (b) objections are invalidated by shifting the argument to the personal motive behind the objection. This procedure is legitimate according to the closed system’s rules of the game which, however absurd they seem to the outsider, have a great coherence and inner consistency.</p>
<p>The atmosphere inside the closed system is highly charged; it is an emoional hothouse…The trained, “closed-minded” theologian, psychoanalyst, or Marxist can at any time make mincemeat of his “open-minded” adversary and thus prove the superiority of his system to the world and to himself.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Someone&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; been brainwashed.

Elon says &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1607997591870124032&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;not him&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Someone&#8217;s</b> been brainwashed.</p>
<p>Elon says <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1607997591870124032" rel="nofollow ugc">not him</a>.</p>
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		By: Sharon W		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659308</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon W]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ you may want to take a look at the study examining IgG antibodies and the distribution between the 4 types as more booster shots are administered. There is a cause for concern.  After all, at the very least, long-term data regarding mRNA therapy doesn&#039;t yet exist.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798?utm_source=substack&#038;utm_medium=email]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ you may want to take a look at the study examining IgG antibodies and the distribution between the 4 types as more booster shots are administered. There is a cause for concern.  After all, at the very least, long-term data regarding mRNA therapy doesn&#8217;t yet exist.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798?utm_source=substack&#038;utm_medium=email" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798?utm_source=substack&#038;utm_medium=email</a></p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 04:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In addition to reading Neo, Iwas watching the Whitehouse briefings and also Laura Ingraham&#039;s &quot;medicine cabinet.&quot; It was obvious that there was a conflict in opinions about the best way to proceed.  Who to believe?  I wanted to believe that Fauci and Birx were real experts, but I could tell there was tension with Trump. He kept saying that we couldn&#039;t keep locked down, and the duo kept asking for just a bit more.

When the HQC issue arose, the doctors that were using it were all saying it had to be used before you got too ill, but Fauci, the CDC, and FDA kept citing the few trials where it was used after hospitalization where it failed to help. And yet, Dr. Steven Smith, one of Ingraham&#039;s medicine cabinet, kept appearing on her show and detailing how he used HQC, Zn, Z-Pac to get patients well.  In the meantime, the FDA trotted out some cardiac side effect from HCQ that was quite rare, but enough to allow the government to threaten pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for HQC except for Lupus.   

The   Trump got infected and was cured rather quickly with monoclonal antibodies.  Wow, I thought the pandemic was over.  There was a cure! But, no, it was as if he had never gotten sick or he had not been given any treatment. From that point on I was certain that the NIH, CDC, and FDA were not telling us the truth.  MY question then and now is why?  Money seems one explanation. The urge to power seems another. But how do these people sleep at night?

I knew it wasn&#039;t as dangerous as they claimed, but if I got it, being 87and with some medical issues, I was probably not going to survive.  When the vaccine became available, my wife and I got the Pfoizer shots as soon as we could.  We thought we were pretty safe, and, in the summer of 2021, we traveled to see all our family in Colorado. Other than wearing masks on the planes we took no precautions.  In the fall of 2021, we took the booster shots. A couple of weeks later I was seeing a doctor for water on the elbow. :-) He warned me to not rely on the vaccines as there were now a number of &quot;breakthrough&quot; cases occurring. What??  So, we went back to being very careful, then our daughter caught the Omicron virus.  We expected to catch it from her because we live in the same house and breathe the same air. She recovered in five days, and we never got sick.  Well, maybe it&#039;s not as contagious as they were saying, but we had always been taking Vitamin D3, Quercetin, Melatonin, and Zn. Maybe we were resistant. 

My doctor asked me if I had gotten a bivalent booster a couple of weeks ago.  I told her I was watching the case rate in the county and if a new wave seemed to appear, I would get the booster.  I was surprised when she said that was a decent plan.

Trust in our institutions is now broken. I don&#039;t know what they can do to regain it, but it&#039;s going to take a lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to reading Neo, Iwas watching the Whitehouse briefings and also Laura Ingraham&#8217;s &#8220;medicine cabinet.&#8221; It was obvious that there was a conflict in opinions about the best way to proceed.  Who to believe?  I wanted to believe that Fauci and Birx were real experts, but I could tell there was tension with Trump. He kept saying that we couldn&#8217;t keep locked down, and the duo kept asking for just a bit more.</p>
<p>When the HQC issue arose, the doctors that were using it were all saying it had to be used before you got too ill, but Fauci, the CDC, and FDA kept citing the few trials where it was used after hospitalization where it failed to help. And yet, Dr. Steven Smith, one of Ingraham&#8217;s medicine cabinet, kept appearing on her show and detailing how he used HQC, Zn, Z-Pac to get patients well.  In the meantime, the FDA trotted out some cardiac side effect from HCQ that was quite rare, but enough to allow the government to threaten pharmacies to not fill prescriptions for HQC except for Lupus.   </p>
<p>The   Trump got infected and was cured rather quickly with monoclonal antibodies.  Wow, I thought the pandemic was over.  There was a cure! But, no, it was as if he had never gotten sick or he had not been given any treatment. From that point on I was certain that the NIH, CDC, and FDA were not telling us the truth.  MY question then and now is why?  Money seems one explanation. The urge to power seems another. But how do these people sleep at night?</p>
<p>I knew it wasn&#8217;t as dangerous as they claimed, but if I got it, being 87and with some medical issues, I was probably not going to survive.  When the vaccine became available, my wife and I got the Pfoizer shots as soon as we could.  We thought we were pretty safe, and, in the summer of 2021, we traveled to see all our family in Colorado. Other than wearing masks on the planes we took no precautions.  In the fall of 2021, we took the booster shots. A couple of weeks later I was seeing a doctor for water on the elbow. 🙂 He warned me to not rely on the vaccines as there were now a number of &#8220;breakthrough&#8221; cases occurring. What??  So, we went back to being very careful, then our daughter caught the Omicron virus.  We expected to catch it from her because we live in the same house and breathe the same air. She recovered in five days, and we never got sick.  Well, maybe it&#8217;s not as contagious as they were saying, but we had always been taking Vitamin D3, Quercetin, Melatonin, and Zn. Maybe we were resistant. </p>
<p>My doctor asked me if I had gotten a bivalent booster a couple of weeks ago.  I told her I was watching the case rate in the county and if a new wave seemed to appear, I would get the booster.  I was surprised when she said that was a decent plan.</p>
<p>Trust in our institutions is now broken. I don&#8217;t know what they can do to regain it, but it&#8217;s going to take a lot.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 02:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;what was also striking is that back then a fairly inexpensive sulfur based antibiotic, bactrim, was effective in treating severe cases,&lt;/i&gt;

This is lunacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>what was also striking is that back then a fairly inexpensive sulfur based antibiotic, bactrim, was effective in treating severe cases,</i></p>
<p>This is lunacy.</p>
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		By: Sheldon Katz		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sheldon Katz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 01:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All anyone needed to know about the danger posed by Covid could be learned from the Diamond Princess.  And yet it was disregarded.  Why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All anyone needed to know about the danger posed by Covid could be learned from the Diamond Princess.  And yet it was disregarded.  Why?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/reflections-on-the-covid-twitter-files-so-far/#comment-2659243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 00:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was about power and money. So many lives lost unnecessarily, including from the secondary effects of the shutdowns. The government&#039;s role in suppressing dissent and commentary is evil and should be criminal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was about power and money. So many lives lost unnecessarily, including from the secondary effects of the shutdowns. The government&#8217;s role in suppressing dissent and commentary is evil and should be criminal.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Twitter made three significant mistakes:&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

The then powers that be at Twitter made no &quot;mistakes&quot; it was intentional and willing compliance. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I just don’t see the end game for the current mitigation strategies.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; neo 

Ascertaining the &quot;end game&quot; is only difficult because, for those who retain their moral compass, it&#039;s too horrible to contemplate. They were never intended to be &quot;mitigation strategies&quot;. They were intended to be &lt;i&gt;propagation&lt;/i&gt; strategies. And they succeeded beyond all expectations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Twitter made three significant mistakes:&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>The then powers that be at Twitter made no &#8220;mistakes&#8221; it was intentional and willing compliance. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;I just don’t see the end game for the current mitigation strategies.&#8221;</i> neo </p>
<p>Ascertaining the &#8220;end game&#8221; is only difficult because, for those who retain their moral compass, it&#8217;s too horrible to contemplate. They were never intended to be &#8220;mitigation strategies&#8221;. They were intended to be <i>propagation</i> strategies. And they succeeded beyond all expectations.</p>
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