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		By: F		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 15:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chases:

Maybe some of those high winds will clean out Washington&#039;s homeless tent cities.]]></description>
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<p>Maybe some of those high winds will clean out Washington&#8217;s homeless tent cities.</p>
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		By: Chases Eagles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/open-thread-12-27-22/#comment-2659259</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 03:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lot of flooding in western Washington today. For first time since I have owned this place the waves came over my bulkhead (+16 ft). Flooded out one of my cameras. The Ordinary High Water mark is +10.5 here.

“ SEATTLE - Get ready for an active evening of weather across Western Washington! We&#039;re tracking strong, widespread and prolonged winds. Rain will be heavy, increasing the risk for flooding and landslides.

Coastal communities are facing a flooding threat today as high tides combine with low pressure in the atmosphere. Later tonight, mountain snow could be quite intense.

The strongest winds will likely happen between 4-7 p.m. Tuesday, but gusts are already picking up across Western Washington. Many communities from Seattle through Bellingham will see gusts to 50 mph. Gusts to 55 to 60 mph are in the forecast for Olympia and southward. While we can&#039;t rule out Seattle from seeing gusts to 60 mph, it&#039;s more likely to the south. Gusts in excess of 65 mph are possible for the Central and North Coast. The South Washington Coast could see winds of 60 to 80 mph!”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot of flooding in western Washington today. For first time since I have owned this place the waves came over my bulkhead (+16 ft). Flooded out one of my cameras. The Ordinary High Water mark is +10.5 here.</p>
<p>“ SEATTLE &#8211; Get ready for an active evening of weather across Western Washington! We&#8217;re tracking strong, widespread and prolonged winds. Rain will be heavy, increasing the risk for flooding and landslides.</p>
<p>Coastal communities are facing a flooding threat today as high tides combine with low pressure in the atmosphere. Later tonight, mountain snow could be quite intense.</p>
<p>The strongest winds will likely happen between 4-7 p.m. Tuesday, but gusts are already picking up across Western Washington. Many communities from Seattle through Bellingham will see gusts to 50 mph. Gusts to 55 to 60 mph are in the forecast for Olympia and southward. While we can&#8217;t rule out Seattle from seeing gusts to 60 mph, it&#8217;s more likely to the south. Gusts in excess of 65 mph are possible for the Central and North Coast. The South Washington Coast could see winds of 60 to 80 mph!”</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 02:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:

I agree regarding the l totalitarian left/right falsity.  The left really exploded when TIK posted &quot;Hitler Was A Socislist&quot; albeit a totalitarian one.  When he posted quotes from him the wailing, denial, and wholescale reinvention of words began.  Ends and means. Power as an end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:</p>
<p>I agree regarding the l totalitarian left/right falsity.  The left really exploded when TIK posted &#8220;Hitler Was A Socislist&#8221; albeit a totalitarian one.  When he posted quotes from him the wailing, denial, and wholescale reinvention of words began.  Ends and means. Power as an end.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/open-thread-12-27-22/#comment-2659251</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 01:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it really was striking as he preached from the book of isiah, and described exactly what his fate would be, referencing what had happened to the prophets of old,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it really was striking as he preached from the book of isiah, and described exactly what his fate would be, referencing what had happened to the prophets of old,</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain-- Bach&#039;s music has plenty of heart, particularly his choral works. Granted, I grew up in a liturgical tradition in which Bach&#039;s music is foundational-- but even people from different religious backgrounds find works like the Mass in B Minor intensely spiritual. 

Since we&#039;re in the Christmas season, I&#039;ll include here the concluding chorale of Cantata VI (for the Feast of the Epiphany, January 6) from the &lt;i&gt;Weihnachtsoratorium&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;: the trumpets, kettledrums, and oboe give the chorale melody a festive, even regal, sound to accompany the text written by Bach&#039;s librettist (Christoph Friedrich Henrici):

&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nun seid ihr wohl gerochen
An eurer Feinde Schar,
Denn Christus hat zerbrochen,
Was euch zuwider war.
Tod, Teufel, Sünd und Hölle
Sind ganz und gar geschwächt;
Bei Gott hat seine Stelle
Das menschliche Geschlecht.&lt;/i&gt;

A rough English translation:

Now are you well avenged
On the entire troop of your enemies,
Because Christ has shattered
All that stood against you.
Death, the Devil, Sin, and Hell
Are utterly devastated.
Humankind now has its place
At God&#039;s side.

Now-- and here is where Bach&#039;s heart is present as well as his head-- the chorale tune sung at the conclusion of the entire oratorio is more familiar to most Western Christians as the Passion Chorale--the hymn tune used on Good Friday for the hymn &quot;O Sacred Head, Now Wounded.&quot; It is Bach&#039;s way of reminding his hearers that Christ&#039;s death was foreshadowed from His birth, and that this is what brings humans close to God&#039;s own heart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULC5uyVb70&#038;ab_channel=JohnBeake

And to thank Neo for the many dance videos she posts for all of us over the course of the year, here is Kathryn Morgan&#039;s ballet improvisation set to the Adagio from Bach&#039;s Concerto in D Minor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmE-bmv_CB0&#038;ab_channel=KathrynMorgan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain&#8211; Bach&#8217;s music has plenty of heart, particularly his choral works. Granted, I grew up in a liturgical tradition in which Bach&#8217;s music is foundational&#8211; but even people from different religious backgrounds find works like the Mass in B Minor intensely spiritual. </p>
<p>Since we&#8217;re in the Christmas season, I&#8217;ll include here the concluding chorale of Cantata VI (for the Feast of the Epiphany, January 6) from the <i>Weihnachtsoratorium</i><i>: the trumpets, kettledrums, and oboe give the chorale melody a festive, even regal, sound to accompany the text written by Bach&#8217;s librettist (Christoph Friedrich Henrici):</p>
<p></i><i>Nun seid ihr wohl gerochen<br />
An eurer Feinde Schar,<br />
Denn Christus hat zerbrochen,<br />
Was euch zuwider war.<br />
Tod, Teufel, Sünd und Hölle<br />
Sind ganz und gar geschwächt;<br />
Bei Gott hat seine Stelle<br />
Das menschliche Geschlecht.</i></p>
<p>A rough English translation:</p>
<p>Now are you well avenged<br />
On the entire troop of your enemies,<br />
Because Christ has shattered<br />
All that stood against you.<br />
Death, the Devil, Sin, and Hell<br />
Are utterly devastated.<br />
Humankind now has its place<br />
At God&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>Now&#8211; and here is where Bach&#8217;s heart is present as well as his head&#8211; the chorale tune sung at the conclusion of the entire oratorio is more familiar to most Western Christians as the Passion Chorale&#8211;the hymn tune used on Good Friday for the hymn &#8220;O Sacred Head, Now Wounded.&#8221; It is Bach&#8217;s way of reminding his hearers that Christ&#8217;s death was foreshadowed from His birth, and that this is what brings humans close to God&#8217;s own heart:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULC5uyVb70&#038;ab_channel=JohnBeake" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULC5uyVb70&#038;ab_channel=JohnBeake</a></p>
<p>And to thank Neo for the many dance videos she posts for all of us over the course of the year, here is Kathryn Morgan&#8217;s ballet improvisation set to the Adagio from Bach&#8217;s Concerto in D Minor:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmE-bmv_CB0&#038;ab_channel=KathrynMorgan" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmE-bmv_CB0&#038;ab_channel=KathrynMorgan</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/open-thread-12-27-22/#comment-2659249</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 01:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[om:

Genocide and gulags strike me as likely, if not inevitable, outcomes for a &quot;one-party totalitarian state.&quot;

It occurs to me &quot;Stalinism&quot; as &quot;one-party totalitarian police state&quot; might work better when conservatives make the argument to non-conservatives that Communism and Nazism were essentially the same and not at opposite ends of the left-right political spectrum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om:</p>
<p>Genocide and gulags strike me as likely, if not inevitable, outcomes for a &#8220;one-party totalitarian state.&#8221;</p>
<p>It occurs to me &#8220;Stalinism&#8221; as &#8220;one-party totalitarian police state&#8221; might work better when conservatives make the argument to non-conservatives that Communism and Nazism were essentially the same and not at opposite ends of the left-right political spectrum.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/open-thread-12-27-22/#comment-2659247</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 00:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley:

With the bonus of genocide and Gulags; features not bugs?

Putin speaks fondly of Old Uncle Joe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley:</p>
<p>With the bonus of genocide and Gulags; features not bugs?</p>
<p>Putin speaks fondly of Old Uncle Joe.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 00:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[heh

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/12/make-george-santos-speaker.html#more]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh</p>
<p><a href="https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/12/make-george-santos-speaker.html#more" rel="nofollow ugc">https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/12/make-george-santos-speaker.html#more</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/open-thread-12-27-22/#comment-2659242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 00:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wiki provides a definition of Stalinism which IMO is quite good and historically accurate. 

Fortunately, Stalinism has not become overused to the point it has become purely a term of abuse like &quot;fascist&quot; and &quot;neoconservative.&quot;
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&lt;i&gt;Stalinism is the means of governing and Marxist-Leninist policies implemented in the Soviet Union from 1927 to 1953 by Joseph Stalin. &lt;b&gt;It included the creation of a one-party totalitarian police state, rapid industrialization, the theory of socialism in one country, collectivization of agriculture, intensification of class conflict, a cult of personality,[1][2] and subordination of the interests of foreign communist parties to those of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union,&lt;/b&gt; deemed by Stalinism to be the leading vanguard party of communist revolution at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism&lt;/i&gt;
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Minus the specifics of Joseph Stalin and the years he was head of the USSR, it is a workable definition for a pathological leftist state. 

I like that the definition leads with &quot;one-party totalitarian police state.&quot; That&#039;s a key distinction for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki provides a definition of Stalinism which IMO is quite good and historically accurate. </p>
<p>Fortunately, Stalinism has not become overused to the point it has become purely a term of abuse like &#8220;fascist&#8221; and &#8220;neoconservative.&#8221;<br />
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<p><i>Stalinism is the means of governing and Marxist-Leninist policies implemented in the Soviet Union from 1927 to 1953 by Joseph Stalin. <b>It included the creation of a one-party totalitarian police state, rapid industrialization, the theory of socialism in one country, collectivization of agriculture, intensification of class conflict, a cult of personality,[1][2] and subordination of the interests of foreign communist parties to those of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union,</b> deemed by Stalinism to be the leading vanguard party of communist revolution at the time.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism</a></i><br />
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<p>Minus the specifics of Joseph Stalin and the years he was head of the USSR, it is a workable definition for a pathological leftist state. </p>
<p>I like that the definition leads with &#8220;one-party totalitarian police state.&#8221; That&#8217;s a key distinction for me.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/27/open-thread-12-27-22/#comment-2659241</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2022 23:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Harpsichord?  Pipe organ if you want something hearty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harpsichord?  Pipe organ if you want something hearty.</p>
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