Comments on: More on Kari Lake’s election challenge trial

By: Ray SoCa

Ray SoCa — Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:34:55 +0000

By not opening up this can of worms on an election that was blatantly manipulated and was shown the results can’t be trusted, the judge has opened another can of worms. That the judicial system ignores election fraud, and can’t be trusted to be fair, impartial, and show courage on conservative issues.

And it’s shown the eGOP is a bunch of back stabbers, especially the ones in charge of the Maricopa Elections.

The result has further alienated and inflamed the majority of gop voters from the eGOP.

I hope this level of fraud, censorship, propaganda, lying, and intimidation is stopped.

I’m glad the case actually went to trial. That is a huge step. And who knows, may be in appeal it will succeed. My guess is the judge deliberately chose the allowed items for trial, that had an impossible hurdle to them of requiring if deliberate fraud. And without a confession, the outcome was preordained.

By: Skip

Skip — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 20:11:38 +0000

Appears judge threw out case
No one wants to be the one opening the can elections are fraught with fraud and are useless

By: Bruce Hayden

Bruce Hayden — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 15:32:55 +0000

My worry is that if Hobbs becomes Governor, there will be no further tightening up of the election requirements here in AZ, and in particular, Maricopa County. She could, and no doubt would, veto anything along those lines, thereby guaranteeing her reelection. And with a Dem governor, I expect to ultimately get a Dem Sumpre Court here in AZ, which will entrench the election fraud, and thus, Dem power, for the foreseeable future.

I liked the Lake Complaint, and do fault the judge in tossing out so many of her claims. It shouldn’t take proof that there was intentional fraud involved – just that the election faults made it impossible to prove that the election was accurate. That the level of fraud, misfeasance, and malfeasance was higher than the margin of victory. For example, no audit trail of the mail in votes, should have resulted in throwing out all mail in votes. That’s what is called for under AZ law, but is what the Dems (and McCain GOPe) can’t allow to happen. Looking at the amount of fraud, malfeasance, and misfeasance involved, it is likely that the Dems probably stole well over a half million votes, or more in this election, as they did in 2020.

I think that

By: John Guilfoyle

John Guilfoyle — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 02:24:48 +0000

Thanks Leland.
Holy freaking moly.
Necks need stretching.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 02:24:05 +0000

No more certain design exists to destroy a republic than to convince a majority of its citizens that voting is a meaningless exercise in futility.

By: neo

neo — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 01:52:53 +0000

Mike Smith:

“Problems” can be intentional or unintentional. I tend to think in this case it was intentional.

By: Leland

Leland — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 01:40:29 +0000

link to that

By: junior

junior — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 01:35:16 +0000

Given what I read about the Maricopa election problems early on, at the very least the results should be thrown out and a new election called in that county. And if that were to happen, it should be done under the auspices of a court-ordered group, and not the utterly incompetent (if you’re feeling charitable) individuals who have run it since at least the 2020 election.

That would get around the issue of, “Well we can’t be sure that a free and fair election would have gone for Lake.”

By: TommyJay

TommyJay — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 01:28:25 +0000

I believe prosecutions and jail sentences are a necessary part of the solution. But to the extent that Neo is correct about the inevitable failure of ferreting out the fraud after the fact, it’s not going to happen in any bulk sense. (Many people have been convicted for such things over the years, but the number of fraud votes involved is not substantial. And the sentences vary from very modest to near zero, which I think is scandalous.)

I’d like to think that there is some super clever, techie solution to that “ferreting out” problem, but that’s more of a hope and a wish at this point.

By: Kate

Kate — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 01:04:41 +0000

If the Maricopa County situation isn’t intentional (and it looks like it is), it’s certainly contrary to Arizona election law in several respects. People should be fired and possibly prosecuted.