Comments on: Open thread 12/16/22

By: AesopFan

AesopFan — Sun, 18 Dec 2022 08:06:39 +0000

@ stan > “…read Joseph Smith’s Book of Mormon to settle all questions on religion.”

Works for me.

By: om

om — Sun, 18 Dec 2022 01:58:13 +0000

Miguel:

That wasn’t a war crime either. But you should know that too.

By: miguel cervante

miguel cervante — Sun, 18 Dec 2022 00:13:55 +0000

remember it was a warcrime when trump was said to be using tear gas, to clear lafayette square, then it turned out it was the dc police, but never mind,

By: om

om — Sun, 18 Dec 2022 00:02:11 +0000

stan jumps the shark citing the Geneva Convention.

Sheesh.

By: miguel cervante

miguel cervante — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:55:52 +0000

i did, well not all of it, because it’s a massive tome, but it addressed most of the controversies i’ve heard,

By: neo

neo — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:53:52 +0000

miguel cervantes:

Read Bugliosi’s book.

By: miguel cervante

miguel cervante — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:36:47 +0000

you can’t acount for every element, every person oswald was in contact, the soviets mounted an active measure ops almost as soon as the ambulance left parkland hospital, through european outlets, in france and italy, through vanity publications, like james buchanan, some of this jim garrison picked up on, the soviets don’t really want to admit how much contact they and their proxies had with oswald, in places like minsk, but some serious people, by establi0shment lights like mowatt larsen (i think his conjectures are often wrong, see his tds) do not discard these matters, out of hand, of course letting larry sabato make heads or tails of these documents seems utterly ridiculous IMHO

I would chalk it up to incompetence, how poorly the deep state handled these matters in 1963, and I can’t see they have done better nearly 50 years later,

By: neo

neo — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:26:57 +0000

stan:

Bugliosi has been “called out” by the JFK conspiracy theorists, of course. But they have nothing – absolutely nothing – to counter it with, although they count on convincing those who have not read his book, which admittedly is very long. Bugliosi utterly and completely demolishes them – with the facts, which are OVERWHELMING. He ignores nothing; that’s what makes his book so exhaustive. Your analogy to a religious text is completely misplaced.

Read his book. Also, read all the posts I’ve written here about the assassination.

By: stan

stan — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:26:51 +0000

jon baker,

The use of tear gas in the assault was a violation of the Geneva Convention. There isn’t any possible way to justify a massive military assault. None.

Dozens of children were killed. The news media didn’t care. The despicable Janet Reno (who was responsible for prosecuting innocents on fabricated day care center abuse charges in Miami) was lauded by the news media for her role. It was sick. Instead of any concern for the dead kids, they used the label “religious nuts” and the kids were ‘othered’ into irrelevance.

By: miguel cervante

miguel cervante — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 18:25:00 +0000

and one can’t forget how he went mad over florida, and the 2000 election, but he reasonably accounted most data regarding that date, he didn’t have it all, for instance there was a cia operative, who was surveying and supporting certain exile elements in new orleans, and probably dallas, but much of the stories that were regurgitated by bill kurtis and other players,