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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/13/open-thread-12-13-22/#comment-2657508</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 10:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alas...so much BETRAYAL...sigh....
So much DOUBLE- and TRIPLE- and QUADRUPLE- crossing...sigh...
So much SUBTERFUGE...sigh...
...and so much more to come...!! 

&quot;Decent Joe Biden&quot; indeed!!

Not that BETRAYAL is anything new, mind you.
What IS new is BETRAYAL with a smiling, charming, beneficial, moralizing face!
Hold on! That&#039;s not new, either.
Let&#039;s rephrase, then:
What IS new is BETRAYAL as the conscious, intentional, altruistic, patriotic, over-arching POLICY of the United States Government...toward its own citizens...and---its &quot;purported&quot;, it must be stated---&quot;allies&quot;.

(And so, &quot;Decent &#039;Joe Biden&#039; indeed!!&quot;...in its appropriately, if slightly, edited format...)

So where were we? Oh yes, BETRAYAL (our old friend; our dear nemesis!)...
Here&#039;s an---almost unbelievable---article on how Nasser (of all people), by, um, trodding on British---and CIA---toes, saved the Jewish State!
&quot;The Failed British Double-Cross of Israel&quot;---
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/failed-british-double-cross-israel
(Read it to the end...)

+ Bonus (in the spirit of the current &quot;wise-guy&quot; zeitgeist):
&quot;Beware the Do-Gooders;
&quot;How a new class of capitalists couched their profit-seeking in the language of social justice and altruism&quot;---
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/beware-do-gooders
H/T Powerline blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas&#8230;so much BETRAYAL&#8230;sigh&#8230;.<br />
So much DOUBLE- and TRIPLE- and QUADRUPLE- crossing&#8230;sigh&#8230;<br />
So much SUBTERFUGE&#8230;sigh&#8230;<br />
&#8230;and so much more to come&#8230;!! </p>
<p>&#8220;Decent Joe Biden&#8221; indeed!!</p>
<p>Not that BETRAYAL is anything new, mind you.<br />
What IS new is BETRAYAL with a smiling, charming, beneficial, moralizing face!<br />
Hold on! That&#8217;s not new, either.<br />
Let&#8217;s rephrase, then:<br />
What IS new is BETRAYAL as the conscious, intentional, altruistic, patriotic, over-arching POLICY of the United States Government&#8230;toward its own citizens&#8230;and&#8212;its &#8220;purported&#8221;, it must be stated&#8212;&#8220;allies&#8221;.</p>
<p>(And so, &#8220;Decent &#8216;Joe Biden&#8217; indeed!!&#8221;&#8230;in its appropriately, if slightly, edited format&#8230;)</p>
<p>So where were we? Oh yes, BETRAYAL (our old friend; our dear nemesis!)&#8230;<br />
Here&#8217;s an&#8212;almost unbelievable&#8212;article on how Nasser (of all people), by, um, trodding on British&#8212;and CIA&#8212;toes, saved the Jewish State!<br />
&#8220;The Failed British Double-Cross of Israel&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/failed-british-double-cross-israel" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/failed-british-double-cross-israel</a><br />
(Read it to the end&#8230;)</p>
<p>+ Bonus (in the spirit of the current &#8220;wise-guy&#8221; zeitgeist):<br />
&#8220;Beware the Do-Gooders;<br />
&#8220;How a new class of capitalists couched their profit-seeking in the language of social justice and altruism&#8221;&#8212;<br />
<a href="https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/beware-do-gooders" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/beware-do-gooders</a><br />
H/T Powerline blog.</p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/13/open-thread-12-13-22/#comment-2657483</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 04:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting interview by Tulsi Gabbard with Tucker Carlson. It&#039;s queued up to where &lt;i&gt;&quot;Tucker... outline(s) a conversation with representative Mike McCaul after the Texas republican and incoming Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee described Carlson as an agent of Russia.  When Carlson got into an argument with McCaul over the accusation, McCaul went on to tell Carlson his intelligence community briefers were the ones who provided the information.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/13/incoming-republican-house-foreign-affairs-chairman-calls-tucker-carlson-an-agent-of-russia-based-on-dc-intel-briefing/

The best posture is to disbelieve most of what the intelligence community says.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting interview by Tulsi Gabbard with Tucker Carlson. It&#8217;s queued up to where <i>&#8220;Tucker&#8230; outline(s) a conversation with representative Mike McCaul after the Texas republican and incoming Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee described Carlson as an agent of Russia.  When Carlson got into an argument with McCaul over the accusation, McCaul went on to tell Carlson his intelligence community briefers were the ones who provided the information.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><a href="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/13/incoming-republican-house-foreign-affairs-chairman-calls-tucker-carlson-an-agent-of-russia-based-on-dc-intel-briefing/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/13/incoming-republican-house-foreign-affairs-chairman-calls-tucker-carlson-an-agent-of-russia-based-on-dc-intel-briefing/</a></p>
<p>The best posture is to disbelieve most of what the intelligence community says.</p>
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		By: Mike Plaiss		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/13/open-thread-12-13-22/#comment-2657454</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Plaiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 00:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, that was why I tuned in. The news releases yesterday and the day before were pretty cryptic. I wanted to know if something fundamental/theoretical was being applied that was new. It wasn’t in case you were wondering. Better engineering is what it was. Better capsule - thicker (that was a bit of a surprise), and a bit more perfect, which is saying something. And better symmetry of the incoming energy waves. Everyone seemed a bit surprised at the output vs input, which I thought was interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that was why I tuned in. The news releases yesterday and the day before were pretty cryptic. I wanted to know if something fundamental/theoretical was being applied that was new. It wasn’t in case you were wondering. Better engineering is what it was. Better capsule &#8211; thicker (that was a bit of a surprise), and a bit more perfect, which is saying something. And better symmetry of the incoming energy waves. Everyone seemed a bit surprised at the output vs input, which I thought was interesting.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 00:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sun and hydrogen bombs work fine. 

The problem with fusion is controlling the reaction so its power can be used, as opposed to incinerating everything in the vicinity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sun and hydrogen bombs work fine. </p>
<p>The problem with fusion is controlling the reaction so its power can be used, as opposed to incinerating everything in the vicinity.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/13/open-thread-12-13-22/#comment-2657451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the imput is greater than the output because the power it takes to fuse hydrogen atoms,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the imput is greater than the output because the power it takes to fuse hydrogen atoms,</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/13/open-thread-12-13-22/#comment-2657450</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unless the NC Attorney General has evidence that Mark Meadows &lt;i&gt;voted&lt;/i&gt; in multiple places in a single federal election he&#039;s got no case. I have moved a lot and have probably been registered in two states multiple times. I&#039;ve never voted anywhere other than at my current residential address. By the way, the NC AG is a Democrat, and quite a partisan one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the NC Attorney General has evidence that Mark Meadows <i>voted</i> in multiple places in a single federal election he&#8217;s got no case. I have moved a lot and have probably been registered in two states multiple times. I&#8217;ve never voted anywhere other than at my current residential address. By the way, the NC AG is a Democrat, and quite a partisan one.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Nuclear fusion

Bob Wilson:

I&#039;m beating my own drum, but I put some effort into the comment linked below, making a similar point to yours:

https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657211

At this point I&#039;m pretty disillusioned with big budget magnets-lasers-D-T fusion reactors (Tokamaks). When the energy (and expenses, as you point out) are fully accounted for, that process needs to be improved by a factor on the order of 1000x to provide the power we need.

The current incremental improvements aren&#039;t going to get us there. We need some fundamental breakthroughs to make the Tokamak approach work ... if it can. Absent those, Tokamak is just a gravy train for some fusion researchers, which offers little benefit to the world.

Someday, somehow, we may crack fusion, but in the meantime we need better alternatives to Tokomaks -- fission or fusion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Nuclear fusion</p>
<p>Bob Wilson:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beating my own drum, but I put some effort into the comment linked below, making a similar point to yours:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657211" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657211</a></p>
<p>At this point I&#8217;m pretty disillusioned with big budget magnets-lasers-D-T fusion reactors (Tokamaks). When the energy (and expenses, as you point out) are fully accounted for, that process needs to be improved by a factor on the order of 1000x to provide the power we need.</p>
<p>The current incremental improvements aren&#8217;t going to get us there. We need some fundamental breakthroughs to make the Tokamak approach work &#8230; if it can. Absent those, Tokamak is just a gravy train for some fusion researchers, which offers little benefit to the world.</p>
<p>Someday, somehow, we may crack fusion, but in the meantime we need better alternatives to Tokomaks &#8212; fission or fusion.</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.educationaladvisors.com/higher-ed-is-a-public-good-lets-fund-it-like-one/

Higher ed apparatchik writes a short piece the point of departure of which is an assertion he knows damned well is nonsense.  You could call him a liar, but his reaction would likely be that you were trash talking him.  The people in charge of institutions in this country lie like ordinary people breathe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.educationaladvisors.com/higher-ed-is-a-public-good-lets-fund-it-like-one/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.educationaladvisors.com/higher-ed-is-a-public-good-lets-fund-it-like-one/</a></p>
<p>Higher ed apparatchik writes a short piece the point of departure of which is an assertion he knows damned well is nonsense.  You could call him a liar, but his reaction would likely be that you were trash talking him.  The people in charge of institutions in this country lie like ordinary people breathe.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/13/open-thread-12-13-22/#comment-2657446</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brain E:

Some more homework for you; an interview with a British volunteer who fought in Ukraine (against the Roosians) by &lt;b&gt;Lindybeige&lt;/b&gt;, a YouTube historian:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbD4WBqPg4

Time period was early in the conflict.  You undoubtably will relish his description of incidents of incompetence, corruption, and criminality that he describes.  Which, wait for it, is a unchanging feature of war.  Another thing you may not have realized.

Cheers, Brain E.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brain E:</p>
<p>Some more homework for you; an interview with a British volunteer who fought in Ukraine (against the Roosians) by <b>Lindybeige</b>, a YouTube historian:</p>
<p><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbD4WBqPg4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbD4WBqPg4</a></p>
<p>Time period was early in the conflict.  You undoubtably will relish his description of incidents of incompetence, corruption, and criminality that he describes.  Which, wait for it, is a unchanging feature of war.  Another thing you may not have realized.</p>
<p>Cheers, Brain E.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brain E:

I see you are focused on corruption in Ukraine now.  How quaint.  Ukraine has corruption problems no doubt as well as a slightly larger problem of Roosia actively trying to dismember it.  But then Vlad has decided that Ukraine doesn&#039;t really constitute a nation, a culture, or a people; just lapsed or debased or Satanized Russians.  Or haven&#039;t you paid attention to that either?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brain E:</p>
<p>I see you are focused on corruption in Ukraine now.  How quaint.  Ukraine has corruption problems no doubt as well as a slightly larger problem of Roosia actively trying to dismember it.  But then Vlad has decided that Ukraine doesn&#8217;t really constitute a nation, a culture, or a people; just lapsed or debased or Satanized Russians.  Or haven&#8217;t you paid attention to that either?</p>
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