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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657438</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Snow on Pine,

 It&#039;s a great article, however- for me to be, in scientific ways, to be satisfied that octopuses, [are to be declared as &quot;very likely to be from another planet, or from outer space&quot;, first I&#039;d like to have NASA or other people 1] physically touch that planet, and then 2] present their physical samples from that planet, to trace the octopuses- from that planet to planet earth.

 Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Snow on Pine,</p>
<p> It&#8217;s a great article, however- for me to be, in scientific ways, to be satisfied that octopuses, [are to be declared as &#8220;very likely to be from another planet, or from outer space&#8221;, first I&#8217;d like to have NASA or other people 1] physically touch that planet, and then 2] present their physical samples from that planet, to trace the octopuses- from that planet to planet earth.</p>
<p> Cheers.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 20:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TR--Did you actually read the article about Octopuses I linked to?  

What it was proposing was the Panspermia idea--that things like comet tails or meteorites carrying viruses, bacteria, microorganisms—things like Tardigrades*, or even fertilized eggs--may have introduced these things into Earth, initiating life in  general, or contributing particular lines of life. 

Moreover, the idea, in particular, with regard to Octopuses was based on their unique genetic structures--which are far more complicated, dense, and different than their supposed ancestral organisms and other earthly creatures.  

Based, as well, on their ability to change color and even shape, and their demonstrated intelligence and problem solving ability**, and things like the fact that a majority of their neurons are not located in their heads, but are distributed among their individual tentacles.

*  See https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a11137/tardigrades-water-bears/

**  See OctolabTV at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNo_xQ7NvTr31naPAcjQWjg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TR&#8211;Did you actually read the article about Octopuses I linked to?  </p>
<p>What it was proposing was the Panspermia idea&#8211;that things like comet tails or meteorites carrying viruses, bacteria, microorganisms—things like Tardigrades*, or even fertilized eggs&#8211;may have introduced these things into Earth, initiating life in  general, or contributing particular lines of life. </p>
<p>Moreover, the idea, in particular, with regard to Octopuses was based on their unique genetic structures&#8211;which are far more complicated, dense, and different than their supposed ancestral organisms and other earthly creatures.  </p>
<p>Based, as well, on their ability to change color and even shape, and their demonstrated intelligence and problem solving ability**, and things like the fact that a majority of their neurons are not located in their heads, but are distributed among their individual tentacles.</p>
<p>*  See <a href="https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a11137/tardigrades-water-bears/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a11137/tardigrades-water-bears/</a></p>
<p>**  See OctolabTV at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNo_xQ7NvTr31naPAcjQWjg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNo_xQ7NvTr31naPAcjQWjg</a></p>
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		By: TR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is just my opinion, which is based on me being mad, at the moment:

  It really BUGS me that- this weeks trend on news sites is- putting a video that starts automatically...on every news article, whenever I click on a site&#039;s...news article.

 It feels like these sites are saying: &quot;we think you are too dumb, or too-lacking-in-attention, to read this whole article, unless- we put a shiny, new video on that article&quot;.

 That&#039;s very annoying. 

 Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just my opinion, which is based on me being mad, at the moment:</p>
<p>  It really BUGS me that- this weeks trend on news sites is- putting a video that starts automatically&#8230;on every news article, whenever I click on a site&#8217;s&#8230;news article.</p>
<p> It feels like these sites are saying: &#8220;we think you are too dumb, or too-lacking-in-attention, to read this whole article, unless- we put a shiny, new video on that article&#8221;.</p>
<p> That&#8217;s very annoying. </p>
<p> Wow.</p>
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		By: TR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SnowonPine said:

 &quot;Interesting speculation that Octopusus may have an extraterrestrial origin.&quot;

 Ha!
 Some, supposed scientist thinks that octopuses are space monsters?

 Now all of H.P. Lovecraft&#039;s, science-fiction stories make sense! Nope.

 What a load of nonsense  Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SnowonPine said:</p>
<p> &#8220;Interesting speculation that Octopusus may have an extraterrestrial origin.&#8221;</p>
<p> Ha!<br />
 Some, supposed scientist thinks that octopuses are space monsters?</p>
<p> Now all of H.P. Lovecraft&#8217;s, science-fiction stories make sense! Nope.</p>
<p> What a load of nonsense  Wow.</p>
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		By: Banned Lizard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Lizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stay tuned:

&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/murraymints82/status/1601885012168740864&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;When will we get the twitter files on covid? The info on the suspension of the many doctors and scientists? Who was involved? Suppression of what has turned out to be factual information.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Elon: &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601886758987104256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Oh it is coming bigtime …&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay tuned:</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/murraymints82/status/1601885012168740864" rel="nofollow ugc"><i>When will we get the twitter files on covid? The info on the suspension of the many doctors and scientists? Who was involved? Suppression of what has turned out to be factual information.</i></a></p>
<p>Elon: <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1601886758987104256" rel="nofollow ugc"><i>Oh it is coming bigtime …</i></a></p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...the Non-Binary Fashion Icon Luggage Klepto was finally canned by the DOE...&quot;

Quibble alert: Should (really...well, not really) read, &quot;...WERE finally canned...&quot;

(Which raises the all-important question if ALL OF THEM were actually fired...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the Non-Binary Fashion Icon Luggage Klepto was finally canned by the DOE&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Quibble alert: Should (really&#8230;well, not really) read, &#8220;&#8230;WERE finally canned&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>(Which raises the all-important question if ALL OF THEM were actually fired&#8230;)</p>
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		By: R2L		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 04:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kate @ 4:21:  agree.
In 1787 we thought the minimum age for President should be 35. Jefferson wrote the DOI at 33, with many years of legislative experience under his belt. Same for other founders/ framers. 

But given today&#039;s complexities and medical advances, I would prefer to see the age limit raised to 50 (or maybe even 55?). Then a bunch of senators who ran in 2012 and 2016 would have been considered too young and &quot;immature&quot; for the presidency, thus winnowing the candidate pool to potentially a more manageable and attractive group?  But better can be the enemy of good enough: reference VP Harris.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate @ 4:21:  agree.<br />
In 1787 we thought the minimum age for President should be 35. Jefferson wrote the DOI at 33, with many years of legislative experience under his belt. Same for other founders/ framers. </p>
<p>But given today&#8217;s complexities and medical advances, I would prefer to see the age limit raised to 50 (or maybe even 55?). Then a bunch of senators who ran in 2012 and 2016 would have been considered too young and &#8220;immature&#8221; for the presidency, thus winnowing the candidate pool to potentially a more manageable and attractive group?  But better can be the enemy of good enough: reference VP Harris.</p>
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		By: Snow on Pine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/12/open-thread-12-12-22/#comment-2657288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snow on Pine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 03:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find more and more merit in the idea that the universe was created and “fine tuned” for life, and is not the result of impersonal, mindless, random chance. 

One of the key arguments for creation is the number of physical constants which govern our Universe, with the smallest variance of any one of them making our Universe and life impossible.*

One of the most ubiquitous and most mysterious of these constants is the “fine structure constant” which equals roughly 1/137 and which appears as part of many other constants.**

So much of a problem is 1/137 that Jung and Pauli, among others, were both obsessed with trying to explain it&#039;s ubiquity and what that meant. 

*  See  https://www.thoughtco.com/fundamental-physical-constants-2699436

**  See  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant

See  also  https://www.amazon.com/137-Pauli-Pursuit-Scientific-Obsession/dp/0393338649]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find more and more merit in the idea that the universe was created and “fine tuned” for life, and is not the result of impersonal, mindless, random chance. </p>
<p>One of the key arguments for creation is the number of physical constants which govern our Universe, with the smallest variance of any one of them making our Universe and life impossible.*</p>
<p>One of the most ubiquitous and most mysterious of these constants is the “fine structure constant” which equals roughly 1/137 and which appears as part of many other constants.**</p>
<p>So much of a problem is 1/137 that Jung and Pauli, among others, were both obsessed with trying to explain it&#8217;s ubiquity and what that meant. </p>
<p>*  See  <a href="https://www.thoughtco.com/fundamental-physical-constants-2699436" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thoughtco.com/fundamental-physical-constants-2699436</a></p>
<p>**  See  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-structure_constant</a></p>
<p>See  also  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/137-Pauli-Pursuit-Scientific-Obsession/dp/0393338649" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.amazon.com/137-Pauli-Pursuit-Scientific-Obsession/dp/0393338649</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 03:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The [Livermore] guy who spoke about supercomputers and the modeling effort was very nice, but I got the impression that &lt;b&gt;he would say or do anything to get the next tranche of megabucks for the next installment of toys.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

TommyJay:

And that&#039;s the problem. 

Like Fox Mulder, I want to believe in nuclear fusion, but the big magnets, lasers and deuterium/tritium approach doesn&#039;t seem to be happenin&#039; anytime soon.

However, it is soaking up tons of funding, which could be going -- as physicsguy points out -- to alternate approaches like thorium reactors.

I don&#039;t know that thorium is the answer either, but I can&#039;t believe our options are limited to conventional fission or ITER megaproject fusion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The [Livermore] guy who spoke about supercomputers and the modeling effort was very nice, but I got the impression that <b>he would say or do anything to get the next tranche of megabucks for the next installment of toys.</b></i></p>
<p>TommyJay:</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the problem. </p>
<p>Like Fox Mulder, I want to believe in nuclear fusion, but the big magnets, lasers and deuterium/tritium approach doesn&#8217;t seem to be happenin&#8217; anytime soon.</p>
<p>However, it is soaking up tons of funding, which could be going &#8212; as physicsguy points out &#8212; to alternate approaches like thorium reactors.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that thorium is the answer either, but I can&#8217;t believe our options are limited to conventional fission or ITER megaproject fusion.</p>
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		By: PA+Cat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PA+Cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 01:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In other news, the Non-Binary Fashion Icon Luggage Klepto was finally canned by the DOE: &quot;&#039;Sam Brinton is no longer a DOE employee. By law, the Department of Energy cannot comment further on personnel matters,&#039; a spokesperson for the DOE told the Daily Beast on Monday.&quot;

https://nypost.com/2022/12/12/non-binary-biden-nuclear-official-sam-brinton-fired-after-multiple-luggage-theft-charges-reports/

He got too radioactive even for the DOE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, the Non-Binary Fashion Icon Luggage Klepto was finally canned by the DOE: &#8220;&#8216;Sam Brinton is no longer a DOE employee. By law, the Department of Energy cannot comment further on personnel matters,&#8217; a spokesperson for the DOE told the Daily Beast on Monday.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://nypost.com/2022/12/12/non-binary-biden-nuclear-official-sam-brinton-fired-after-multiple-luggage-theft-charges-reports/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nypost.com/2022/12/12/non-binary-biden-nuclear-official-sam-brinton-fired-after-multiple-luggage-theft-charges-reports/</a></p>
<p>He got too radioactive even for the DOE.</p>
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