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	Comments on: Jordan versus Schenck: you don&#8217;t see this kind of Perry Mason stuff very often	</title>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Does this meant that a progressive justice leaked the Dobbs opinion? That would explain the need to muddy up Alito.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ll wager the forensic technicians identified the leaker within a matter of weeks.  You haven&#039;t heard anything because (1) it was a common-and-garden staff member and dealt with by dismissal without public announcement or (2) it was an influential personage or someone on the patronage of an influential personage, and was dealt with through intramural deal-making.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does this meant that a progressive justice leaked the Dobbs opinion? That would explain the need to muddy up Alito.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll wager the forensic technicians identified the leaker within a matter of weeks.  You haven&#8217;t heard anything because (1) it was a common-and-garden staff member and dealt with by dismissal without public announcement or (2) it was an influential personage or someone on the patronage of an influential personage, and was dealt with through intramural deal-making.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Cornhead &#062; &quot;It was an obvious lie&quot;

That was the first thing that struck me about the Schenck case.
Jordan had a tape and a transcript - IIRC Court proceedings are public records.
Even if not something the general public can obtain, they are available without too much difficulty to a lot of lawyers and judges.
Same thing in your example.
Did these people think that no one would ever look at what actually happened?

Obviously, up to now, no one was interested enough in Schenck&#039;s lies to check them, in which case my second question is, why the lack of curiosity on the part of people who have no reason to support the Schencks&#039; version of events?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Cornhead &gt; &#8220;It was an obvious lie&#8221;</p>
<p>That was the first thing that struck me about the Schenck case.<br />
Jordan had a tape and a transcript &#8211; IIRC Court proceedings are public records.<br />
Even if not something the general public can obtain, they are available without too much difficulty to a lot of lawyers and judges.<br />
Same thing in your example.<br />
Did these people think that no one would ever look at what actually happened?</p>
<p>Obviously, up to now, no one was interested enough in Schenck&#8217;s lies to check them, in which case my second question is, why the lack of curiosity on the part of people who have no reason to support the Schencks&#8217; version of events?</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Bauxite &#062; &quot;If a progressive justice is about to be outed as the Dobbs leaker, this accusation would give progressives the opportunity to claim that Alito did it first.&quot;

Excellent observation.
We know the Democrat&#039;s usual MO is to try to pre-empt negative news about their side with a &quot;what-about-the-Republicans&quot; justification.
Much of the time, they are able to find something that can be spun the way they want, even though their interpretation is not really true.
But they will always point to &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; event that justifies their claims, even if they have to invent one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bauxite &gt; &#8220;If a progressive justice is about to be outed as the Dobbs leaker, this accusation would give progressives the opportunity to claim that Alito did it first.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent observation.<br />
We know the Democrat&#8217;s usual MO is to try to pre-empt negative news about their side with a &#8220;what-about-the-Republicans&#8221; justification.<br />
Much of the time, they are able to find something that can be spun the way they want, even though their interpretation is not really true.<br />
But they will always point to <em>some</em> event that justifies their claims, even if they have to invent one.</p>
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		By: Bauxite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bauxite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The most interesting part of this episode to me is a question.  Does this meant that a progressive justice leaked the Dobbs opinion?  That would explain the need to muddy up Alito.

If a progressive justice is about to be outed as the Dobbs leaker, this accusation would give progressives the opportunity to claim that Alito did it first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most interesting part of this episode to me is a question.  Does this meant that a progressive justice leaked the Dobbs opinion?  That would explain the need to muddy up Alito.</p>
<p>If a progressive justice is about to be outed as the Dobbs leaker, this accusation would give progressives the opportunity to claim that Alito did it first.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 02:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul.

Yup. Apple’s lawyers tried to rehab the witness. Hopeless.

Plaintiff’s verdict.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul.</p>
<p>Yup. Apple’s lawyers tried to rehab the witness. Hopeless.</p>
<p>Plaintiff’s verdict.</p>
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		By: Gregory Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 02:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In that clip Jordan sounds like Leonardo DiCaprio playing Howard Hughes in the Aviator.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that clip Jordan sounds like Leonardo DiCaprio playing Howard Hughes in the Aviator.</p>
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		By: sdferr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 01:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; The idea, of course, was to discredit Justice Alito.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My sense (admittedly incomplete) is that the underlying charge against Justice Alito is that he leaked his own draft of the Dobbs decision? Is this not correct? 

How is it that the leak itself has not been settled as yet? 

And how -- supposing the high improbability Justice Alito was the leaker -- &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; can the charge against him be brought without direct and irrefutable proof in hand? 

Where is the Court in all this? Does the Court stand by in silence as its member Justice is thus slandered by implication? What the living hell is going on here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> The idea, of course, was to discredit Justice Alito.</p></blockquote>
<p>My sense (admittedly incomplete) is that the underlying charge against Justice Alito is that he leaked his own draft of the Dobbs decision? Is this not correct? </p>
<p>How is it that the leak itself has not been settled as yet? </p>
<p>And how &#8212; supposing the high improbability Justice Alito was the leaker &#8212; <i>how</i> can the charge against him be brought without direct and irrefutable proof in hand? </p>
<p>Where is the Court in all this? Does the Court stand by in silence as its member Justice is thus slandered by implication? What the living hell is going on here?</p>
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		By: Paul Nachman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Nachman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 00:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cornhead: &quot; ..the jury&#039;s eyes just glazed over.&quot;

You mean that the plaintiff&#039;s engineer/lawyer had &quot;made the sale&quot; so thoroughly that the jurors no longer needed to pay much attention?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornhead: &#8221; ..the jury&#8217;s eyes just glazed over.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean that the plaintiff&#8217;s engineer/lawyer had &#8220;made the sale&#8221; so thoroughly that the jurors no longer needed to pay much attention?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 00:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did not know that Jordan had some legal training. He got a degree; apparently did not practice, but the training shows.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not know that Jordan had some legal training. He got a degree; apparently did not practice, but the training shows.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2022 00:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jordan was a star NCAA wrestler. Wrestling is a very tough sport. To be good, you have to be very tough both mentally and physically.  Jordan exemplifies those characteristics. He competes and he competes to win.  Glad he&#039;s a Republican.
https://nwhof.org/national-wrestling-hall-of-fame/bio/2390]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan was a star NCAA wrestler. Wrestling is a very tough sport. To be good, you have to be very tough both mentally and physically.  Jordan exemplifies those characteristics. He competes and he competes to win.  Glad he&#8217;s a Republican.<br />
<a href="https://nwhof.org/national-wrestling-hall-of-fame/bio/2390" rel="nofollow ugc">https://nwhof.org/national-wrestling-hall-of-fame/bio/2390</a></p>
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