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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656819</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 08:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Babylon Bee on the movie, because it was posted on Wednesday.
Is this some kind of spooky &quot;action at a distance&quot; collaboration?

https://babylonbee.com/news/james-cameron-releases-testosterone-free-cut-of-t2-where-arnold-schwarzenegger-is-replaced-by-kip-from-napoleon-dynamite

&quot;At publishing time, James Cameron announced that he would be releasing testosterone-free cuts of all his other movies too — starting with Titanic since he didn&#039;t need to make any changes to that one.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Babylon Bee on the movie, because it was posted on Wednesday.<br />
Is this some kind of spooky &#8220;action at a distance&#8221; collaboration?</p>
<p><a href="https://babylonbee.com/news/james-cameron-releases-testosterone-free-cut-of-t2-where-arnold-schwarzenegger-is-replaced-by-kip-from-napoleon-dynamite" rel="nofollow ugc">https://babylonbee.com/news/james-cameron-releases-testosterone-free-cut-of-t2-where-arnold-schwarzenegger-is-replaced-by-kip-from-napoleon-dynamite</a></p>
<p>&#8220;At publishing time, James Cameron announced that he would be releasing testosterone-free cuts of all his other movies too — starting with Titanic since he didn&#8217;t need to make any changes to that one.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 07:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Rufus - I was reading comments on this PJM post and &quot;found you&quot; in the comments. 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/12/08/karine-jean-pierre-storms-out-of-a-white-house-briefing-in-a-huff-n1652100#comment-6061198510
&quot;You can leave in a taxi. If you can&#039;t get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that&#039;s too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff&quot;. - Rufus T. Firefly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rufus &#8211; I was reading comments on this PJM post and &#8220;found you&#8221; in the comments. </p>
<p><a href="https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/12/08/karine-jean-pierre-storms-out-of-a-white-house-briefing-in-a-huff-n1652100#comment-6061198510" rel="nofollow ugc">https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/12/08/karine-jean-pierre-storms-out-of-a-white-house-briefing-in-a-huff-n1652100#comment-6061198510</a><br />
&#8220;You can leave in a taxi. If you can&#8217;t get a taxi, you can leave in a huff. If that&#8217;s too soon, you can leave in a minute and a huff&#8221;. &#8211; Rufus T. Firefly</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656813</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 06:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Both Titanic (1953), and A Night To Remember were very enjoyable movies, far superior to the Cameron movie.  Plus A Night To Remember had David McCallium as Radio Operator Harold Bride!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Titanic (1953), and A Night To Remember were very enjoyable movies, far superior to the Cameron movie.  Plus A Night To Remember had David McCallium as Radio Operator Harold Bride!</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 06:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ huxley - it&#039;s rather frightening that the Democrats are enabling this drug disaster at every step, from policies that facilitate the import of the drugs (even if that&#039;s not the purpose of their immigration and foreign affairs agendas, it is the result), through damaging in multitudes of ways the mental health of children, teens, and adults (which makes them more susceptible to addictions of all kinds), to the extreme of paying for the maintenance of drug users (including providing them with free paraphernalia, safe spaces to dope, and squatting rights on public streets).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ huxley &#8211; it&#8217;s rather frightening that the Democrats are enabling this drug disaster at every step, from policies that facilitate the import of the drugs (even if that&#8217;s not the purpose of their immigration and foreign affairs agendas, it is the result), through damaging in multitudes of ways the mental health of children, teens, and adults (which makes them more susceptible to addictions of all kinds), to the extreme of paying for the maintenance of drug users (including providing them with free paraphernalia, safe spaces to dope, and squatting rights on public streets).</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 05:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t quite understand how things are so often radically bad these days. I realize it&#039;s a tough ol&#039; world out there, but it seems like it&#039;s gotten worse.

Here&#039;s one candidate contributing explanation. The drug market has shifted to cheap, ultra-potent, non-organic, always-synthesizable forms of opioids and amphetamines, i.e. fentanyl and P2P meth. 

So users now die or go brain-damaged much more quickly than in the past.
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&lt;i&gt;Both of them are intensely addictive, and both of them do a masterful job of what every drug of abuse has always done, and that is to hijack our instinct for self-preservation. These two drugs come in such enormous quantities and have such staggering potency that they do the job far more masterfully than drugs have done it before. So you have methamphetamine that is driving people to homelessness, and becoming incoherent and irrational and delusional and paranoid.

Fentanyl is highly, highly addictive, and it’s basically ridding our country of heroin. There’s very little heroin on the streets of America anymore, which is an amazing thing to say. Fentanyl has essentially out-competed it. Both of those drugs, together and alone, make it so that people will literally refuse treatment, will literally refuse housing even when they’re living in tent encampments, even when they’re living in feces, in lethal temperatures, beaten, pimped out, because they do such a masterful job in potency and in supply of keeping, of thwarting that instinct to self-preservation.

--&quot;How Frighteningly Strong Meth Has Supercharged Homelessness&quot;
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-frighteningly-strong-meth-has-supercharged-homelessness/ar-AA14YlBr&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand how things are so often radically bad these days. I realize it&#8217;s a tough ol&#8217; world out there, but it seems like it&#8217;s gotten worse.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one candidate contributing explanation. The drug market has shifted to cheap, ultra-potent, non-organic, always-synthesizable forms of opioids and amphetamines, i.e. fentanyl and P2P meth. </p>
<p>So users now die or go brain-damaged much more quickly than in the past.<br />
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<p><i>Both of them are intensely addictive, and both of them do a masterful job of what every drug of abuse has always done, and that is to hijack our instinct for self-preservation. These two drugs come in such enormous quantities and have such staggering potency that they do the job far more masterfully than drugs have done it before. So you have methamphetamine that is driving people to homelessness, and becoming incoherent and irrational and delusional and paranoid.</p>
<p>Fentanyl is highly, highly addictive, and it’s basically ridding our country of heroin. There’s very little heroin on the streets of America anymore, which is an amazing thing to say. Fentanyl has essentially out-competed it. Both of those drugs, together and alone, make it so that people will literally refuse treatment, will literally refuse housing even when they’re living in tent encampments, even when they’re living in feces, in lethal temperatures, beaten, pimped out, because they do such a masterful job in potency and in supply of keeping, of thwarting that instinct to self-preservation.</p>
<p>&#8211;&#8220;How Frighteningly Strong Meth Has Supercharged Homelessness&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-frighteningly-strong-meth-has-supercharged-homelessness/ar-AA14YlBr" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/how-frighteningly-strong-meth-has-supercharged-homelessness/ar-AA14YlBr</a></i></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656799</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 01:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I hated, hated, the Cameron Titanic movie. There was so much real, actual drama in that event none had to be created. Yet he created a stupid, false narrative about men behaving badly and classism.&lt;/i&gt;

Rufus T. Firefly:

Many people disliked Cameron&#039;s &quot;Titanic.&quot; Including neo, as I recall. That&#039;s OK.

I can understand  your point about &quot;men behaving badly.&quot; Although in the larger measure, the film included Leonard DiCaprio, a man, behaving magnificently and changing Kate Winslet&#039;s life irrevocably.

I saw &quot;Titanic&quot; not long after I started attending Tony Robbins events. DiCaprio&#039;s interaction, while Winslet is contemplating suicide by leaping overboard, was a pure Tony-style intervention.

I was not surprised. However one assesses Tony&#039;s merits, he is a behind-the-scenes influencer, directly and indirectly, on many in Hollywood.

There is always a political context, and for James Cameron that is a leftist context, but the appeal IMO of &quot;Titanic,&quot; beyond the effects, is the story of personal transformation.

When I saw &quot;Titanic,&quot; it hit my Tony buttons hard. I practically rushed out of the theater to live the life I was given.
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&lt;i&gt;To making it count.

--Leonard DiCaprio&#039;s/Jack Dawon&#039;s toast in &quot;Titanic&quot;&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hated, hated, the Cameron Titanic movie. There was so much real, actual drama in that event none had to be created. Yet he created a stupid, false narrative about men behaving badly and classism.</i></p>
<p>Rufus T. Firefly:</p>
<p>Many people disliked Cameron&#8217;s &#8220;Titanic.&#8221; Including neo, as I recall. That&#8217;s OK.</p>
<p>I can understand  your point about &#8220;men behaving badly.&#8221; Although in the larger measure, the film included Leonard DiCaprio, a man, behaving magnificently and changing Kate Winslet&#8217;s life irrevocably.</p>
<p>I saw &#8220;Titanic&#8221; not long after I started attending Tony Robbins events. DiCaprio&#8217;s interaction, while Winslet is contemplating suicide by leaping overboard, was a pure Tony-style intervention.</p>
<p>I was not surprised. However one assesses Tony&#8217;s merits, he is a behind-the-scenes influencer, directly and indirectly, on many in Hollywood.</p>
<p>There is always a political context, and for James Cameron that is a leftist context, but the appeal IMO of &#8220;Titanic,&#8221; beyond the effects, is the story of personal transformation.</p>
<p>When I saw &#8220;Titanic,&#8221; it hit my Tony buttons hard. I practically rushed out of the theater to live the life I was given.<br />
______________________</p>
<p><i>To making it count.</p>
<p>&#8211;Leonard DiCaprio&#8217;s/Jack Dawon&#8217;s toast in &#8220;Titanic&#8221;</i></p>
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		By: Boobah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boobah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 19:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@miguel cervantes

Re: Alberta Sovereignty Act

That article is profoundly useless.  Unless one already knows what the Act is; even if I blindly assumed its purpose/result was in the name (an unimaginably naive move in this day and age) that still wouldn&#039;t tell me much.  It&#039;s expressing the province&#039;s sovereignty how?  And to what practical purpose?

On reading Wikipedia&#039;s summary of the bill (the article there does not have a copy of the bill itself; on the other hand, the article still has copy that refers to it as a &#039;proposed&#039; law) it&#039;s effectively Alberta giving itself the ability to ignore Canadian Federal law on a case-by-case basis, for two years at a time.  And demanding the same of any governmental entity (using a fairly broad definition) operating within Alberta. 

It claims it&#039;s only for &#039;unconstitutional laws or those which harm Alberta&#039; but that&#039;s a big enough carve out you could drive pretty much anything you like through it.  It&#039;s also entirely unclear that it has any practical effect; activating the Act seems pretty much the same as passing a law, although I may be missing something through ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@miguel cervantes</p>
<p>Re: Alberta Sovereignty Act</p>
<p>That article is profoundly useless.  Unless one already knows what the Act is; even if I blindly assumed its purpose/result was in the name (an unimaginably naive move in this day and age) that still wouldn&#8217;t tell me much.  It&#8217;s expressing the province&#8217;s sovereignty how?  And to what practical purpose?</p>
<p>On reading Wikipedia&#8217;s summary of the bill (the article there does not have a copy of the bill itself; on the other hand, the article still has copy that refers to it as a &#8216;proposed&#8217; law) it&#8217;s effectively Alberta giving itself the ability to ignore Canadian Federal law on a case-by-case basis, for two years at a time.  And demanding the same of any governmental entity (using a fairly broad definition) operating within Alberta. </p>
<p>It claims it&#8217;s only for &#8216;unconstitutional laws or those which harm Alberta&#8217; but that&#8217;s a big enough carve out you could drive pretty much anything you like through it.  It&#8217;s also entirely unclear that it has any practical effect; activating the Act seems pretty much the same as passing a law, although I may be missing something through ignorance.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 19:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As someone pointed out on Twitter, maybe Ms. Griner will sing the national anthem now -- especially when she thinks, if she does, about the US Marine still in a Russian prison.

And TR is right. Griner had been in Russia before. She knew that the drug was illegal. If you go abroad, you are covered by their laws, not ours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone pointed out on Twitter, maybe Ms. Griner will sing the national anthem now &#8212; especially when she thinks, if she does, about the US Marine still in a Russian prison.</p>
<p>And TR is right. Griner had been in Russia before. She knew that the drug was illegal. If you go abroad, you are covered by their laws, not ours.</p>
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		By: Nonapod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/08/open-thread-12-8-22/#comment-2656738</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nonapod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trading a violent arms dealer for a stoner giantess is a little better than the Bowe Bergdahl situtation was I guess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trading a violent arms dealer for a stoner giantess is a little better than the Bowe Bergdahl situtation was I guess.</p>
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		By: Rufus T. Firefly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rufus T. Firefly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TommyJay,

I have not. I&#039;ve only heard of &quot;A Night to Remember*.&quot; Of course, my brothers and I created some mischief on a steamer in, &quot;A Night at the Opera.&quot;

*also unseen by Rufus T. Firefly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TommyJay,</p>
<p>I have not. I&#8217;ve only heard of &#8220;A Night to Remember*.&#8221; Of course, my brothers and I created some mischief on a steamer in, &#8220;A Night at the Opera.&#8221;</p>
<p>*also unseen by Rufus T. Firefly</p>
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