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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/12/05/trump-as-lear-raging-against-the-vast-left-wing-conspiracy/#comment-2656491</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 05:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MBunge:

He&#039;s gotten plenty of negative attention from the press - but most people weren&#039;t paying attention.  Including you, apparently.

One of the reasons it didn&#039;t get much traction is that he countered it effectively.  But of course if he ran for president in 2024 he&#039;d get tons more attention - that is obvious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MBunge:</p>
<p>He&#8217;s gotten plenty of negative attention from the press &#8211; but most people weren&#8217;t paying attention.  Including you, apparently.</p>
<p>One of the reasons it didn&#8217;t get much traction is that he countered it effectively.  But of course if he ran for president in 2024 he&#8217;d get tons more attention &#8211; that is obvious.</p>
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		By: MBunge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MBunge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 03:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;DeSantis has already experienced quite a bit of that and has stood up to it well.&quot;


No, he really hasn&#039;t.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3862

That&#039;s a Quinnipiac University poll that finds 36% of voters overall and 41% of Independent voters &quot;haven&#039;t heard enough&quot; about Ron DeSantis to even have an opinion about him.  I think that&#039;s a pretty good indication of how relatively little attention (positive or negative) DeSantis has gotten from the legacy media.

I think DeSantis might hold up fairly well when the guns really get turned on him but, Neo, you need to drop this delusion that he&#039;s experienced ANYTHING like what he&#039;ll get if he&#039;s the GOP nominee.

Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DeSantis has already experienced quite a bit of that and has stood up to it well.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, he really hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><a href="https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3862" rel="nofollow ugc">https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3862</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a Quinnipiac University poll that finds 36% of voters overall and 41% of Independent voters &#8220;haven&#8217;t heard enough&#8221; about Ron DeSantis to even have an opinion about him.  I think that&#8217;s a pretty good indication of how relatively little attention (positive or negative) DeSantis has gotten from the legacy media.</p>
<p>I think DeSantis might hold up fairly well when the guns really get turned on him but, Neo, you need to drop this delusion that he&#8217;s experienced ANYTHING like what he&#8217;ll get if he&#8217;s the GOP nominee.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Links and Comments &#124; Rockport Conservatives]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 02:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Trump as Lear, raging against the vast left-wing conspiracy and today’s follow up: Trump’s explanation [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Trump as Lear, raging against the vast left-wing conspiracy and today’s follow up: Trump’s explanation [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2022 02:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Deep State is so pervasive and so entrenched and long possessed of DC and their Fed apparatus, who else is completely outside their ring fencing D-fenced insiders to lead the defenestration of the Coup Teams than Trump?

So concludes the young Ian — at then end of the second #Twitter Files, live streaming group chat, assessing why the second doc drop is delayed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhO570nGf8

These group of young cyberhonchos are on the case — committed to reviewing the next tranche as it developed.

They ar committed to open society ideals and making it work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Deep State is so pervasive and so entrenched and long possessed of DC and their Fed apparatus, who else is completely outside their ring fencing D-fenced insiders to lead the defenestration of the Coup Teams than Trump?</p>
<p>So concludes the young Ian — at then end of the second #Twitter Files, live streaming group chat, assessing why the second doc drop is delayed.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhO570nGf8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRhO570nGf8</a></p>
<p>These group of young cyberhonchos are on the case — committed to reviewing the next tranche as it developed.</p>
<p>They ar committed to open society ideals and making it work.</p>
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		By: miguel cervantes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it fixes things like a taxidermist, or the one who spays animals, the government became a leviathan and now lords over every factor of life,

you think the state legislatures would have come up with a liz warren, or a richard blumenthal on their own, to be ecumenical,

same with the national security state, how well has it done to protect the lives and property of Americans, and how much has been unaccountable empire building, nsa cia fbi, there was something to yardleys complain about the black chamber, maybe truman&#039;s about the company and its foreign adventurism and i&#039;m sure someone might have had a point about hoover, fast forward 50 years and you have a clapper, a brennan, a wray, you can just shuffle the cards,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it fixes things like a taxidermist, or the one who spays animals, the government became a leviathan and now lords over every factor of life,</p>
<p>you think the state legislatures would have come up with a liz warren, or a richard blumenthal on their own, to be ecumenical,</p>
<p>same with the national security state, how well has it done to protect the lives and property of Americans, and how much has been unaccountable empire building, nsa cia fbi, there was something to yardleys complain about the black chamber, maybe truman&#8217;s about the company and its foreign adventurism and i&#8217;m sure someone might have had a point about hoover, fast forward 50 years and you have a clapper, a brennan, a wray, you can just shuffle the cards,</p>
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		By: Art Deco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Deco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 22:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Unfortunately, all this started with Teddy, a Republican. He gave in to the Progressive idea that things should be “fixed” by government. He created the first of the modern 3-letter Federal Bureaucracies. He built up the military (not that I disagree with it, but it is pertinent), and it was on his watch that the most seriously negative components of the Constitutional Amendments developed or occurred — The direct election of Senators and the Income Tax. Neither were completed during his term, but both initiated and gained steady ground.&lt;/i&gt;

1. Why do you have a government if it does not fix things?

2. No, the first of the regulatory commissions was the Interstate Commerce Commission, founded in 1887.

3. The agencies created during the Roosevelt Administration (instituted by Congress, not the President) were the ancestors of the Food and Drug Administration and the Food Safety and Inspection Service of the USDA.  These were responses to two social conditions: (1) the expansion of interstate traffic in foodstuffs and pharmaceuticals and (2) the increasingly esoteric content of what was sold to people to consume.

4. Whether  good or bad, the &lt;i&gt;constitutional amendments&lt;/i&gt; which provided for the income tax and the direct election of Senators were forwarded to the states for ratification after Roosevelt had left office (and not ratified by sufficient states until his successor had left office).

5. As late as 1929, the ratio of military expenditure to domestic product was 0.01.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Unfortunately, all this started with Teddy, a Republican. He gave in to the Progressive idea that things should be “fixed” by government. He created the first of the modern 3-letter Federal Bureaucracies. He built up the military (not that I disagree with it, but it is pertinent), and it was on his watch that the most seriously negative components of the Constitutional Amendments developed or occurred — The direct election of Senators and the Income Tax. Neither were completed during his term, but both initiated and gained steady ground.</i></p>
<p>1. Why do you have a government if it does not fix things?</p>
<p>2. No, the first of the regulatory commissions was the Interstate Commerce Commission, founded in 1887.</p>
<p>3. The agencies created during the Roosevelt Administration (instituted by Congress, not the President) were the ancestors of the Food and Drug Administration and the Food Safety and Inspection Service of the USDA.  These were responses to two social conditions: (1) the expansion of interstate traffic in foodstuffs and pharmaceuticals and (2) the increasingly esoteric content of what was sold to people to consume.</p>
<p>4. Whether  good or bad, the <i>constitutional amendments</i> which provided for the income tax and the direct election of Senators were forwarded to the states for ratification after Roosevelt had left office (and not ratified by sufficient states until his successor had left office).</p>
<p>5. As late as 1929, the ratio of military expenditure to domestic product was 0.01.</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 20:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;Since FDR we haven’t followed the Constitution (commerce clause thing, allowing a massive government takeover). And he also did blatant violations, like banning gold and putting Japanese Americans in camps via EO.&lt;/i&gt;

TBH, the reason why I classify Grover Cleveland as the most underrated PotUS, as well as the last Truly Great PotUS, is that he was, literally, the LAST PotUS who truly understood the Limits of Government.

Not a one since has demonstrated that, even the ones I do like and respect, such as Teddy, Coolidge, and Reagan. And yes, even Trump.

Unfortunately, all this started with Teddy, a Republican. He gave in to the Progressive idea that things should be &quot;fixed&quot; by government. He created the first of the modern 3-letter Federal Bureaucracies. He built up the military (not that I disagree with it, but it is pertinent), and it was on his watch that the most seriously negative components of the Constitutional Amendments developed or occurred -- The direct election of Senators and the Income Tax. Neither were completed during his term, but both initiated and gained steady ground.

Cleveland was Teddy&#039;s defacto predecessor (from the wiki):
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 In 1887, Cleveland issued his most well-known veto, that of the Texas Seed Bill. After a drought had ruined crops in several Texas counties, Congress appropriated $100,000 (equivalent to $3,015,926 in 2021) to purchase seed grain for farmers there. Cleveland vetoed the expenditure. In his veto message, he espoused a theory of limited government:

&lt;i&gt;I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people. The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;That is, really, the &lt;i&gt;last&lt;/i&gt; time a PotUS really showed that he understood the proper limits to government.&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>Since FDR we haven’t followed the Constitution (commerce clause thing, allowing a massive government takeover). And he also did blatant violations, like banning gold and putting Japanese Americans in camps via EO.</i></p>
<p>TBH, the reason why I classify Grover Cleveland as the most underrated PotUS, as well as the last Truly Great PotUS, is that he was, literally, the LAST PotUS who truly understood the Limits of Government.</p>
<p>Not a one since has demonstrated that, even the ones I do like and respect, such as Teddy, Coolidge, and Reagan. And yes, even Trump.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, all this started with Teddy, a Republican. He gave in to the Progressive idea that things should be &#8220;fixed&#8221; by government. He created the first of the modern 3-letter Federal Bureaucracies. He built up the military (not that I disagree with it, but it is pertinent), and it was on his watch that the most seriously negative components of the Constitutional Amendments developed or occurred &#8212; The direct election of Senators and the Income Tax. Neither were completed during his term, but both initiated and gained steady ground.</p>
<p>Cleveland was Teddy&#8217;s defacto predecessor (from the wiki):<br />
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 In 1887, Cleveland issued his most well-known veto, that of the Texas Seed Bill. After a drought had ruined crops in several Texas counties, Congress appropriated $100,000 (equivalent to $3,015,926 in 2021) to purchase seed grain for farmers there. Cleveland vetoed the expenditure. In his veto message, he espoused a theory of limited government:</p>
<p><i>I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people. The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow-citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.</i></p>
<p><b>That is, really, the <i>last</i> time a PotUS really showed that he understood the proper limits to government.</b></p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 20:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bauxite,

Kari Lake was one of the best candidates this election cycle. The Democrats were able to win with dead candidates, marginally functional candidates, and candidates unwilling to debate. 

We ain&#039;t turning this around with RINOs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bauxite,</p>
<p>Kari Lake was one of the best candidates this election cycle. The Democrats were able to win with dead candidates, marginally functional candidates, and candidates unwilling to debate. </p>
<p>We ain&#8217;t turning this around with RINOs.</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ObloodyHell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 20:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;In the current climate that will never happen to Biden, no matter what the offenses.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed, a clearly unfaked video of Biden sexually fondling a 6yo girl while bragging about all the times he sold secrets to China and all the deals he made with Ukraine and other countries at the USA&#039;s expense, and the left would vote for him over Jesus returned doing obvious miracles with an (R) after his entry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>In the current climate that will never happen to Biden, no matter what the offenses.</i></p>
<p>Indeed, a clearly unfaked video of Biden sexually fondling a 6yo girl while bragging about all the times he sold secrets to China and all the deals he made with Ukraine and other countries at the USA&#8217;s expense, and the left would vote for him over Jesus returned doing obvious miracles with an (R) after his entry.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubert:

DeSantis has already experienced quite a bit of that and has stood up to it well.  He&#039;s very smart and aware. You may not have noticed, but it&#039;s been really bad, including people discussing using lawfare to try him for kidnapping because of his shipping out the illegal immigrants to other states.  They may still try to do it.  

Also comparisons to Hitler, You know, the usual.

I don&#039;t know whether he will run.  But if he does, he knows what he faces and has decided to face it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubert:</p>
<p>DeSantis has already experienced quite a bit of that and has stood up to it well.  He&#8217;s very smart and aware. You may not have noticed, but it&#8217;s been really bad, including people discussing using lawfare to try him for kidnapping because of his shipping out the illegal immigrants to other states.  They may still try to do it.  </p>
<p>Also comparisons to Hitler, You know, the usual.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether he will run.  But if he does, he knows what he faces and has decided to face it.</p>
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