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		By: buddhaha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buddhaha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2022 16:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...who’ll mark whatever they’re told by the nice people who just brought them a ballot AND A TWENTY DOLLAR BILL.&quot;
FIFY ? To quote Insty, &quot;Embrace the healing power of AND.&quot; Cupidity AND Stupidity.

Early voting is a loser for the Rs, as Callahan says, but not just  because of the stupidity factor, but because it gives the D&#039;s plenty of time to generate ballots and a specific goal (just enough to win, but not be obvious).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;who’ll mark whatever they’re told by the nice people who just brought them a ballot AND A TWENTY DOLLAR BILL.&#8221;<br />
FIFY ? To quote Insty, &#8220;Embrace the healing power of AND.&#8221; Cupidity AND Stupidity.</p>
<p>Early voting is a loser for the Rs, as Callahan says, but not just  because of the stupidity factor, but because it gives the D&#8217;s plenty of time to generate ballots and a specific goal (just enough to win, but not be obvious).</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655517</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems like there is no justice they can steal our vote at will and we know the result they can mutilate institutionz like marriage with the eunuchs they allow in place with exceptions like portman who is on the way the ones who commit criminal malpractice like whitmer and hochul are unaccontable]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like there is no justice they can steal our vote at will and we know the result they can mutilate institutionz like marriage with the eunuchs they allow in place with exceptions like portman who is on the way the ones who commit criminal malpractice like whitmer and hochul are unaccontable</p>
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		By: om		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 19:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SomeDunce knows how to harvest clicks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SomeDunce knows how to harvest clicks.</p>
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		By: Miguel cervantes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655510</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miguel cervantes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 19:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At best they are working at cross purposes the law actual evidence hadnt mattered in legal cases since 2016 when they failed to steal michigan because they had serious chain of custody issues]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best they are working at cross purposes the law actual evidence hadnt mattered in legal cases since 2016 when they failed to steal michigan because they had serious chain of custody issues</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655508</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 19:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RaySoCa:

Sundance would do well to concentrate on some worthier cause than smearing Harmeet Dillon, who has made such good efforts on that and other topics.  Sundance, in my opinion, prefers to stir up dissension on the right, and has gotten a lot of traffic for just that.  

What he ignores - and what Dillon, who lives in the real world of action rather than the pundit world, does not ignore - is practical reality.  As I&#039;ve written many times, there is nothing to do about Arizona because material problems with machines that were enough to change election results and which did change election results are impossible to prove in court.  The only solution is a pound of cure.  For example, in Arizona, GOP voters should not concentrate on Election Day voting.

By the way, earlier today I read that Jay Valentine article.  It puzzled me.  He makes some extremely serious charges and purports to be able to prove them.  But there&#039;s no reference to ever having taken his assertions (and he&#039;s made similar ones in the past at American Thinker) to court.  Has he done so? If not, why not? If so, what was the outcome, and how did he try to prove them?  I see some other holes in his story - how is it that these ballots come back to the very people who are committing the fraud, for example - that I would like him to explain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RaySoCa:</p>
<p>Sundance would do well to concentrate on some worthier cause than smearing Harmeet Dillon, who has made such good efforts on that and other topics.  Sundance, in my opinion, prefers to stir up dissension on the right, and has gotten a lot of traffic for just that.  </p>
<p>What he ignores &#8211; and what Dillon, who lives in the real world of action rather than the pundit world, does not ignore &#8211; is practical reality.  As I&#8217;ve written many times, there is nothing to do about Arizona because material problems with machines that were enough to change election results and which did change election results are impossible to prove in court.  The only solution is a pound of cure.  For example, in Arizona, GOP voters should not concentrate on Election Day voting.</p>
<p>By the way, earlier today I read that Jay Valentine article.  It puzzled me.  He makes some extremely serious charges and purports to be able to prove them.  But there&#8217;s no reference to ever having taken his assertions (and he&#8217;s made similar ones in the past at American Thinker) to court.  Has he done so? If not, why not? If so, what was the outcome, and how did he try to prove them?  I see some other holes in his story &#8211; how is it that these ballots come back to the very people who are committing the fraud, for example &#8211; that I would like him to explain.</p>
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		By: Ray SoCa		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray SoCa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Az looks like officially stolen, sigh.

Rnc’s moving on.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/29/hired-by-the-rnc-harmeet-dhillon-teams-up-with-the-mitch-mcconnell-contracted-enforcer-who-destroyed-the-tea-party/

I note Harmeet Dillon was involved with the lawsuit that ended in fizzle / apology, where Trump supporters leaving a San Jose rally were assaulted. The iconic photo of a lady with egg on her face. 

And Jay Valentine has another great article on how voter rolls are massaged at American Thinker…

The Az steal was so blatant, yet it’s still allowed to succeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Az looks like officially stolen, sigh.</p>
<p>Rnc’s moving on.<br />
<a href="https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/29/hired-by-the-rnc-harmeet-dhillon-teams-up-with-the-mitch-mcconnell-contracted-enforcer-who-destroyed-the-tea-party/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/29/hired-by-the-rnc-harmeet-dhillon-teams-up-with-the-mitch-mcconnell-contracted-enforcer-who-destroyed-the-tea-party/</a></p>
<p>I note Harmeet Dillon was involved with the lawsuit that ended in fizzle / apology, where Trump supporters leaving a San Jose rally were assaulted. The iconic photo of a lady with egg on her face. </p>
<p>And Jay Valentine has another great article on how voter rolls are massaged at American Thinker…</p>
<p>The Az steal was so blatant, yet it’s still allowed to succeed.</p>
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		By: om		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[om]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 09:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Democrats in WA state did a lot of the voter enhancement when the vote by mail system was introduced; hundreds of voters living at the same PO box or Storage Unit complex.  That was 20+ years ago IIRC.

How do you establish residency or eligibility voter standards for a homeless &quot;community?&quot;  You must be  racist, fascist, democracy denier! (sarc)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats in WA state did a lot of the voter enhancement when the vote by mail system was introduced; hundreds of voters living at the same PO box or Storage Unit complex.  That was 20+ years ago IIRC.</p>
<p>How do you establish residency or eligibility voter standards for a homeless &#8220;community?&#8221;  You must be  racist, fascist, democracy denier! (sarc)</p>
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		By: I Callahan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/29/the-arizona-election-mess-continues/#comment-2655437</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Callahan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 06:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I can’t find the article offhand, but I recently read that a key factor in the Kemp and DeSantis blowout election wins was, in both cases, an effective early voting turnout operation. All Republican parties, everywhere, need to get with this program aggressively.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d sure love to read that article if you ever find it, because everything I&#039;ve read is that states with large amounts of early voting and ballot harvesting are the ones where Dems won; whereas the states with tighter election systems with zero ballot harvesting (like Florida and Ohio) is where the GOP was successful.

There is no way the GOP can match the ballot harvesting in places like homeless shelters and nursing homes.  Those are natural ignorant voters (I don&#039;t mean dumb), who&#039;ll mark whatever they&#039;re told by the nice people who just brought them a ballot.

Either the whole country tightens up the voting system, or we are a defacto banana republic from here out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can’t find the article offhand, but I recently read that a key factor in the Kemp and DeSantis blowout election wins was, in both cases, an effective early voting turnout operation. All Republican parties, everywhere, need to get with this program aggressively.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d sure love to read that article if you ever find it, because everything I&#8217;ve read is that states with large amounts of early voting and ballot harvesting are the ones where Dems won; whereas the states with tighter election systems with zero ballot harvesting (like Florida and Ohio) is where the GOP was successful.</p>
<p>There is no way the GOP can match the ballot harvesting in places like homeless shelters and nursing homes.  Those are natural ignorant voters (I don&#8217;t mean dumb), who&#8217;ll mark whatever they&#8217;re told by the nice people who just brought them a ballot.</p>
<p>Either the whole country tightens up the voting system, or we are a defacto banana republic from here out.</p>
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		By: Gerard vanderleun		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerard vanderleun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 01:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...the only remedy available is prevention because once an election is done &quot;

Not the *only* remedy... just, for now. But we&#039;ll get to the others by and by.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the only remedy available is prevention because once an election is done &#8221;</p>
<p>Not the *only* remedy&#8230; just, for now. But we&#8217;ll get to the others by and by.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2022 00:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo states, &lt;i&gt;&quot;Trust is not the point; suppression of dissent is the point, and those with power will exercise it to its full extent.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

The greater the suppression of dissent, the deeper and more widespread the mistrust. What percentage of Venezuelans actually trust the Maduro government? Though we are not there yet, when California&#039;s rolling blackouts spread across the nation, when electric car owners can&#039;t charge their cars to get to work, when food prices rise to unaffordable levels and children are forced to eat bugs... the democrat party will have lost its credibility with the liberal sheep. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Power is everything, and they intend to never lose it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Which ensures that they will lose it. The only question is will they hold on to power long enough to lose it through violence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo states, <i>&#8220;Trust is not the point; suppression of dissent is the point, and those with power will exercise it to its full extent.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>The greater the suppression of dissent, the deeper and more widespread the mistrust. What percentage of Venezuelans actually trust the Maduro government? Though we are not there yet, when California&#8217;s rolling blackouts spread across the nation, when electric car owners can&#8217;t charge their cars to get to work, when food prices rise to unaffordable levels and children are forced to eat bugs&#8230; the democrat party will have lost its credibility with the liberal sheep. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Power is everything, and they intend to never lose it.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Which ensures that they will lose it. The only question is will they hold on to power long enough to lose it through violence.</p>
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