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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/16/open-thread-11-16-22/#comment-2653623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AesopFan, we just replaced the retiring Richard Burr with an actual conservative, Ted Budd, so there&#039;s one. Tillis infuriates me regularly. We need to find a conservative who can beat him next time. He was challenged the last time, but found something so nasty in the guy&#039;s past that he managed to strangle the campaign. We voted for him in the general election because the Dem was much worse than Tillis; even then, Tillis only won because of the Dem&#039;s sex scandal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AesopFan, we just replaced the retiring Richard Burr with an actual conservative, Ted Budd, so there&#8217;s one. Tillis infuriates me regularly. We need to find a conservative who can beat him next time. He was challenged the last time, but found something so nasty in the guy&#8217;s past that he managed to strangle the campaign. We voted for him in the general election because the Dem was much worse than Tillis; even then, Tillis only won because of the Dem&#8217;s sex scandal.</p>
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		By: JohnTyler		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/16/open-thread-11-16-22/#comment-2653619</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 13:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe Trump got on the phone to other leaders of nations - bypassing the State Dept - because he knows those that populate the bureaucracy are useless, they are simply failures. 

They exist and strive to travel, stay in fancy hotels, hobnob with other useless bureaucrats of other nations, enjoy fancy meals, etc. , all the while accomplishing not one F&#039;n thing, other than earning credits towards their pensions. 

If 85% of all Federal agencies were abolished, no one would miss them. In fact, life would be a lot less complicated for everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Trump got on the phone to other leaders of nations &#8211; bypassing the State Dept &#8211; because he knows those that populate the bureaucracy are useless, they are simply failures. </p>
<p>They exist and strive to travel, stay in fancy hotels, hobnob with other useless bureaucrats of other nations, enjoy fancy meals, etc. , all the while accomplishing not one F&#8217;n thing, other than earning credits towards their pensions. </p>
<p>If 85% of all Federal agencies were abolished, no one would miss them. In fact, life would be a lot less complicated for everyone.</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/16/open-thread-11-16-22/#comment-2653597</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forgot this paragraph from the Breitbart post:
&quot;The advancement of RFMA is yet another instance of Senate Republicans providing the votes needed to pass overreaching Democrat legislation, which includes broad-sweeping bills concerning gun control and infrastructure.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot this paragraph from the Breitbart post:<br />
&#8220;The advancement of RFMA is yet another instance of Senate Republicans providing the votes needed to pass overreaching Democrat legislation, which includes broad-sweeping bills concerning gun control and infrastructure.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AesopFan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t seem to be unified on the definition of the Uniparty, so can we just go back to labeling some GOP members of the Congress &quot;Republican In Name Only&quot;?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/16/112-senate-republicans-vote-with-democrats-for-far-left-respect-for-marriage-act/

The respect is for LGBTQ+ marriages, in case you were wondering.

&quot;The 12 Republicans who voted for the bill include Sens. Roy Blunt (R-MO), Richard Burr (R-NC), Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Susan Collins (R-ME), Joni Ernst (R-IA), Cynthia Lummis (R-WY), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Rob Portman (R-OH), Mitt Romney (R-UT), Dan Sullivan (R-AK), Thom Tillis (R-NC), and Todd Young (R-IN).&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t seem to be unified on the definition of the Uniparty, so can we just go back to labeling some GOP members of the Congress &#8220;Republican In Name Only&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/16/112-senate-republicans-vote-with-democrats-for-far-left-respect-for-marriage-act/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/16/112-senate-republicans-vote-with-democrats-for-far-left-respect-for-marriage-act/</a></p>
<p>The respect is for LGBTQ+ marriages, in case you were wondering.</p>
<p>&#8220;The 12 Republicans who voted for the bill include Sens. Roy Blunt (R-MO), Richard Burr (R-NC), Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV), Susan Collins (R-ME), Joni Ernst (R-IA), Cynthia Lummis (R-WY), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Rob Portman (R-OH), Mitt Romney (R-UT), Dan Sullivan (R-AK), Thom Tillis (R-NC), and Todd Young (R-IN).&#8221;</p>
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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 07:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will point out that this look has been a standard trope for &quot;Mad Scientists&quot; for decades. 

Think of the old Frankenstein movie, as well as Gene Wilder shouting, &quot;It&#039;s ALIVE!! IT&#039;S ALIVE!!!&quot; in Young Frankenstein.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will point out that this look has been a standard trope for &#8220;Mad Scientists&#8221; for decades. </p>
<p>Think of the old Frankenstein movie, as well as Gene Wilder shouting, &#8220;It&#8217;s ALIVE!! IT&#8217;S ALIVE!!!&#8221; in Young Frankenstein.</p>
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		By: neo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 04:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boobah:

I don&#039;t think the way I use it is novel at all.  I&#039;ve seen person after person, sometimes here but especially elsewhere, writing that there&#039;s no difference between the Republicans and Democrats because they are a UNIPARTY.  One party, the same party under the skin, with the same aims, Republicans in cahoots with Democrats, Republicans not wanting to win, etc. etc.. It is almost always said about the party, not about individuals.  Yes, some people criticize McConnell - I have certainly criticized him. But that is criticism for him as an individual, or for people like Graham or certain others labeled RINOs or members of the GOPe as opposed to the rest of the GOP, the more conservative wing like Cruz.  

A uniparty is a party, not a section of a party, and the uniparty is DemocratsRepublicans combined into one.  Very often people who call it a uniparty say that they refuse to vote for that reason.

I don&#039;t know what you&#039;ve been reading, but that&#039;s what I&#039;ve been reading for close to two decades.

Nor do I think someone like McConnell is exactly like a Democrat, in league with Democrats entirely.  He is into money and influence and his own power, and isn&#039;t especially conservative, but he&#039;s not a leftist. Not even he is a member of a uniparty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boobah:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the way I use it is novel at all.  I&#8217;ve seen person after person, sometimes here but especially elsewhere, writing that there&#8217;s no difference between the Republicans and Democrats because they are a UNIPARTY.  One party, the same party under the skin, with the same aims, Republicans in cahoots with Democrats, Republicans not wanting to win, etc. etc.. It is almost always said about the party, not about individuals.  Yes, some people criticize McConnell &#8211; I have certainly criticized him. But that is criticism for him as an individual, or for people like Graham or certain others labeled RINOs or members of the GOPe as opposed to the rest of the GOP, the more conservative wing like Cruz.  </p>
<p>A uniparty is a party, not a section of a party, and the uniparty is DemocratsRepublicans combined into one.  Very often people who call it a uniparty say that they refuse to vote for that reason.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve been reading, but that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been reading for close to two decades.</p>
<p>Nor do I think someone like McConnell is exactly like a Democrat, in league with Democrats entirely.  He is into money and influence and his own power, and isn&#8217;t especially conservative, but he&#8217;s not a leftist. Not even he is a member of a uniparty.</p>
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		By: Boobah		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 02:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo:  You use the term &lt;i&gt;uniparty&lt;/i&gt; in a novel way.  The usual definition are those parts of both the Democrats and Republicans whose only true allegiance is to the DC Swamp, and play act for the base to get votes and donations.

So it&#039;s very strange to complain that someone is talking about McConnell and his followers as uniparty... only to explain that no, really, they&#039;re uniparty.

Or maybe I&#039;m the one who&#039;s always misunderstood the term, and I&#039;ve consequently misread the folks using it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo:  You use the term <i>uniparty</i> in a novel way.  The usual definition are those parts of both the Democrats and Republicans whose only true allegiance is to the DC Swamp, and play act for the base to get votes and donations.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s very strange to complain that someone is talking about McConnell and his followers as uniparty&#8230; only to explain that no, really, they&#8217;re uniparty.</p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;m the one who&#8217;s always misunderstood the term, and I&#8217;ve consequently misread the folks using it.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2022/11/16/open-thread-11-16-22/#comment-2653557</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just started &quot;Metropolis&quot; a few nights ago. How I miss the old B&#038;W films. 

I was derailed from &quot;Metropolis&quot; by watching &quot;The Train&quot; (1964) directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Burt Lancaster. It&#039;s the end of WW II. The Nazis are about to be driven out of Paris. so they decide to ship modern masterpiece paintings out of France to Germany ... except our plucky Resistance heroes are determined to keep the art train in France.
&#039;
Great story and I was sure noticing Lancaster&#039;s athletic ability to scale walls, climb buildings and run like hell as necessary.

But what really stood out was the striking B&#038;W cinematography. Those amazing stark compositions, the big foreground-background faces, the beads of sweat detail. 

&quot;The Train&quot; is one of the last great B&#038;W films, aside from &quot;Young Frankenstein,&quot; which BTW drew liberally from &quot;Metropolis&quot; and the Frankenstein movies (also influenced by &quot;Metropolis.&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started &#8220;Metropolis&#8221; a few nights ago. How I miss the old B&amp;W films. </p>
<p>I was derailed from &#8220;Metropolis&#8221; by watching &#8220;The Train&#8221; (1964) directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Burt Lancaster. It&#8217;s the end of WW II. The Nazis are about to be driven out of Paris. so they decide to ship modern masterpiece paintings out of France to Germany &#8230; except our plucky Resistance heroes are determined to keep the art train in France.<br />
&#8216;<br />
Great story and I was sure noticing Lancaster&#8217;s athletic ability to scale walls, climb buildings and run like hell as necessary.</p>
<p>But what really stood out was the striking B&amp;W cinematography. Those amazing stark compositions, the big foreground-background faces, the beads of sweat detail. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Train&#8221; is one of the last great B&amp;W films, aside from &#8220;Young Frankenstein,&#8221; which BTW drew liberally from &#8220;Metropolis&#8221; and the Frankenstein movies (also influenced by &#8220;Metropolis.&#8221;)</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 01:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a site which provides a cite for the Sarfatti-Doc Brown claim:
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&lt;i&gt;Jack was the basis of the memorable time-travelling Dr. Emmett Brown in the Back to the Future trilogy. He is also working on the connection of the warp drive physics of flying saucers to the new cosmology observations of anti-gravity “dark energy”

https://www.altpropulsion.com/people/jack-sarfatti/&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a site which provides a cite for the Sarfatti-Doc Brown claim:<br />
_________________________</p>
<p><i>Jack was the basis of the memorable time-travelling Dr. Emmett Brown in the Back to the Future trilogy. He is also working on the connection of the warp drive physics of flying saucers to the new cosmology observations of anti-gravity “dark energy”</p>
<p><a href="https://www.altpropulsion.com/people/jack-sarfatti/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.altpropulsion.com/people/jack-sarfatti/</a></i></p>
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		By: Brian E		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 01:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trump for Secretary of State

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...Sondland (Ambassador to the EU) broke character by saying something nice about the man who he plotted to overthrow as president.

The former ambassador said, &quot;Whether you like or don’t like President Trump, he fundamentally changed the way that diplomacy is conducted at the presidential level. He cut out a lot of the process.

&quot;He would pick up the phone all the time and call a foreign leader and just riff with them the way you &#039;What are you doing? What’s going on? What can we work on together? What can I do for you? And, more importantly, what are you going to do for us?&#039;

&quot;It really upset the bureaucracy because they didn’t have a role in that — &#039;The president called who? Said what? Why weren’t we involved? Why didn’t we do a briefing on that?&#039; He broke all of the norms, and now I think you’re going to see presidents on both sides of the aisle taking a page from that playbook.&quot;&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

How could President Trump just call these folks? Because he knew a lot of them before he became president.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/11/trump-changed-diplomacy-for-better.html#more]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trump for Secretary of State</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;Sondland (Ambassador to the EU) broke character by saying something nice about the man who he plotted to overthrow as president.</p>
<p>The former ambassador said, &#8220;Whether you like or don’t like President Trump, he fundamentally changed the way that diplomacy is conducted at the presidential level. He cut out a lot of the process.</p>
<p>&#8220;He would pick up the phone all the time and call a foreign leader and just riff with them the way you &#8216;What are you doing? What’s going on? What can we work on together? What can I do for you? And, more importantly, what are you going to do for us?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;It really upset the bureaucracy because they didn’t have a role in that — &#8216;The president called who? Said what? Why weren’t we involved? Why didn’t we do a briefing on that?&#8217; He broke all of the norms, and now I think you’re going to see presidents on both sides of the aisle taking a page from that playbook.&#8221;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How could President Trump just call these folks? Because he knew a lot of them before he became president.</p>
<p><a href="https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/11/trump-changed-diplomacy-for-better.html#more" rel="nofollow ugc">https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/11/trump-changed-diplomacy-for-better.html#more</a></p>
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